How's that feel Tyler is it called enough? If it's too cold I can eat you a little bit. Oh, it's a buddy shoot. Oh man I bet.
Buddy shoot. Sorry dude. So my machine is temperamental. I'll turn it off and it goes.
We still don't have a fan. Wait hold on. There we go. It's not working.
It's a little bit. It's not. I mean I can see you better. Look at that.
It's working. Hey dude that was sick. Yeah really good. That's screaming.
Yeah. Yeah really solid note. I like you. I like you too.
Thanks for having me. Is that the same word you sing every single time? Yeah. Yeah.
I was gonna say what? What? I'll turn it off. It doesn't stop.
It's the only smoke machine that takes on course. I press off. Squirting at you. In just a few moments ladies and gentlemen you'll see our guests.
But right now Tyler Posey through the mist. Welcome back Brandon. Nice to meet you. Thank you so much.
You will meet them. Right now you don't. It's always got the worst. Yeah I think so.
I'm like screaming over there. Yeah. It's like a different world. People have seen my face enough.
But you know how they sing the mustache? No the mustache is a more recent. I love it. Thank you.
Yeah. I'm still finding the overall groove. But I've got the raw stuff of a look here. You distinguished.
I'm pretty sure about that. It's a good one. That's what it is. Very cop mustache.
No. No. Clean, tight. You could be frankly frankly my damn item.
I don't give a damn. Okay get in warm. Because I'm in the car. Because when I keep playing.
Yeah. It's a bit of a clap. Gable. You love clap.
Gable. Don't you Michael? Sure. Why not?
Okay. I love old movies. Okay. That's right.
Yeah. But I feel like it's the cop thing is like somebody goes, Hey man, your band's really really good. It sounds just like corn. Yeah.
It's not cool. You've gotten so many. I love your mustache. You look like a cop.
And I'm like, I was saying you look like a cop to be a dick. Oh, I appreciate it. Because when I had a handlebar, I think people were close to the truth. Right.
Do you prefer? I mean, is it the same kind of thing where people like, Oh, nice porn's dash? Which one do you want? You don't look like your opponent.
No. You know what I find is anytime that I do anything more, have a five o'clock shadow, a side part, and a plain black t-shirt. People will accuse me of being a total dad and a hipster. It's not real.
It's not real. It's no matter what time you're real. What? Is it real?
The mustache? It's real mustache. What do you mean? The question is, are you?
Yeah. That's a fair question. Now. I did that comment.
Yeah. How do you really hear? Hold on. I think we can convince you or not.
Did you see my mustache that I had recently? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't like it.
Why? It was dirty. It was dirty. That's why I like it.
Like you were zooming in on pieces of food in it on purpose. Was I doing that? Yeah. I had something in it and you were like, look at that.
Oh yeah, I did. Yeah. Why you did that? Because it was there and I didn't.
I couldn't take it out. I couldn't take it out. But I was filming. I didn't know that it was there until I started filming.
I didn't want to start the film over. Why not? Have you ever taken more than one take for Teen Wolf? No.
I'm one take every single one. I'm that fucking good. Look at that. Did you just talk about when you had the lip curtains?
No, no, but this one's the only reason why. Okay. See, that's more copy. That's...
See, there's a lip curtain right there. That's more cowboy. Tombstone. Thank you.
Yes. That looks like if Pedro Pascal shrunk, but his mustache. That's me. Yeah.
That's what I am. But so whenever, I don't know, people who don't have facial hair out there, facial hair is the funnest thing. Women? Women.
Women. You're missing out on. Someone can have a hair. Yeah.
One time I met a guy at the T Awards. What's that? Trans Awards. That's it.
And they were born a lady. And they were a guy now. And they had a dress jacket on. And a wife be at a real low-cut wife be at a...
And I'm trying to think. I think they had top surgery. So they had no... You know you're not allowed to say that anymore?
What? A wife be at a tank. Really? Found it out on a film scene.
And usually I'm pretty flexible with everybody. I don't know if I'm going to do that. See, that ruins a lot of fun because my daughter has a similar kind of vibe. She's five.
And I refer to her shirt as a husband beater. That's probably more expected. The scales have the tip. That's it for us.
It only makes sense if we still have a wife be at it. I'd be okay with that. I used to have a wife that used to beat me. But for fun.
No, I wasn't having a good time at all. It was pretty serious actually. Nobody believed me because she was so cute and hot. And then one time she beat me up in front of my roommate.
And he was like, wow, that's not cool. And then another time in the snow I went to... In front of your room. Yeah.
