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EPISODE · Mar 15, 2022 · 9 MIN

UPDATE: Flathead County Doe

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This is an update to the August 2020 episode "UNIDENTIFIED: Flathead County Doe." In the year and a half since the release of that episode, more people submitted their DNA to genealogical databases, and in February 2022 Flathead County Doe was identified as Steven Gooch. In the rest of this episode we also discuss the following headlines: -Remains found and suspected to be of missing Brandon Lawson. -A recent search for Susan Cox Powell and its findings. -A senseless and horrific murder leaves China Town grieving. -Las Vegas man arrested for holding his girlfriend captive and killing her 4-year-old son. -Missing child Paislee Shultiz found alive and kept under a staircase. -New details in the events prior to the disappearance of Kara Nichols are made public. -An Ontario Dr. is charged with the murder of a patient and suspected of more. -DNA technology helps identify a serial killer from Oregon. Sign up for the 'Stay Alive' fan club level in the month of March to hear this whole episode and get a new episode like this every month. Along with an extra full episode, mini-episode and all our wide release episodes early and ad-free. You can see all the fan club content HERE and when you sign up for an annual membership you get ALL past episodes as well. Source materials for this episode cannot be listed here due to character limitations. For a full list of sources, please visit https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/update-flathead-county-doe/ Don’t miss out on all things Crime Junkie! Instagram: @crimejunkiepodcast | @audiochuck Twitter: @CrimeJunkiePod | @audiochuck TikTok: @crimejunkiepodcast Facebook: /CrimeJunkiePodcast | /audiochuckllc Crime Junkie is hosted by Ashley Flowers and Brit Prawat. Instagram: @ashleyflowers | @britprawat Twitter: @Ash_Flowers | @britprawat TikTok: @ashleyflowerscrimejunkie Facebook: /AshleyFlowers.AF You can join Ashley’s community by texting (317) 733-7485 to stay up to date on what's new! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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This is an update to the August 2020 episode "UNIDENTIFIED: Flathead County Doe." In the year and a half since the release of that episode, more people submitted their DNA to genealogical databases, and in February 2022 Flathead County Doe was identified as Steven Gooch.

