UnHack (the Podcast): Creating Security Ambassadors and AI Ethics with Chase Franzen

August 25, 2025: Chase Franzen, VP and CISO at Sharp Healthcare, discusses how they transformed their cybersecurity training into something so engaging that employees actually call it fun. But as AI capabilities advance at breakneck speed, what happens when traditional phishing indicators disappear and deepfakes become indistinguishable from reality? Chase discusses Sharp's AI ethics committee and their approach to balancing innovation with responsibility, while sharing candid thoughts about AI's true costs. The conversation also explores how failure and discomfort drive growth, touching on everything from real estate disasters to the joy of flying planes Key Points: 02:51 Diverse Career Paths: Real Estate, Teaching, and More 08:36 Innovative Cyber Ambassador Program 13:03 AI Cybersecurity Concerns 21:57 Lightning Round: Quotes, Failures, and Airplanes X: This Week Health LinkedIn: This Week Health Donate: Alex’s Lemonade Stand: Foundation for Childhood Cancer