I wasn't allowed to smoke a part marijuana back then. She was trying to help me. She had a trigger because her parents used to do it too. So she really didn't like it.
But anyway, I wasn't allowed to. And I agreed that I wasn't allowed to. And I came back to the house high with sunglasses on. Which was not a good move.
But I'm a very bad liar. So I had sunglasses on. I was playing video games. And I got on the line of my stomach.
My famous playing video games. I was like, cool man, can I play? So I sat down and said I'm playing video games. And she comes in the room and she's like, hey, and I'm like, hey.
And she goes, well, I got sunglasses on. I was like, I don't know. I was just playing video games. She goes, take your sunglasses off.
And I know, because I attract mummies. I don't even attract, I make people my mummy. Something like that. So are American listeners?
You mean mothers? Not the undead wrapped in gauze. Oh, yeah. Thank you, Michael.
Yeah, mother. Mothers. So I took my sunglasses off of my mother. And she goes look at me and I looked at her.
And she knew what high Jason looks like immediately. And then she got up and started foot stomping me. I never head into the. And then I remember as my foot was bonking off the carpet.
Yeah, sorry. What I say? Yeah, my head was bonking off the carpet. I saw my friend running up the staircase.
And I was like, cool man, thanks for having my back. But I get it. You can't do anything. But then another time in the snow, I went to a party where I was paid to go.
And my mother said be back by midnight. And I drank too much. And I didn't come back until two. And when I came back into the hotel room, it was DC shoes.
But I didn't realize is all the other rooms around me had other athletes and photographers and stuff. And that was the biggest beat down I ever got from a lady ever. I walked in and she started screaming at me for being late. And because I was drunk, I just didn't even, you know, strain.
You know, I was like, ah, because I don't want to cast because of YouTube. But I was like, ah, if you can't cause no, got you. And it's okay. And then she kicked me in the balls and it dropped me to my knees.
And then she started punching me in the head. No, she kicked me in the face. Yeah, but I got beat up a lot. And then I went to the same one.
Yeah, same only one person I ever went out with that stuff. But it flitched me. My next wife, when I did something bad to her, that mother, I flinched her and she felt sorry for me. She was like, I'm just so, you know, I wasn't going to hit you.
And I think it's really sad that you thought that I would do that. And I was like, yeah, well, you don't know where I've been. Do you still have those sort of reflexes? No, no, it's been a long time since somebody hit me.
Now I train. So, so you can, well, I don't know. You just used to it. It's not that I would fight back.
It's that I've been hit by way bigger people and I don't really care about getting hit anymore. I kind of like it. So anyway, I remember being on a couch and she goes, what are you doing? And I was like sitting on the couch.
I figured I'm on the couch for the night. She's like, get in the bedroom. So I went to sleep in the bedroom. When I woke up in the morning, my pillow was covered in blood.
So I was pretty beat up. And then the next day I get in the car to go to the snow and the photographer guy that I didn't really like because he wasn't a skater and I was still pretty hardcore back then. Like anybody who wasn't a skater. Yeah.
And I didn't like most skaters because they had bad styles. So I didn't know everybody pretty much. Yeah. I prided myself on that actually.
So I've come a long way. But he goes, Hey, man, can I tell you for a second? I was like, yeah, okay, dude, what do you want? And he's like, Hey, man, I'm in the room next to you.
And I heard what happened last night. I know you're a big guy and she's little, but that is unacceptable. And I remember his face and him being a what I would consider a normal person. And I was like, yeah.
And he's like, yeah. Like really. And then I asked her to go to anger management. I think she went one time and then she punched me again for some other reason.
But I always thought it was because I was so annoying. And I really am asking anybody that stayed at me. I'm really annoying. So I always, but now I know that even if I'm really annoying, you know, let it beat me up.
But that was a lesson. That was a lesson. I would never go. I would never date another person that would beat me.
Good. Damn, it's really sad to you that you blamed yourself for the beating. I'm annoying. So I deserve it.
Look, not lightly annoying. Really doesn't matter. And now you're right. But still, you know, I grew up in a getting hit was not that crazy.
That foreign. Yeah. Right. Not real bad.
But definitely if you made a big mistake, getting cracked was was coming. Well, I think maybe that had something to do with it. And her being Australian Australians hitting me when I did something wrong was not. And it sounds so sad.
It's really wasn't. I got hit once right? When you're a kid, I was 12 years old. I never got beat.
My parents didn't do that. But my mom and I were I was filming a movie in Mexico. I was 12 years old. And we were walking around.
