“We can do hard things” | Glennon Doyle

from Trash Talk: Where Bad Advice + Cliches Get Taken Out · host Erin Thomas + Erica Breuer

“We can do hard things.” Cute. Catchy. But somewhere along the way, it shape-shifted from a comforting reminder into a borderline threat.This conversation starts with Glennon Doyle’s cultural footprint: her phrase, her storytelling style, and why her work landed so strongly in a moment when everyone was already maxed out. From here, Erica and Erin explore how their definition of “hard things” has evolved to include something less celebrated: ease. And as we approach the end of our “All the Gurus” series, this conversation also examines what we want and need from the people we allow to shape us.The Trash Talk HotlineTell us about a cliche that bothers you every time you hear it.Leave a message on the Trash Talk hotline at (719) 819-2175—your voice could end up in a future episode.And while you’re at it, do us a solid: subscribe, drop a review, and share this episode with your fellow Trashies. Other Links & ResourcesLibro.fm is an audiobook platform that lets you listen to great books while supporting your favorite independent bookstore.Get three audiobooks for the price of one with a new membership: Use code TRASHTALKhttps://libro.fm/membershipFollow Erica Breuer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericabreuer/Follow Erin Thomas: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iamerinthomas/Visit Trash Talk Website: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2451264

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