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EPISODE · Aug 31, 2026 · 26 MIN

We Are Made for This: Closing Season One with Emotions as Messengers

from The Church We Dream Of · host Kia Gutierrez

In the Season One finale of The Church We Dream Of, host Kia Gutiérrez reads from the closing chapter of her book, Emotions as Messengers. The episode makes a clear case: emotional health is the map back to identity, purpose, and healthy connection, both at home and in the church.Kia recaps the book's three-part framework that's anchored the season:The Messenger — what emotions are and how they function in the bodyThe Message — the seven primary emotions and what each one theologically communicatesThe Mission — sitting with emotion, managing the gap, and practicing forgiveness, boundary setting, and reconciliationFrom there, she reads the chapter's central argument: emotional health isn't a self-help detour from faith. It's the real work of becoming people who can be trusted with the ministry of reconciliation.The hypocrisy the world can already feel. Speaking as both minister and therapist, Kia names the gap she's witnessed and lived between preaching connection and practicing management. People aren't unwilling to draw near to Jesus because of bad theology. They're watching the distance between what's claimed and what's lived.Healing over performance. The church's credibility depends on trading the performance of being a savior for the slower, harder work of being healed.Small is not a consolation prize. Taking emotional health seriously changes the shape of church itself. Kia argues for slower timelines and smaller, deeper community, pointing out that Jesus had twelve disciples and one ministry. Strong small group culture isn't optional. It's the foundation.Pace as theology. Healing is embodied and relational, not resolved by reading a book. Kia draws a line to the Israelites' forty years in the desert as time spent getting to know God, not a delay, and invites listeners to hold their own healing on an unhurried timeline.A full year ahead. Season Two will spend an entire year with emotions as messengers rather than moving to a new topic, treating transformation as something that takes sustained time.21 episodes, six guests, and a podcast that grew from a nervous first Substack-only post to a show now ranking in the top 20% of all podcasts on Spotify. Listener favorites include the pilot episode, The Language of Trauma, Jesus Remembers with Christine Luxam, and Back to Eden, a conversation with Kia's husband on marriage and conflict.Emotions as Messengers includes a seventeen-session study guide, designed for individuals, couples, small groups, or church leadership teams.Where have you confused managing your emotions with actually feeling and stewarding them?What would it look like for your church or small group to slow down enough to build real relational depth?Looking back ten years, what dreams has God already brought to fruition?Season Two begins soon, dedicated to a full year of going deeper into emotions as messengers, scripture, and emotionally healthy church communities. Subscribe so you don't miss the first episode.Subscribe, leave a review, and join us for Season Two.Keywords: Christian emotional health, trauma-informed church, faith-based therapy, church healing journey, emotions as messengers, faith and emotions, shame in the church, American church transformation, Christian community, church we dream of podcastEpisode OverviewKey ThemesA Look Back at Season OneA Note on the BookReflection QuestionsWhat's Next

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