Welcome to Dana Brannam Brandt. I'm Dan. What's going on, man? Living forever.
Always, right? Yeah. I just keep living. Yeah.
Just keep the boat around. Fuck you, Captain. He's like death staring me across the room. I just was my cat.
Welcome to the show. How are you doing, man? Nah, I just got literally been on the road all morning. You're always busy.
Yeah. If I'm a little busy, I'm annoyed. Well, it's not even in town and I'm still busy. Yeah.
There's something special about just laying around, not doing anything. I got to be on this going to be a lot of this week coming up. Good for you. No, yeah.
I was out of wedding this weekend. Just want to say congratulations Jacob and Amanda. Congrats. Jacob.
He's a listener of the show. Had a good time at your wedding, man. Right on. Right on.
What kind of wedding? About door, indoor? Outdoor, every section was indoor. It was quick, so it was hot.
But I mean, it was nice. It was very pretty. Up in mountains, up in York. Really?
That's cool. Oh, yeah. Just right outside Rock Hill. It might have been Rock Hill.
It was somewhere in that area. Are they from up there? Yeah. She's originally from Charlotte area.
Not Charlotte. Lake Wiley. Lake Wiley. Lake Wiley.
That seems like a tough place to go. He's a smart kid, man. I don't think he's really not that much of a kid. I haven't run into a lot of people from there, but I knew a professor there for a while.
Professor Bellman, I think he's retired. But it seems like the cadets have kind of a rough time with them. Yeah, I know a kid that goes there right now. It's not, I mean.
I mean, it's a military school. Like you're not in the military, but it's a military school. It still has the military man. Yeah, the military man.
Yeah, like you can't leave your freshman year, which I think is good. Keep the youngsters on campus. And then after that, if you do leave, you have to wear a uniform. Yeah, so I mean, people still know that you're...
Yeah, you still represent the military. Make sure you don't do nothing stupid. Yeah, I would say it probably keeps people in line too, right? I would think so.
Because everybody knows that you're from the Citadel, so like military and just the community at large, you're like, hey, what are you doing over there? Yeah, hey, why are you with those kids? Yeah, you fucking up over there? Better not be.
I'm gonna call your dad. Yeah. That's a smart thing to do, I guess. I just forgot about it that way.
Yeah, it makes sense, though. I was just like, yeah, fuck those guys. How prisons work? How prisons work?
That's how I always thought. That's what I always thought. That's like a good idea. I'm just gonna call this a high blood pressure medicine now.
Oh, yeah, you finally went to the doctor. Yeah. Good for you. Is it working?
Yeah, I think that's the best way to do that. It was like 142 over 80. Yeah, that's pretty high normally, but for me when I'm normally sitting at 160 over 100. That's a lot.
Yeah. My whole life is just on edge. So did you say that just now that you were drinking on blood pressure medicine? Yeah, I guess you're not supposed to do that.
I don't know. I mean, they shouldn't tell me not to. I mean, I still drink, but I don't drink enough to get drunk. I had like several mixed drinks, and I didn't get drunk, though, but I got super lightheaded to the point where I was like, I'm not drinking anymore, because I don't think something's going right.
Yeah. Like I don't drink mixed drinks that often anymore, but I will actually pour shit out. Oh, yeah. That's what I...
I never would have done that before, but I actually like taste something out. I'm like, that's too strong. I'll just like fucking get rid of it. I don't even care if I bought it.
I'm like, nope, that's not going inside me. That's too much fucking booze. And that's how, you know, weddings, the bartender's there just pour them up. Yeah, because they want you to go away so they can go home.
Yeah. They want you to get as fucked up as possible. But no, it was a good time, man. Good.
Speaking of, people to say hello to. Seth Scanlan. What's up Seth? It was kind of funny.
Brent, what did you call me or text me or something this week? And you were like, hey man, this artist from New York is reaching out and like, lacks a show and, you know, I looked at stuff up online. He's like, really good. He's like a real artist.
And I'm like, is it Seth Scanlan? And you're like, yeah, how did you know? I'm like, because it's the only artist I know in New York. Maybe one of like, two legit artists that I know personally.
It's always very awesome. Yeah. I mean, definitely look him up if you haven't. Yeah, just Google Seth Scanlan artwork.
It's amazing. But yeah, just wanted to say what's up to him. Kind of in my mind. I mean, he wrote it like two weeks ago.
