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EPISODE · Mar 16, 2026 · 32 MIN

"We Can't Verify a Black Box" — What 22 Years of GHG Verification Reveals | Derek Markolf

from Carbon Accounting and Management Podcast · host Aaron Stainthorp

Derek Markolf spent 22 years at LRQA leading GHG verifications across manufacturing, agriculture, energy, and nearly every other sector. Now he runs his independent verification practice while slow-traveling the world with his wife — conducting verifications remotely from wherever they happen to be living that month. In this conversation, Derek shares what two decades of looking inside other organizations' GHG inventories actually teaches you — the patterns that show up everywhere, the mistakes that keep getting made, and the emerging issues that practitioners need to get ahead of right now. We cover: → Why the smallest sources are the biggest pain — and why this surprises first-time reporters every time → The "levers" problem: why spend-based and industry-average data removes your ability to show real emissions reductions → Base year recalculation — the most under-enforced GHG Protocol requirement, and why verifiers are giving it a lot more attention now that companies are nearing their target years → What inventory management plans need to contain to survive staff turnover → Why AI-assisted tools are creating a new challenge for verifiers: "We can't verify a black box" → What separates organizations that build solid, verification-ready inventories from those that struggle — and why it almost always starts with leadership commitment.   🎙️ Carbon Management & Accounting Podcast | New episodes every other Tuesday Sponsored by North Star Carbon & Impact — northstarcarbon.com

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