And I was going down in Monterey, Mexico, which I think now is not the safest place. But back then it was fine. How many movies had you been in since you when you were 12? I was 12.
I had one, two, three, maybe my fourth or three. Oh, wow. Women's of how old were you your first movie? Seven.
With Robert De Niro. I was cut out of it though. I'm in the DVD. You're in the deleted scenes?
In the DVD. That might be the speaking role in the movie is in the deleted scenes. Which one? Paul Blatmockop.
I didn't get it. I thought I was there to. Were you skating? Well, that was the thing.
I was I was training at Team Quest. And my friend was friends with Kevin James. And Kevin James, Paul Blatmockop, was like, Hey, man, do you know any skaters that looked tough? And he goes, I got to pro skateboarder trains with the protein.
And he's covered in tattoo. He's like, Oh, done. So I got picked for this movie without auditioning for a movie. And the other guys that were in the movie were my friends because they're professional skateboarders and professional BMX riders.
And they had auditioned. They were well up to speed with what was happening. I really didn't know that I was going to be speaking or anything. I thought maybe I was just going to be a tough guy.
And they go to skateboard with you. And I was like, Yeah, just so happened. Why? And they're like, because you're skating.
And I was like, Oh, and then it was like, it was a real movie. I was doing real stuff. And it's done work and all kinds of things. Really fun.
I did a radio show the whole time in the mall in a abandoned shoe store. And all I had was a desk and a chair. And I was talking to Michael in LA every day while I was in this abandoned every night. We did some of those shows at like two o'clock in the morning.
Yeah, so we film. I'd film all day and then everybody else would go socialize and go to all these movie parties. And then I'd go to the shoe store. And do a show by myself in this little.
And then were you in Wilshire? He was in LA. No, this is before Wilshire. We were in the morning house.
Sorry, so we have our old original studio. Wow. I remember one night we stayed all night taping and I got a parking ticket. Oh, well, we were there like through the night until when the morning started.
Because we had to like bank one or something. Yeah, something. You just I think we did three. I remember it was not the greatest.
Three shows back. It was four hour shows. Yeah. I think we did two back to back or something.
I know I got there and it was like one a I left a party to come tape with you and by the time I left I got in a parking ticket because the part that started. It was the next day. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. We paid. We paid. We paid.
We paid. We paid. We paid. We paid.
We paid. We paid. We paid. We paid.
We paid. We paid rent. Oh, for sure. To make that show work.
Yeah. So where did JLo hit you? Where did she not hit me? My real mother.
I was filming a movie in Mexico. We're Mexican. I don't know if it's anything to do with it. But we were just walking down the street.
And I was with my homey. And I don't know where I just like spit. I don't know if I was like spitting on it. Yeah.
Punk spitt still. I like spit and it landed right on this wall. She saw it and turned around and smacked me in the face. And I was like, stun because it's never happened before.
Yeah. I just stared at her. And I was like, and I just like bit my tongue and I just walked back to the face. And I was like, what the fuck?
Just. What just happened? Yeah. It was why because I never.
But she never hit you again. She never hit me again or before. Were you a bad kid? No.
Cause that doesn't seem like that bad of a thing to do. It was not even on purpose. You know, I spit. But I didn't.
It was a weird reaction. She regretted. I don't know. We never talked about it.
You never brought it up again. I never brought it up. And now she's not here anymore. Oh, sorry.
Did you get it? Have you tried to figure it out? Why is she hit me? Because I have a weird theory.
Adultry. So she knows her roots and now you're growing up and you're not just in Hollywood. Like as a physical space. You're like in.
Hollywood and she's like excited about the opportunities who wouldn't be at the same time. It's like, am I fundamentally losing the values of the old country? And now you're actually in the old country and you do this like entitled spoiled Hollywood kid thing in the exact place at the exact moment where she's like, not should I have raised my kid in Mexico? But like, what have I lost by not doing that and seeing the juxtaposition of how you're this Hollywood kid?
Maybe she's fearing you're even worse than you are. You're on a bad path and the old country. That was the exact moment in time that she couldn't see that happen. Yeah.
I think I think that's why I mentioned like this was a Mexico in Mexican. Right. So I think there was probably like, and I think the Hollywood thing being in a movie that young and then seeing you do that. Maybe.
She could have. Oh no, he's turning into a monster. I better react. Maybe we never had that talk.
Maybe that was the talk. It's only good. Yeah. Like instead of having a big talk about it, maybe just a quick crack in the face and be like, hey, I don't think you're special.
