Waiting for the Debate

from Read With Me · host Benjamin Wittes and Mike Pesca

Wherein Holly Berkley Fletcher and Mike Pesca are scheduled to debate the legacy of Charlie Kirk, but Mike Pesca is late. Holly and Ben kill time by discussing hostages, Virginia governors, and Ben’s abuse of his cohosts. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.dogshirtdaily.com/subscribe

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