EPISODE · Jul 31, 2025 · 1H 3M
We Are Family: Kari Payne and Scott Bishop Falcone on LGBTQ+ Family Travel
Nobody tells you about the math.Not the money math. The other math.The one where you're standing in a hotel lobby with your kids, scanning the room, calculating how visible you are. Whether the front desk person clocked your family structure. Whether this is going to be one of the easy places or one of the hard ones.Kari Payne and Scott Bishop Falcone know that math by heart.In this episode, two of the most thoughtful voices in LGBTQ+ family travel get into what it actually looks like to navigate the world with kids when your family doesn't match the one in the brochure.Not the sanitized version. The real one.The destinations that genuinely welcome queer families — not just tolerate them with a tight smile…The ones that sound welcoming until you arrive and realize the welcome was for a different kind of family…How to have age-appropriate conversations with your kids about safety and identity while traveling — without scaring them or lying to them…And the moments — because there will be moments — when the world reminds you that your family is still considered political in some places. Even at a beach resort. Even on a Tuesday.We also get into the practical stuff. How to research destinations as a queer family. What questions to ask before you book. What to do when something goes wrong.Kari and Scott bring warmth, humor, and the kind of hard-won wisdom you only get from actually doing this — not theorizing about it.Whether you're a queer parent, planning to be, or traveling with chosen family… this conversation doesn't get nearly enough airtime.And your family deserves better than a brochure that wasn't made for you.
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