I just now saw it. Yeah, yeah, because you don't look at the Facebook page. Yeah, I don't think either one of us do. Oh, I never do.
I never do. I don't have access to it at the moment. Oh, yeah. So me directly for the podcast post something on Twitter.
I've got that tied to my phone. And that was kind of our agreement at the beginning, like, you do the Facebook. I'll do the Twitter because otherwise it's too much social media for either one of us. Yeah, I don't think either one of us is very good with social media anyways.
That's why it will never be successful. Do we hire someone to take care of? Yeah, hire somebody to do it for us. Did you get anything this weekend or this weekend?
Yeah, actually went over to a buddy's place yesterday. You've watched this show on History Channel 4's and Fire. Yeah, they make knives and knives. And there's a newer one with Bill Goldberg where it's all chopping.
Have you seen that one? No. So they've made a course out of the chopping part. And the difference is you don't have to make your own knife.
You can bring a knife. This one else is made. But a lot of them make their own. Yeah.
It's awesome. Like just a course where they go through and cut stuff and chop through things. Really? Yeah.
Yeah. For sure. Chopping stuff. Exactly.
This is a guy from Michigan. I think it was. And if you're listening to Jason, I'm a fan. Please don't kill me.
But he looks like he might have ended a few people's lives. Like he was getting... Like they didn't even focus on the fact that in his like, you know how they always do like a little background video. He called himself like an unconscious knife thrower or something.
And he's like, what I mean by that is, basically I look at a target and I can hit it. And he was moving around a room and he was like, that spot. Just like five knives into it. And he's like, okay, how about that spot over there?
Like five knives into it. So, super soldier, anybody? Should somebody be watching this guy? He went through the course like a machine dude, like a Terminator.
He's like making like dips and moves like a boxer, like around obstacles. He's like, oh, it doesn't look like a person at all. Some people are just ready for the zombie apocalypse. They're so ready.
So ready. Man, if he isn't the leader of an army already right now. He's definitely a lieutenant of a militia. Yeah.
They know his name or they know his real name. They have him on several lists. His name's not Jason. There's no way.
You know what I mean? Like if he's in public, he's changed it. He's already got all the fatigues, but like the cool ones for like the tactical shit. Yeah.
Like there's spots for throwing stars built into his best. I'm ready. So, so. That guy.
Anyway, throwing stars seemed like the least effective throwing weapon, right? It does, but also effective. Just because there's more points. Yeah, so it's more likely to hit you, but at the same time, it's not killing you.
Yeah. Well, if you get it to me, it would hurt. It would hurt bad. Yeah.
If you're just like a regular dude wearing a shirt. Now, this is just as a guy who doesn't know anything about it and throws shit at shit in a garage and I don't even have like a target set up or anything. You just hit a wall. I try not to hit the wall.
Shut up, man. Terry's in your shot. I don't want to hear him. I do.
I do sometimes. It's like dark. So you're gonna have holes around the dartboard. Exactly.
So mostly I just lean two by fours against the wall and throw shit at that. And if I miss a little. No, yeah. You have a throwing eyes and axes, right?
Throw knives, hatches, and I've been to the flea market. So I have throwing stars. Yeah. They work.
Yeah. And as somebody who throws dumb shit in his garage, I will say I get it. Because four points better than one. Absolutely.
How many times you throw it just at the back end of it, dumb right off the wood. Oh, quite often. Yeah. Yeah.
The nicer throwing knives are really heavy. You really have to know what you're doing. And most of those clang against my garage floor all the time. I'm excited about our meet and greet coming up.
Hell yeah. Our meet and greet and joint birthday party. There's a... I don't even know what it's called.
Is it just called axe throwing? It's attached to the rusty bowl, which is a bar. I don't know the name of the axe throwing place. But yeah, it's like one of those indoor axe throwing things.
Yeah. It looks super fun and exciting. We're hoping that it doesn't get shut down before we make it. Yeah.
I'm hoping, man. Because it's got to be dangerous. How does the liability... There's also one you can bring it to your house on a trailer.
Really? Yeah. That's smart. But I don't know.
We're big enough we could do that. What? Start an axe throwing business? No.
To deliver the part. I don't know where we can put the trailer. Do it at work. Just park a lot.
Why not? No, I mean, maybe we should just start doing that. What? Like build a throwing wall on a trailer and then that's a business.
