Vultisig Building for a THORChain, Rujira and Agentic Future | Podcast #216

In this episode, Denny and paaao discuss everything about Vultisig: what it is, its token, future plans, and much more.Swap now https://swap.thorchain.org/ THORChain is a decentralized crypto exchange. THORChain is the first and biggest DEX for Bitcoin. You can use any self custody wallet to swap and there’s no KYC required.Timestamps:00:00:00 Intro00:03:00 Paaao starts00:04:00 What is Vultisig?00:05:00 37 chains supported — Vultisig was born from THORChain MPC/TSS technology00:06:00 Every Vultisig user is a mini THORChain ecosystem00:08:00 When will we have a proper referral fee on all swaps, not just THORChain?00:12:00 What API is used? Is it OpenOcean for Solana meme coins?00:13:00 Is there an MEV component?00:14:00 How are swaps routed for maximum efficiency?00:17:00 How is Vultisig positioned to take advantage of everything that's coming?00:19:00 bRUNE support and the acquisition of Station Wallet00:20:00 Station is being converted into a fully agentic wallet!00:21:00 CCL on Rujira makes a great case for agentic use00:23:00 As soon as THORChain came back, people started swapping again00:25:00 MiCA consequences — people fleeing to self-custody00:26:00 How do we capture these users?00:28:00 Help us connect to communities, THORChads! Private keys are toxic!00:30:00 We have a sophisticated SDK that we are hardening — Hermes Agent00:31:00 Your agent can interact with other agents00:33:00 Vultisig is a return to proper self-custody00:35:00 Vultisig is building for the future00:38:00 Our goal is to make the wallet super easy — please let us know what can be improved!00:39:00 Self-hosting a Vultisig server could be powerful for businesses00:42:00 Could the VULT token become a universal in-app gas token?00:43:00 We'd need more centralized accounting — interesting idea00:45:00 We don't want to mix AI with wallet setup to reduce attack vectors00:47:00 Everyone can use Vultisig however they want, but self-hosting means maintaining your own app00:47:30 Vultisig Marketplace — developers can create automations00:48:00 For the first time, you can use custodial infrastructure to DCA through automated workflows00:49:00 We are focusing primarily on the agentic side rather than the marketplace00:51:00 Fee percentage question00:52:00 Is Vultisig hiring?00:53:00 Everyone is welcome to join Discord and open a PR, but we're not hiring full-time00:54:00 How safe are AI agents with Vultisig?00:55:00 We are focused on guardrails and multiple security layers for AI agents00:57:00 AI agents have been our biggest challenge00:58:00 Finding the balance between AI capabilities and guardrails is difficult01:00:00 Rujira support is coming soon!01:01:00 What makes you so excited about Rujira?01:02:00 Paaao loves lending, borrowing, and the liquidation engine01:03:00 The cross-chain capabilities are truly unique01:04:00 The connection between Rujira and Vultisig01:06:00 When XMR? Paaao: We're exploring how to add it01:08:00 MPC cryptography is difficult because we use DKLS01:09:00 MiCA regulations complicate the situation01:11:00 Is there anything else you'd like to talk about?01:12:00 Shout-out to the OGs: Try Vultisig again! It's changed a lot — send us feedback!01:13:00 Shared vaults for families, trust funds, and much more01:14:00 We want to improve communication — app releases every week01:16:00 Quai recommendation01:17:00 THORChain is a cockroach!