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Hi crime junkies Ashley flowers here. I wanted to bring you all a special update on a case that we covered that you guys actually Might have had a hand in solving now if you didn't know every month in our fan club Britain I do a segment called headlines where we talk about some of the most talked about true crime topics all of the stuff that you guys Are DMing us about talking about in the Facebook discussion group all of the cases that you want to know our thoughts on and we break Them down for you now We also do a full-length bonus episode in the fan club every month a mini episode every month in the fan club and actually saw a comment The other day from someone that's like are these episodes like as good as the regular ones the same as the regular ones And I never knew that you guys were wondering that yes All of our episodes are just as long just as interesting but cases that you've never heard us tell like this month in March We covered the eyeball serial killer as our full-length episode Anyway, all that to say there is so much content in the fan club if you ever thought about checking it out I'll actually put a link in the show notes so you can see all of the extra episodes that are waiting there But I want to give you a piece of fan club content for free because again You guys might have had a hand in solving this case and you deserve to hear the update So here is a clip from the February 2022 headlines episode enjoy Okay, so I'm gonna start off today with a few kind of like rapid fire updates for a few cases that we've already covered in like full Or mini episodes and the first one I want to talk about is an update to a mini episode that we did back in August of 2020 And honestly I had to double check that because I feel like we did this episode five minutes ago But it's the Flathead County dough episode And if you remember the sheriff's office in Flathead County had actually reached out to us back in 2020 and asked us to do the episode And so a year and a half later, we're excited to bring you an update now You haven't listened to the episode for it's been a while I am gonna start off with a little bit of a refresher Just to catch everyone up to speed but basically back in 2003 The remains of a man were discovered at the bottom of a cliff in Montana along with a gun and other belongings Like a shoe and a bottle of a leaf and if you remember that a leaf bottle actually ended up being a really important piece in narrowing down How long the remains might have been there because they found out that the style of the bottle was only produced between June of 1994 and January of 1997 right so it's like really specific right and then something similar actually happened with the shoe that they found It had only been produced in 1995 which narrowed down their estimated time of death even more Police were also hopeful that the gun and the remains would give them some clues as to who their victim was and what the cause of death was But unfortunately the gun ended up being a dead end and the only thing they learned from the remains were that they had been there for a few Years and their victim was a white male between 2136 now despite the sheriff's office best efforts the case went cold There were a few interesting developments over the years which we covered in our episode But one of the biggest was back in 2018 when they turned to the DNA Doe project to hopefully ID their John Doe through genetic genealogy But frustratingly according to a post on the DNA Doe project's website They were only able to get like really distant matches like we're talking for cousins here Now there were multiple family trees that their John Doe could have been a part of like we if you remember have like specific names from like Specific regions. I think it was like kind of in the Midwest like Kentucky-ish area And so the team was like going through the painstaking task of eliminating them one by one And they just kind of hit like a dead end like this is as far as we can go without more people submitting their DNA So that's when in 2020 They reached out to us to do an episode and they asked us to basically encourage our listeners to submit DNA to try and get a closer Match and I was actually surprised at the turnout of that episode Like we got a ton of DMs and emails that said hey, I have this last name I live in this area I'm gonna talk to my family and see if anyone's missing or I'm gonna submit my DNA It turns out that you know whether it was our work or just the work of the public It was all worth it because in January 2022 They were able to finally track down a close match in a press release from the Flathead County Sheriff's Office law enforcement reached out to one of the relatives Who said that back in 1995 his 29-year-old son had gone missing So law enforcement compared the DNA profile that they had from the remains to that of the missing man and finally after 19 years Flathead County Doe was identified as Steven Gooch in February of this year According to Steven's family around the time they stopped hearing from him He had been talking about possibly making his way from San Diego to Las Vegas But after months of not hearing from him they decided to file a missing persons report and again like it's not in Montana So you can see how it didn't get connected and somehow Steven made his way from San Diego to Montana and between 1995 and 1996 He died either on or near the cliff where his remains were found And so I actually got an email from the deputy coroner in Flathead County back in early February when they announced that they had I did him and actually gonna read part of that email to you because I think it's really cool The email says quote we have gotten quite a few calls from people who heard the podcast a lot of them were instructed to upload their DNA in Order to further the DNA research of course we will never know for sure But who knows maybe one of those people's DNA ultimately led or at least assisted in the father being tracked down the point is I really Appreciate you doing the story end quote. I just got full body chills I know so listen Yeah, we don't know if it was one of our listeners who's DNA ultimately led to the identification with the fact that the episode reached enough People to possibly help make the idea like this happened.

This is why we do this This is why we do call out to the end of episodes. This is why freaking cool This is why we reach out to you guys for like hey, you could help be part of this and like you said we may never ever know But the fact is it's just so amazing. Yeah, well listen even though Stephen has been identified the sheriff's office is still dedicated to finding out what happened Him according to king five calm quote the sheriff's office did not release any details about the cause or manner of Gucci's death end quote And an article from KPAX news flathead County Sheriff Brian He knows stated that he hopes the identification will bring closure to his loved ones and they won't stop searching until they have more answers So this is the next part if you think you have any information relating to the investigation into Stephen Gucci's death You can contact the flathead County Sheriff's office at four zero six seven five eight Fifty six hundred or you can email tips at flathead dot mt dot gov There are eight other stories we cover in this month's headline episode including an update in the Susan Cox Powell case the Brandon Lawson case And I'm sure you guys saw all over the headlines of a young little girl named Paisley who was found underneath the stairs Right now kind of dive into that it's a little more complex than the headlines would have you believe anyway? If you want to hear that sign up for the highest level this month in our fan club the month of March you'll get that episode You'll also get a full episode on the serial killer known as the eyeball killer Which is a wild case you'll get a mini episode and you get all of our wide episodes at free if you're hearing this later You can sign up for an annual membership and get every case we've ever done the entire backlog of full episodes Many episodes headline episodes.

There's a total of like 400 and some in the fan club We're gonna link to that in the show notes You can also find the sources for this specific episode on our blog post crime junkie podcast calm Crime junkie is an audio chuck production. So what do you think Chuck? Do you approve? When the nights grow longer the shadows start to stir and that can only mean one thing full body chills is back This season step inside original tales where every doorway leads somewhere darker every stranger carries a secret and nothing is ever quite what it seems Each story takes you somewhere new but be careful you never know what might follow you home So gather around listen close and stream full body chills wherever you get your podcast

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