Two Tales on Unemployment and Immigration, Two Entirely Different Experiences, with Kjell van Zoen and Zhou Fang

Content warning: suicide and suicide ideation. Kjell & Zhou both went through unemployment at the same time, but got different outcomes; Kjell & Zhou also both went through immigration in different years, their experiences are also very different. In this real, raw conversation between two good friends, Kjell & Zhou hope to bring light, attention, and hopefully action to institutionalized racism. The conversation contains discussion on depression, PTSD, and suicide ideation and action. Please be advised and take care of yourself while listening. The National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline is 988.