Yeah. Why not? Let's talk about that. We're gonna get some of our more industry friends on it.
Right on. Yeah. We'll do actually do stuff. No.
You never finished a story. No, I'm sorry. So my whole reason for bringing that up was dude had a forge. You actually got to found out a piece of rebar trying to...
I mean, really just try to taper it. Like get the little ringlets out of the rebar. And just trying to flatten it to a square on each side. Wow, it's hard.
Yeah. It's so hard. It's fun. It's super fun.
You sure you're getting a little hot enough? Yeah. Really sure. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, it's almost white hot. I mean, dude's forge was pretty cool. Yeah.
Like made it himself. I'm just saying the one yesterday you could totally do it. Steel pipe. You can use like just an electric blower.
And just... Oh, you know it's pushing enough more oxygen into it than a regular pipe. Yeah. That's what this dude was doing.
He's got a vented pipe that he has through concrete. And then some sort of like plaster and sand mixture. It's like... I don't know what you call that flashing.
I don't know. It's like the reflective part. Like the insulated part that goes inside the concrete is concrete absorbs heat. Yeah.
The plaster would reflect the heat. Probably some sort of fire resistant brick type material. Yeah. And just keep the heat in there instead of dissipating into the ground.
Right. Which I'm sure it still gets hot, hot on the ground. Yeah, I assume so. I don't know.
He melts all kinds of stuff in there. And I don't know what... I always want to make my... What do you call it when they like melt metal down?
Smelting? Yeah. That's why I want to forge my backyard so I can like melt down copper and make copper blocks. Copper blocks?
From scrap wire. Why do you want to make copper blocks? Because instead of like $.29 a pound you get like $3 a pound. Really?
Yeah. That makes sense. Ignites. You're ignorant.
You're ignorant. I'm not gonna do that. I can make it look like my blood pressure is alive. Yeah.
So how do you think the medication is working other than the lightheadedness? It's good. Yeah? Not as sweaty?
Today I am but I mean. I'll just do it all. It's sweating a notch. Yeah, no during the weekend not nearly as bad.
It's weird right. A lot less problems. A lot less problems. A lot fewer problems with sweating.
Yeah, I don't feel that my face is going to explode. Don't feel a lot. Yeah. But also like it.
Just aren't interested in anything anymore. Mm-hmm. I'm kidding. No man.
It's a medication I need for sure. What were we talking about today man? Oh man, what aren't we talking about today? I'm talking about government conspiracies.
So many conspiracies. Corporations, conspiracies. Don't lie, when I said I wanted to talk about water, were you like, what the fuck? No, but I honestly thought you meant fluoride.
Really? Which isn't, we're gonna talk a little bit about that on the end of this thing, but it's not the main focus. That's not even really what I was into. No, and then as I looked into it, I was like, oh, there's a lot more here than I thought originally.
So initially, what I wanted to look into it was, did you ever see the big short? Yeah. Then how they talk about at the end? Yeah, if you haven't seen it, it's basically the housing bubble that the housing bubble crash for the most part and why everybody sucks.
But at the end of it, one of the most brilliant people who initially caught the government, basically, lying to all of us, invested in water. Yeah. Like across the board, that's all he invested in. I'm like, that's always kind of stuck with me.
Like, why did he do that? What does he know? Well, let's start with the basic statistics. OK.
Human body, 65 to 75% order. So most people say. 65 to 75? I've heard mixed things about a certain percentage, but 65 is, I think, pretty much what most people go with.
I was going to say 10% is a lot of variation. Yeah. Unless you're talking about after a drink. No, I'm thinking maybe the entire world water-wise.
Oh. The world is 70%. I mean, I must make this do it. The world is 70% water.
It's like 65%. Oh, OK. So we need water to live, obviously. So if 70% of the water, 70% of the world is water.
Only 2.5% of that water is fresh water. Whoa. And then on top of that, only 1% of that 2.5% is easily accessed. The rest is locked in ice caps, underground.
So that 1% we're talking about is lakes, pretty much. Lakes and streams and aquifers. Or hoarded by underground lizard people. Yeah.
The easy stuff to get to, not the ones that not sufferschipping off to Mars or any of that. Yeah. Shh. Stop talking about that.
Cool thing about being in America is the Great Lakes. That's 20% of the world's freshwater. Is it really? Yes.
That's kind of cool. Yeah, because I'm having pretty set for freshwater if we need it. I mean, but then again, it's right there by Flumishian. They're just poisoned and shit out of all that, aren't they?
