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EPISODE · Mar 24, 2025 · 49 MIN

We Audited 100+ B2B Websites – Here's What We Learned (with Talia Wolf)

from The Dave Gerhardt Show (from Exit Five) · host Exit Five

#230: Messaging | In this episode, Matt sits down with Talia Wolf, founder and CEO of GetUplift, to unpack what’s really wrong with most B2B websites – and how to fix it. After reviewing 100+ member-submitted sites from the Exit Five community, Talia shares what she sees over and over again: messaging that’s too focused on the product, poor design flow, and a lack of real customer understanding.Matt and Talia cover:Why most B2B sites focus too much on features and not enough on buyer emotionHow to use emotional targeting and customer research to write copy that convertsThe biggest design mistakes B2B marketers are making (and how to fix them)How to get stakeholder buy-in for website changesWhy great websites start with strong product marketingTimestamps(00:00) - – Intro to Talia (02:04) - – Why most B2B websites fail to convert (04:30) - – The common thread across 100+ website reviews from Exit Five members (07:15) - – Why focusing on features instead of emotion kills conversions (10:03) - – What is emotional targeting (and how to actually use it)? (13:18) - – The power of customer research in website optimization (16:40) - – How to apply emotional triggers to your homepage copy (20:09) - – Mistakes B2B companies make with above-the-fold content (23:11) - – Why you should write copy before designing the site (26:28) - – Structuring your site around buyer intent and behavior (29:45) - – How to get internal buy-in for messaging and UX changes (33:02) - – The difference between product marketing and “just copywriting” (36:18) - – The role of hierarchy, visual flow, and CTA placement (39:44) - – When to simplify and when to educate on B2B websites (43:06) - – Final takeaways and practical steps to start improving your site Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.Webflow - A website platform built for the agentic web, letting modern marketing teams build fully custom sites that perform in AI search with no developer needed. Learn more at webflow.com/for/exitfive.Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.Compound Growth Marketing - A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

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