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You've never been you know, I'm so and so kind of guy. You know what? Honestly, the only time I've ever used that was when I so I don't know if you remember but the first time we met I was this was well over 10 years ago. Yeah, I was a huge fan of the show for years and the final I started making name for myself and I called in and somebody picked up.
I don't know if it was Kevin or what somebody picked up and and I was like, Hey, I felt so stupid. I was like, My name is Tyler Posey. I'm on this TV show. I just would love to talk to Jason and I'm listening to the radio as it's happening and I hear you go who is Tyler Posey?
I was like, Oh, no way. And then we got on the phone and talk but that's the only time really I've ever been like, Hey, I'm so and so if I could be mistaken big time but I think that you were brought up to me as Hey, Team Wolf is on probably Yeah, and I was like Team Wolf because I had not watched your show. I watched my face because it was a long time ago and I was definitely in a in a headspace where I was not going to watch a TV show called Team Wolf. Yeah, I already thought I was probably too old but in your defense you were.
Thank you, Michael. Not true. But I think I probably called Bull on you big. I always never expected anybody famous to call the show.
So when anyone ever said that they were so and so from something, I'd be like, No, you're not. Yeah. Why would you call this show? Nobody's listening.
I was always under that. But that was like really one of the only I mean, every now and then I'll be like, Oh, that looks cool. I want that. And I'll be like, Hey, would you guys want to collaborate on something?
Yeah, yeah. I want to a cold plunge or a sauna or whatever. But I don't really do. I don't want to use that.
And I think it's because I think this is where your question was leading to it is was I growing up as in an set. I was kind of I was around a lot of divas or whatever. However, you want to call it. But I saw this hierarchy and this tier system at a really young age and hated it.
It's stuck with you. It's stuck in the yeah. But so here's here's the moment that it happened. I was on set.
I was on set and there's a craft service table for all the free food that actors can get. And apparently there's one so background actors. You're familiar with that. I've been that a couple of times.
Yeah, the people in the background and they get treated poorly on set. It's horrendous. And I hate it so much. This is my first introduction to how badly they get treated.
This kid they put out impenade on a lot of those on the craft service day. Warm beefy. It's like a beanie until you just grab it. You don't have to use a fork or anything.
It's like a hot pocket. Right. It's really nice. But not that unhealthy.
Probably better for you. For sure. Yeah. In this kid this background kid probably 20 something.
I was eight. He came up and grabbing a banana and this person literally like smacked it out of his hand. And I was watching this whole thing happen. She's like, this is for the actors.
You were tables over there. And there was like maybe the salting crackers like there was nothing there. And I was like, I was like, it affected me. Yeah.
I didn't couldn't articulate how at that point. But I grabbed one and put it in my pocket and I walked over the kid. And I was like, yeah, yeah. I want this.
And the look he gave me is something I've been chasing my entire life. Yeah. And that's when I was like, all right, I'm going to be different. Yeah.
I don't want to be these this. I don't want to live by this hierarchy, this weird like tier system that is here. And so I've just done my best to be normal. And I don't want to be associated with actors.
I was embarrassed to be an actor when I was a kid. So I did my best to be like, OK, I want to be normal. I want to stay normal. I want to go to school.
I want to get in trouble. I want to become a pot head. I want to drink you. I want to do everything.
I want to cover myself in tattoos. I wanted to not be seen as an actor because I was so embarrassed by it. I think that's why I like to. When you came on the show, I can tell that you were.
You were small time in your life. And you just wanted to be one of the boys with us. And I was like, but you're a team wolf. And you were like, yeah, but I don't really see myself as that.
And I was like, man, I really like that. And then working on bikes and just wanting to live a normal life, it seemed. Absolutely. Yeah.
And now, you know, I'm older. I really appreciate what I do. I love. I love the business.
I love acting. I love it. I love it. You know, that's what you wanted from it to be a good actor, not to be everybody move out of my way.
I know I'm getting that. I'm getting that. But also. So whatever.
Yeah. Did you think I want to ask your names, but did you not from the people who worked on the set, but from actual performers actors? Can you think of any particular instances of diva behavior that people your mind? Yeah, definitely.
There was a blowing thing. I'll tell you after the show. I'm not yet. But I mean, just like, like, like, like, like, throwing tantrums on set, calling people out for no reason and also making an entire crew wait on set while they're in their trailer for hours.
Yeah. It was the actual rose kind of stuff. I don't know. Well, Axel Rose used to make the staff the crowd wait hours and hours.
