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Nov 20, 2024 1 hr 47 min

Two tickets for Departure, please

from Changelog Interviews

Today we're joined by a dynamic duo, Helena Zhang & Tobias Fried, who team up on all sorts of digital passion projects. This includes the wildly popular Phosphor Icons plus their latest joint, Departure Mono, a monospaced pixel font with a lo-fi technical vibe... that both Adam & Jerod are pretty much in love with. We discuss their tastes & inspirations, how they collab, making money on passion projects like these, velvet ropes & so much more.

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  1. 0:00 This week on The Changelog
  2. 1:24 Sponsor: Fly.io
  3. 3:53 Start the show!
  4. 5:00 A perfect website
  5. 6:12 Monospace magic
  6. 8:56 Adam's font journey
  7. 11:16 Gushing on the site
  8. 12:13 Website deep cuts
  9. 14:59 The sincerest form of...
  10. 15:53 Retrofuturism
  11. 17:45 Jerod's font journey
  12. 19:57 Monospace font nerdery
  13. 24:02 Font regression testing
  14. 26:57 Iosevka!
  15. 28:13 GNU Unifont!
  16. 29:38 Pixel font nerdery
  17. 31:29 Adam reads the tea leaves
  18. 34:08 Severance vibes
  19. 35:13 Movie trailers aside
  20. 36:19 Severance no mono?!
  21. 37:13 Public library terminals
  22. 37:47 More website details
  23. 41:14 Adam pokes Jerod
  24. 42:04 Building the flight deck
  25. 42:49 Sponsor: Timescale
  26. 45:02 Sponsor: Wix Studio
  27. 45:56 Open source?
  28. 46:47 Donate buttons
  29. 49:11 Money can ruin passion projects
  30. 50:58 Font & icon maintenance costs
  31. 54:52 Gushing on Phosphor's site
  32. 58:28 Still using IBM Plex Mono?
  33. 1:00:01 Making money
  34. 1:01:59 Font Awesome
  35. 1:04:15 People still buy/sell fonts?
  36. 1:05:52 Adam stares down imposter syndrome
  37. 1:07:08 Freedom in giving
  38. 1:08:04 Sponsor: WorkOS
  39. 1:10:53 Intangible benefits
  40. 1:13:36 Client services
  41. 1:17:30 Client work challenges
  42. 1:18:56 No gap in their flow
  43. 1:22:00 The velvet rope
  44. 1:23:24 One more idea
  45. 1:25:16 Toby on open source compensation
  46. 1:32:33 Patreon vs Buy Me a Coffee
  47. 1:36:14 Iconography streamers
  48. 1:40:30 Obligatory AI chapter
  49. 1:43:55 Support your human creators
  50. 1:45:15 Closing thoughts and stuff

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