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EPISODE · Feb 24, 2026 · 58 MIN

Vitamins or Aspirin? with Jeff Kaye

from Grow, Build, and Scale with Jon Bartos · host Jon Bartos

In this episode of Grow, Build & Scale, Jon Bartos brings in the inimitable Jeff Kaye, one of the most respected and experienced experts and advisors in the recruiting industry, offering advice on scaling your executive search firm to the next level by asking the question: when do you need vitamins (proactive tools) and when do you need aspirin (to address the growing pains?)About Jeff Kaye serves as the Co-Chief Executive Officer of Kaye/Bassman International, Next Level Exchange, Starfish Partners, and Sanford Rose Associates International. Under his leadership, these organizations foster a culture of servant leadership, have achieved extraordinary retention rates, with a third of their 200 associates having over a decade of tenure. Jeff played a pivotal role in the growth of Next Level Exchange, now the world’s largest training and consulting firm for the search and staffing industry.In 2012, Jeff spearheaded the acquisition of Sanford Rose Associates, leading to a remarkable 15X growth in network revenue in less than a decade. Additionally, he helped facilitate the merger of Kaye/Bassman with Direct Recruiters in 2022, forming Starfish Partners, and in 2023, he played a key role in establishing Dimensional Search, which quickly became the fastest-growing search network in the country for new startup firms.He has received numerous industry awards both personally and for his organizations.About Jon Bartos"Starting my own search firm in 1999 was both the most challenging and rewarding decision of my career. It gave me the freedom to build a business on my own terms, while still being present for my family, a balance that changed my life. Today, as CEO of Dimensional Search, I’m proud to lead a platform that empowers entrepreneurs to experience that same freedom and success. With global resources, proven systems, and a network of like-minded owners, we provide the support you need to build, grow, and scale a thriving search firm." — Jon Bartos, Chief Executive Officer, Dimensional Search Chief Investment Officer, Starfish Partners Senior Partner, Sanford Rose Associates Senior Partner, Next Level ExchangeConnect with Jon on LinkedInFollow Grow, Build & Scale on LinkedIn

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In this episode of Grow, Build & Scale, Jon Bartos brings in the inimitable Jeff Kaye, one of the most respected and experienced experts and advisors in the recruiting industry, offering advice on scaling your executive search firm to the next level by asking the question: when do you need vitamins (proactive tools) and when do you need aspirin (to address the growing pains?) About Jeff Kaye serves as the Co-Chief Executive Officer of Kaye/Bassman International, Next Level Exchange,...

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