Oh, yeah. Like, I never went to a Guntan Rose's concert, not for more than before. I knew he was a douche. I was more of a motel once again going back to skateboarding, like, Metallica, AC, DC, everybody else sucks kind of thing.
And Guntan Rose's were good appetite for destruction was awesome, but they. Tried too hard to look away. And I was like, you, you're poses, you know, like that's you're the rover. Compostated.
Yeah, that's why I like them. But they were known for because that's the other thing. Metallica cared about their fans. Like they, they did four hour shows because they'd say, do you want to keep going?
And the crowd was like, yes, we do. They keep going. And, and, and Guntan Rose's were the complete opposite. And then I guess at one point they were on the road together and.
Axel couldn't sing or something. And then James, I feel, saw him smoking cigarettes backstage and was like, wait, your voice is not doing well and you're smoking cigarettes and drinking. As a singer, you know, you don't care about your fans. And he was well known for showing up very late to concerts where, you know, if you're in the pit and like, I've been in the Mittagans, it's hard to stay to breathe.
And if James doesn't come out for two hours and then plays for four hours, he's killing people. Well, maybe not killing, but maybe, but definitely putting kids in hospital, like dehydrated and passing out and all that stuff. Yes. And on them.
So, yes. So we're going to say, everybody's peeping their pants. Yeah, you can't, you definitely can't leave. Yeah.
And he, I don't think he care if anything. I think he got off on it. I wish I could say the same, but I felt victim to that more than once. What?
Being so? No, being in the statistical douche and having tantrums. And I never made everybody wait because I always cared about the fans. Right.
But I definitely thought I was. Why do you think you're doing that? I think because that you had the reaction of, I never want to be like that. And I remember thinking when somebody did that, that I wanted to not be the one I didn't want to be the bitch one day I'm going to be that and I'm going to bitch you out for being the bitch.
Not seeing where does that come from? I think from maybe not thinking that I'm special. Right. And one day I'm going to show you.
Right. Totally. Yeah. I think I was trying to impress somebody that I don't care to impress anymore.
Totally. But it took me a long time. More than I fell victim to it more than once because in skateboarding when I was really good, I think I had that attitude. Definitely not as over the top like that.
But I definitely had that attitude where I thought that I was cooler than you. And if you had the wrong shoes on, I probably couldn't take you serious and I didn't see the kindness in your heart. I just saw like, why would you wear those? Like, do you not understand what's going on in this world?
You know, like sketches, there's a shoe company. I hate that shoe company still. Because of their dorky look? Yeah, no, because I remember when it first came out, I was like, that's the worst shoe company ever.
And then I remember walking down the street once in a store, which was a sketch of store. And I was like, whoa, they made it. And it made me hate the world. Right.
Because I was like, you all bought it enough to make them money. How dumb are you? Like Nickelback selling 40 million albums. I was like, I hate the world for that.
You know, like, you're telling me 40 million people that's stupid. Like, don't talk to me 40 million people. And if you add it, I don't know, I'm very good at math. But I would just assume I shouldn't tell anybody anymore because that's a lot of people.
And it's pretty disheartening sometimes, right? That's what it was disheartening. Yeah. I was like, we're better than this people.
Yeah. We're better than sketches, but we're not. I own a pair of sketches a bottom recently for my first pair recently recently. Recently.
I take it home. I really, I wish you had brought them here today. I wouldn't have caught on fire. I accidentally set fire to Tyler's shoes today when I got in my coal punch and I shot my flame throw over him while he was in the chair in the coal plunge as you do.
But I just want to you point it down to get the gas into the nozzle to get extra fire. And when I pointed it down, I wasn't looking and I accidentally set fire to shoes. But if they had been sketches, I would have stayed on it. I'd still be out there melting them into the company.
You know, they're pretty damn comfy. Yeah, they're pretty comfy. So a crocs, but I ain't wearing them. I don't wear in crocs either.
I realized I figured out the crocs thing over the weekend because crocs are like super hot, have been for a minute. They're they're the generations Doc Martens because Doc Martens were orthopedic shoes. People like were people like made fun of when they first came out. The sandal ones.
They're gonna talk about more of this generation's book. I wear burger socks. I do one burger socks. Okay.
I mean, you don't care. So I get your angle. Okay, about what? It's fashion.
I care about. I mean, I like to look at the other day on your Instagram. I was like, my mustache was like red in it. You don't care.
I'm just one of the people. Yeah. Yeah. That's what you're trying to do.
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