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EPISODE · Feb 13, 2026 · 48 MIN

Understanding Complexity with Dave Snowden - OrgDev Episode 93

from OrgDev with Distinction · host Dani Bacon and Garin Rouch

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message!How to apply complexity thinking in your organisationIf we can’t reliably predict what will happen in our organisations, can’t control outcomes in any simple way, and can’t even agree on what’s true – how do we lead?That’s the territory explored in this conversation with Dave Snowden. We move beyond tidy change models and into the realities of uncertainty, distributed knowledge and contested meaning. This episode challenges the instinct to simplify too quickly, offering a more grounded way to think about judgement, intervention and action in complex systems.From Cynefin to estuarine mapping, the discussion examines what it really means to make sense of the present before attempting to shape the future — and why leadership in complexity is less about control and more about creating the conditions for coherence to emerge.Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we.That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work.You’ll get: ■ Key insights from the episode ■ A reflection prompt ■ A suggested actionSign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/About UsWe’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change.Find out more at www.distinction.live We'd love to connect with you on Linked In:linkedin.com/in/danibacon478https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

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