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EPISODE · Oct 1, 2025 · 38 MIN

Understanding Israel-A Dialogue on Peace and Conflict with Barry Shaw

from Between the East and the West · host Meenu Gupta

In this episode of 'Between the East and the West', host Meenu Gupta engages with Barry Shaw, a senior associate for public diplomacy at the Israel Institute for Strategic Studies. The conversation delves into the complexities of public diplomacy, Israel's position in global discourse, and the historical context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Barry shares his personal journey, experiences with antisemitism, and critiques of media narratives surrounding Israel. The discussion also explores the emotional weight of ongoing conflicts, the role of truth in public diplomacy, and Barry's vision for a peaceful future in Gaza through a protectorate model.KeywordsPublic diplomacy, Israel, Barry Shaw, peace, conflict resolution, media narratives, antisemitism, Gaza, historical context, dialogueTakeaways-Public diplomacy shifts the conversation from governments to individuals.-Israel's narrative is often misunderstood in international discourse.-Barry's perspective is shaped by historical Jewish suffering.-The Oslo Accords were a significant turning point in the conflict.-Yasser Arafat's legacy is controversial and complex.-Media representation can distort the reality of conflicts.-Antisemitism remains a pervasive issue in many societies.-Education is crucial for fostering understanding and peace.-A new model for Gaza could involve a protectorate system.-Reality must guide public diplomacy efforts moving forward.Sound bites"We are fighting a death cult.""Reality is a human value.""Education, not indoctrination."

In this episode of 'Between the East and the West', host Meenu Gupta engages with Barry Shaw, a senior associate for public diplomacy at the Israel Institute for Strategic Studies. The conversation delves into the complexities of public diplomacy, Israel's position in global discourse, and the historical context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Barry shares his personal journey, experiences with antisemitism, and critiques of media narratives surrounding Israel. The discussion also explores the emotional weight of ongoing conflicts, the role of truth in public diplomacy, and Barry's vision for a peaceful future in Gaza through a protectorate model.KeywordsPublic diplomacy, Israel, Barry Shaw, peace, conflict resolution, media narratives, antisemitism, Gaza, historical context, dialogueTakeaways-Public diplomacy shifts the conversation from governments to individuals.-Israel's narrative is often misunderstood in international discourse.-Barry's perspective is shaped by historical Jewish suffering.-The Oslo Accords were a significant turning point in the conflict.-Yasser Arafat's legacy is controversial and complex.-Media representation can distort the reality of conflicts.-Antisemitism remains a pervasive issue in many societies.-Education is crucial for fostering understanding and peace.-A new model for Gaza could involve a protectorate system.-Reality must guide public diplomacy efforts moving forward.Sound bites"We are fighting a death cult.""Reality is a human value.""Education, not indoctrination."

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