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EPISODE · Jul 6, 2026 · 1H 24M

Veterans in the Family: How WWII Shaped Us

from The Scuttlebutt: Understanding Military Culture · host Veterans Breakfast Club

How has World War II shaped your family? What stories, memories, questions, and mysteries have been passed down through the generations? Join host Glenn Flickinger for a special Greatest Generation Live conversation exploring the enduring impact of World War II on veterans and the families who inherited their legacies. We’ll hear from Lee Kikel, whose father, Melvin Goldman, survived the Holocaust and was liberated from the Wöbbelin concentration camp in Germany in May 1945. After surviving years of imprisonment in the Lodz Ghetto, Auschwitz, and other camps, Goldman was among thousands rescued in the final days of the war. His gratitude to the American soldiers who liberated Wöbbelin became a defining part of his life and family story. We’ll also be joined by Richard Murphy, whose father-in-law, Lawrence McGartland of Turtle Creek, Pennsylvania, helped liberate Wöbbelin as a soldier in the 28th Infantry Regiment, 8th Infantry Division. Drafted at age 30, married and the father of two young children, McGartland landed in France after D-Day and fought through four campaigns—Normandy, Northern France, the Rhineland, and Central Europe. Wounded twice during 266 days of combat, he was among the American soldiers who encountered the horrors of Wöbbelin on May 2, 1945. Like many veterans of his generation, McGartland rarely spoke about his wartime experiences. Only years after his death did his children begin to learn what he had endured and accomplished. As they pieced together his military service, they gained new insight into the quiet effects of war that remained throughout his life—from his aversion to loud noises to the flashbacks he experienced in old age. Understanding his service helped his family better understand the man they loved. Lee and Richard’s stories intersect at a remarkable moment in history: one family descended from a survivor of Wöbbelin, the other from one of its liberators. Following their presentations, we’ll open the conversation to everyone. We invite you to share stories of parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and other relatives whose lives were shaped by World War II—whether they served overseas, worked on the home front, survived wartime hardships, or carried the war’s memories long after the fighting ended. The generation that fought World War II is passing from the scene, but their stories continue to shape families and communities. Join us as we explore how understanding our veterans can help us know—and love—them a little better.

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