Yeah. Isn't that weird? I never looked into why other than just cost. So you know about the Flumishian thing, right?
Yeah. Obviously. I just brought it up. So for those of you who don't know, their water supply used to be the Great Lakes.
Yes. Was it like Superior? It was like Michigan, one of them, obviously. And they use that as the primary source.
Well, then it was much cheaper to get their water from, I think it's like Flint Creek or something like some sort of local water source. But then all of those lines were made of, like all those service lines are made of lead pipe. Yeah. What in the fuck?
Like, is that a recent discovery? Supposedly, I think 2012 is when they finally deemed it safe again. Oh, it's not safe. No, no.
There are still high levels of stuff, but they're saying it's safe to use now. Safe to splash on your face, but not to drink. They'll say you should use bottled water for drinking, but you can use this for other stuff. Now, imagine that.
Your water's so bad. It's like, oh, we fucked up, guys. Listen, you have to buy water because we fucked up. Yeah.
And initially, that's what they were told is do not drink, prepare food in or bathe in this water. Fuck you. I don't care. Who tells me now?
Unless I go to like your fancy space age water treatment facility and I saw you put in some new pipes and shit, I'm not drinking or bathing in that. They're going through replacing the piping. Yeah. But they haven't replaced all of it, but they replaced enough of it, air quotes, to where the levels are safe enough to bathe with, I guess.
Oh, shit. Just don't have your mouth. You bathe your eyes. Put your plugs in.
Cover your bottle. And plug your nose. Yeah. So don't forget the corners of your eyes.
Plug those. And then on top of that, you got fracking, which is causing all kinds of problems with water, you know, the flammable water up in... What? Yeah.
You know what fracking is? Yeah, no fracking is. So, you know, there's some explosions off to get the natural gas out. Well, it's causing it to mix with some of the underground aquifers, where people's water come from.
So, like, they can pour glass of water in its flammable. Whoa, what? Yeah. We're just great at destroying everything.
Oh, wait, what is it? Yeah, 2.5% of the water. There's the only water on earth we can drink. Dude.
So what about desalination? I don't know why that's not a thing yet. I think it's too much energy. I think it is too much energy.
It's got to be. They can make giant evaporation farms out in the desert. True. It's pretty damn simple, I would think.
I would think so too. I don't know, man. Maybe it's just too much to pump the water out into the desert. It costs too much?
Yeah, to pump the water there. Yeah. I don't know. It does cost too much.
You know what else costs too much? Bottle water. Well, what I want to know is out of that fresh water, that 1% who owns it. Yeah, it's a weird thing.
Right? Like, do corporations on it? Do government own it? Like, how are people allowed to even bottle this shit?
So, can I go to bottle water in my backyard? You could if you wanted to, I guess. You have to... The Nestle Corporation is large and evil.
I think most large corporations are large and somewhat evil. I guess you kind of have to be evil, right? Yeah, I mean, you don't get large by being... I almost said like the church, but...
Oh. We're going to skirt that issue at the moment. That's not what this episode is about. So, yeah, I mean, most of these bottled companies, it's just filter tap water, right?
A lot of it is, but there are aquifers. Yeah, let's go to the local aquifers. So, when I started looking into it, I'm like, well, what do they really own? They own a bottling plant.
Most of its IP, right? Of the natural spring water in the world. It started with perrier. I think it was in the 80s, actually.
They bought perrier and they bought a bunch of French and Italian aquifers. Yes. And then they bought up a bunch of US. And down in Florida.
Yeah. It's crazy because I was looking up this Nestle stuff as well. Like, in different states, they sell different bottles. It's all automatically, but like from local aquifers.
It's like mountain light water or something like that. Yeah, ice mountain in Michigan. Yeah. Which is funny.
And you would never hear that here in Charleston, but here we have, um, it's Deer Park. We have Deer Park, which is Florida and I think Georgia. There's like one other aquifers that Deer Park is. Yeah, I can't hear.
And then there's another one in like New Jersey. But there's a big one out west. But we get like two or three different. Right.
And they're generally regional. They're all by Nestle. They're all by Nestle. What other company could you sell a competition to yourself and somehow some profit off it?
I don't know. It's weird. Until there were these water crises like Flint, Michigan or the drought in California, etc. in the United States.
