EPISODE · Jul 10, 2026 · 1H 20M
Wartime Ethereum: The Case For ETH Going Much Higher
from The Edge Podcast · host DeFi Dad
John Gillen is an ex-BlackRock VP, General Partner at TRU Capital, and host of The Milk Road Show.In this episode, John breaks down his Wartime Ethereum thesis on why this is a defining moment for Ethereum that demands engagement, conviction, and patience rather than capitulation. He walks through how ETH functions as a triple point asset, why stablecoins, tokenization, and the agentic economy are all in their first innings with Ethereum best positioned to capture each tailwind, and why decentralized AI makes the case for Ethereum's censorship resistance more urgent than ever.------💎 THIS EPISODE'S SPONSORS🔒 KPK | Best risk-adjusted yield through automated vaults🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term🟠 APYX | The first dividend-backed stablecoin (DBS)🌏 MANTLE | The world’s premier RWA distribution layer🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield------⏱️ TIMESTAMPS0:00 - Intro3:01 - Why John got invested in Ethereum and ETH8:39 - Why Ethereum + ETH are the most important chain + asset14:29 - Why are we in Wartime Ethereum mode?17:44 - Ethereum doubles down on “can’t be evil”20:23 - Ethereum is trustware for building economic systems24:48 - Is Wall Street understanding and buying ETH value accrual?32:04 - The largest institutional bull run vs bearish retail sentiment36:03 - When strong fundamentals translate to number-go-up for ETH45:57 - CLARITY Act will be a tailwind for Ethereum’s growth52:11 - There is no EF funding crisis, the ecosystem is reshaping59:05 - Why decentralized AI makes the case for Ethereum1:08:39 - DeFi attracts those who question the rules of society1:10:33 - How to value ETH: Triple point asset framework explained1:14:29 - John's outlook for ETH price1:18:23 - Closing------🔗 GUEST LINKS► Milk Road website: https://milkroad.com/pro/► Milk Road on X: https://x.com/MilkRoadDaily► John Gillen on X: https://x.com/BitcoinJesusETH------🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and John all hold ETH.
What this episode covers
John Gillen is an ex-BlackRock VP, General Partner at TRU Capital, and host of The Milk Road Show.In this episode, John breaks down his Wartime Ethereum thesis on why this is a defining moment for Ethereum that demands engagement, conviction, and patience rather than capitulation. He walks through how ETH functions as a triple point asset, why stablecoins, tokenization, and the agentic economy are all in their first innings with Ethereum best positioned to capture each tailwind, and why decentralized AI makes the case for Ethereum's censorship resistance more urgent than ever.------💎 THIS EPISODE'S SPONSORS🔒 KPK | Best risk-adjusted yield through automated vaults🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term🟠 APYX | The first dividend-backed stablecoin (DBS)🌏 MANTLE | The world’s premier RWA distribution layer🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield------⏱️ TIMESTAMPS0:00 - Intro3:01 - Why John got invested in Ethereum and ETH8:39 - Why Ethereum + ETH are the most important chain + asset14:29 - Why are we in Wartime Ethereum mode?17:44 - Ethereum doubles down on “can’t be evil”20:23 - Ethereum is trustware for building economic systems24:48 - Is Wall Street understanding and buying ETH value accrual?32:04 - The largest institutional bull run vs bearish retail sentiment36:03 - When strong fundamentals translate to number-go-up for ETH45:57 - CLARITY Act will be a tailwind for Ethereum’s growth52:11 - There is no EF funding crisis, the ecosystem is reshaping59:05 - Why decentralized AI makes the case for Ethereum1:08:39 - DeFi attracts those who question the rules of society1:10:33 - How to value ETH: Triple point asset framework explained1:14:29 - John's outlook for ETH price1:18:23 - Closing------🔗 GUEST LINKS► Milk Road website: https://milkroad.com/pro/► Milk Road on X: https://x.com/MilkRoadDaily► John Gillen on X: https://x.com/BitcoinJesusETH------🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and John all hold ETH.
NOW PLAYING
Wartime Ethereum: The Case For ETH Going Much Higher
No transcript for this episode yet
Similar Episodes
Mar 26, 2026 ·1m
Mar 19, 2026 ·34m
Feb 18, 2026 ·11m
Feb 11, 2026 ·45m