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EPISODE · Jul 4, 2026 · 41 MIN

U.S. intelligence community freaks out as Trump leads by conspiracy theory

from The Briefing with Jen Psaki · host Jen Psaki, Vaughn Hillyard, Eugene Daniels, Scott MacFarlane, Liz Oyer, Rep. Ro Khanna, Dr. Annie Andrews

Vaughn Hillyard, Eugene Daniels, and Scott MacFarlane talk with Jen Psaki about Donald Trump appointing a hatchet man to run amok in the U.S. intelligence community, making cuts based on “deep state” paranoid conspiracy theories. Rep. Ro Khanna joins the discuss the rise of progressive politics within the Democratic Party. Liz Oyer, former Justice Department pardon attorney, discusses Donald Trump's reported plans to issue a mass pardon of 250 people, and the dubious choices he makes in who receives those pardons. Dr. Annie Andrews joins to discuss her race for Senate against Linsey Graham and why she has best shot in years of putting him out. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Vaughn Hillyard, Eugene Daniels, and Scott MacFarlane talk with Jen Psaki about Donald Trump appointing a hatchet man to run amok in the U.S. intelligence community, making cuts based on “deep state” paranoid conspiracy theories.

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