Unfortunately for our narrow worldviews, our lives are too easy and it doesn't make sense to us that this is a problem. Do you understand? No, it's a problem. Exactly.
Good one. You know what I'm saying? It's too easy. I mean, we can go.
Our water is safe anyway. Barring, fluoride, conversation. The water out of the tab is safe anyway. Yeah.
I hate. I mean, sorry. First world country. It's one of the greatest countries in the world.
And for the most part, our water is safe that we drink if you're near a town that provides it for you. Here's the fucked up thing. You would think that it's a basic human right. Yes.
You remember Obama phone as an example. It's a basic right. Everyone has a phone. It's a basic right.
Obama says it's- Now we're getting a pay phone so now we're going to offer people free something. Yes. Because people have the right to communicate. They're trying to say the same with the internet.
They call police if it's an emergency. They have the right to, yeah, same thing with the internet. Like you have the right to learn. You have the right to say knowledge is everyone else.
Right education. But water? Yeah. I mean, I don't know.
That was a large corporate overlord I might not think so. Yeah, there's a meme that has been around for a long time from the CEO from Nestle who's actually not CEO anymore. It was a guy who's the CEO up until about 2008. Well, he was the CEO of CFO.
I don't know. That was CFO. He's the one that said some dumb things and he's backpedaled. But usually- We know what you mean because they're the ones who can turn about the money.
Right. So there's a meme about them not saying that water is human right. Now here's the fucked up thing. So that was actually taken out of context and I'm not defending Nestle by any means.
But that particular conversation wasn't nearly as sinister as what was actually going to happen. So it actually was declassified as human right like in 2018. I don't remember who by World Health Organization. No, it was a world water.
It is no longer. No, it's not classified as a right as a need. So that's a problem. I mean, I can see that as a need versus a right.
So let's classify. Let's clarify this. Human right means it needs to be provided as cheaply and as easily as fucking air. Like, yeah, you have a right to clean water.
I think so. I think everyone has a right to clean water. I mean, that's like the most basic shit. You just read off a bunch of statistics about the world's made of it, we're made of it.
We need it to survive. There's not that much of it. We need to preserve what we have and help each other have access to it. Well, of course, man fucking, you know that Nestle owns like 50% of the food in the world.
Really? I was trying to look up a statistic of how much of the fresh water is owned by corporation. I couldn't find a number. They own most of it.
But yeah, I could imagine. Because the thing is, if the water consumed in the world, they own 10% of it. Really? Yes.
That's a lot of people. A lot. For something everyone has to have. Yeah, and I'm not talking 10% of the bottled water.
No, you're talking about it. They own 10% of the water consumed by people, which is fucking crazy. Yeah, it's too much. So what they'll do is they'll buy this water, they'll buy up a land where you can get the water and then they'll sell it back to you.
Yes. Which is fucked. And the one that are already in government property, like already in national or state parks. No, that's not protected either.
That's not protected either. No. So when California was going through the drought, Nestle drained 39 million gallons of water out of national parks in California and sold it back to them. So I got a quick question for you.
So bottled water, right? It cost $1.00 for cheap bottled water. So I mean, they must as far as taxes and everything. I mean, they must pay probably almost $1.00 in taxes per bottle, right, Dan?
No, not shit, man. They barely pay for the water in general. So Michigan is, so Ice Mountain, the company that they own in Michigan, sounds refreshing. It is refreshing.
I mean, people who can't drink the tap water sounds. Right. It's pretty great. So another neat trick that people with money do is they go into areas that are depressed or developing and they're like, hey, I bet you want some jobs up in there.
Oh, yeah. You want this factory? You want this sweet factory? Oh, hell yeah, we do Nestle.
What do we have to do? Oh, nothing much, man. Just basically give us your water. And they're like, huh?
We're going to either buy or lease forever. It's basically like buying access to your water for $200 a year. The aquifers that they have access to in Michigan, they pay $200 a year for it. Do you understand?
Yeah. You know why? Because they're like, hey, man, don't worry about it. We're going to provide looking jobs for all you guys forever because of our big bottling.
We're not going to give you any water for Flynn, where everything's fucked right now. It's kind of like what Walmart does, isn't it? Just coming to a town and build a big Walmart, promising of jobs, oh, but they're all shit jobs and they pay nothing and there's no benefits or stock shares. I don't know if I want to take Walmart just yet, but make everything else around town close I'm that's another one of those that I'm just afraid to look too far into.
Yeah, I don't I mean you can't even find my mom pop water and I'm working. My mom pop water. Did you ever see those like outhouse waters? Yes, pickle-le-le was making those where it's just I mean the dumbest marketing campaign of all time.
But in all honesty, that's what tap water is. Yes, it is. But yeah, we just don't want to think about it when we're drinking it. Right.
It was literally labeled outhouse water was a label of the of the it was like. I'm going to give you two glass of water. 100% of the water. One is the glass in my left hand is you know fucking glacier ice that I melted this morning.
I'm all right. Shit, shit water. This is shit water. Which one do you want?
We filtered it. Put chemicals in it. Made it good to drink. Drink it.
You can visit I could visibly take them both out of the tap like a kid saying, oh that drinking fountain has cuties. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, but exactly. It actually does have cuties.
We got it out with chlorine though. Yeah, drink the chlorine kids. Probably safer than that water. Do you remember drinking out of a hose from like well water as a kid?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, it had a very good taste. Was it the metal in the tip of the hose that gave that taste or was the actual metal. It was the metallic taste of the or was it the the pole going down for the well that actually pulled up the water and going through the motor and pumping all that.
Well, I mean, I grew up with well water. So it's something refreshing about well water and hot summer day. Dude, like what just was the point is it wasn't just from the hose. Like that's what our house had.
Oh, yeah. Like if you ever had to have like the salt pellets for yourself to soften your water, you didn't even know about that shit. You know, city kid. We didn't have what a shower was, but we did have it for everything else.
Yeah, for watching a close. So you had to get the salt pellets, the mortons, the big ass bags. You don't know shit, bro. I don't know.
That's where I drink out the hose. Man, I'm gonna help my dad install the well though. So I know how to do it if you're an anyone. He does feel different, which is weird.
Like if you like bathed in water that's been softened by water softener, it feels kind of slick. Yeah, like it doesn't get off you. Yeah. See, that's how people they grew up with it versus didn't like they just want to keep rinsing.
It's not going to help. You're done. Yeah. Just go down and you go from but anyway, you go from software to the hard water or from soft water to like city water that doesn't have so much salt in it.
Like it like hurts. Like, yeah, like it feels like you're scraping your skin off like, Oh shit, why is this? It's really odd. It's hard, man.
It is. But it is refreshing. I didn't like drinking water at other people's houses because you get used to the impurities in the water underneath your house. I think it's drinking out of the people's glasses was always weird.
Like you ever go to friends house and drink glass and be like, what the fuck is wrong? These people smell. Yeah, every time. It could be the same brand.
Well, a lot of that was the smell too. You know, like other people's houses always smell their food. Yeah, I think it has to be what it is, right? And stuff always stays weird at friends houses.
Every single time. I'm getting used to your scent now, Dan. Thanks. That's gross.
So Nestle is a bunch of dickheads, right? Yeah, pretty much. So you know about the thing that they did in Africa, and this is probably one of the most heinous crimes of all time. I mean, do they take the only clean water source and cover it with a factory and then sold to water to the African government?
I mean, they do that shit every day. Strap in. So in the 70s, I don't know if you've heard about this, there's a huge boycott on Nestle and a huge lawsuit in like 1976 that they ended up winning, which I don't understand how anybody expected to win anyway. So here's what happened.
They make water early. They bought a water, but that's a relatively new thing. Yeah. 70s right when they started buying it like a pair of hair.
Yeah, I think that was a little bit later. But they've always been a huge food company, candy bars, mac and cheese, like all kinds of stuff, man. Cheetos. Yeah.
I was looking through like a list of stuff that we actually have in the house and I'm like, okay, that's Nestle. That's Nestle. That's Nestle. There was about four things, which I was surprised about, but I can't eat a lot of packaged food anymore.
So let's get down on the outside intervention. A huge thing that they produce is baby food, in particular, formula. So in lesser developed countries, such as Africa, they were accused of getting this, killing babies essentially because they were giving out, so it's not free, okay? Formula is not free.
It's expensive. They have to make it. As is. Water's expensive.
But so a lot of people are undernourished in Africa, but they would basically hand out pamphlets to women in hospitals giving birth, saying like, you know, how important it is to make sure your baby is nourished well enough. And you know, a little bit of fear mongering, which, you know, that's not that bad. But get this out of the kindness of their hearts. Nestle started giving away their product.