I'm a pussy 20-21 Can you do something for me? Can you hit a little rich for me? 21 Can you do something for me? Drop some bars to my pussy 21 Can you do something for me?
Can you talk to the ops for me? 21 Be up there, one and one, do your thing Be up there, two and one Dimes in the watch, this shit cost a lot Never snoutings in the watch This shit cost a lot Dimes in the watch, this shit cost a lot Okay Nice, welcome to the live show We'll see you later Yeah, you're about to find it out You actually find it out about her You came in angry as fuck What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Today I'm coming up Mr.
Kissing me off Okay I'm ready I hope so We'll wait no Welcome to with all due respect This is Chef And as always When listening to our podcast Be sure to tell your friends about the podcast Write a message to us on Apple Podcast I'll read it for you in a minute But you know, go ahead and share it And it's been a minute since we've got it But we're here and it is episode 179 It's part of the verb Is that the verb for that? It is It's not a podcast It's a podcast You said you didn't want this to be a three-hour episode, but you want to know if it's potting or casting I mean, I'm here for it You know, you love it Three hour fucking Three hour event Three hour event Hey boy, my favorite What would a white voice? What up? Five thousand, that's off Florida Five thousand, that's off Florida I'll have it to your camera, man You take your clothes off Yeah, they know When you want And somebody got static clean Somebody got static clean Oh man Wait, you want to see my camera for real?
Oh man What's going on? He's left I'm not your shirt Right, I think it's Is everybody mad? No I don't know what happened I'll do it just click it on and click it back on You're not even mad for me I still don't see it I see It's sweet in a sweet plate You just send a video to 21 Why don't you do something funny? Alright, well, like it's been a minute How's everybody been since we've been I've been in two months, I think Six months It's your microphone Chef, is this the static you want?
That was me? Yeah, your traffic Not time for the wedding calls in us Right, get your microphone microphone Didn't you know Brother in Love by you like a Rob Transment microphone? Yeah, it is It's a hard in the house tonight Good Definitely gonna be a glory Right I got it, but I don't know what happens to my home You might have listened to this track Or what was it? By a ham sandwich?
It was just a American dream? It's not like a dream you had after you made a ham sandwich Like you made that up? You all have never seen the Jackson's American dream? I was gonna tell you that.
I don't remember That's one way hard So this is when the Jacks and Five were coming into the studio This one, they got to the studio portion, right? So Smokey was actually in the studio like saying which tracks were good and which tracks were not good And he had another group that was up there singing in tracks In the way that's Smokey In the way that's Smokey With front of a last studio audience, they doing the survey and whatever of the previews He would say, would you rather buy this single Or have a ham sandwich And that was the choice and if they chose a ham sandwich was a trash track and if they chose about a single It was a good single anyway keep it a song that was come on I haven't seen them on the fucking shit. Is that when Jason Weaver plays a young? Yes, yes Probably 2008 and a bit like It's a rootsish I I can't remember want to some homecomings drank some liquor's watched black Panther Yeah, but somebody brought up Anthony Bourdain yesterday and I do miss Anthony Bourdain and it just makes me well just Strings my argument about how this new generation then have like sweet shit Like there never be another Anthony Bourdain just like they don't have like an Oprah show and Oprah's favorite things Like that was always something people have like maybe one day I go on Oprah be on the Oprah show when she's having a favorite Things and giving shit away is like I think it's gonna be up to the Ark Kelly era Like I never be like another arc of the era.
It's just a whole bunch of sweet shit that I like these young kids Don't know shit about go back for them But shit how's y'all shit? I got a remark and I'm just Anthony Bourdain because I'm gonna focus enjoy this simple thing in life man like it is show was all about I'm drinking in a country I've never been to we fucking find it's how you love this on my feet Some sunglasses like chillin like he really didn't do anything to fucking extravagant. He just like ate good drink good and live life Yeah Me I don't really get this shit, you know, I'm gonna pass on this shit Nothing really crazy happened. I did cut my hair off if you can't tell so Yeah, what's up with that?
I mean you had a look going on I think I'm immediately going back. I'm immediately going back I mean ever so I mean, you know like women like cut their hair off at any given time, right? They just like say fuck it whatever they're gonna do they're gonna cut their hair off and I never understood that shit I always thought I'm a bad shit crazy until I grew my hair and it's just an impulse like you just like what you know I should cut all my fucking hair off and that's exactly what I did you're trying to basically just let people know you're in that Yeah, basically and I can come here off whenever I got one or two and I really just like Wouldn't like I woke up. I literally just walking in a bathroom.
So let me just cut this off We got a we got a question from the crowd somebody had asked do you die your shit because the top was black But you have like prominent grades elsewhere you guys looking at my hair right now. This is my hair I haven't done anything to it since Since I cut it. This is my natural grape pattern. I'm pretty on the sides and gray on the beard I'm black on top of my hair and that's what I said I was like I mean wood doesn't really strike me a as a person to die his shit But be why we just got a top and not the rest like it's great Otherwise, so you know like he was like that she looks stupid like that Like why would it do that shit and look like that on purpose and people a lot of people don't have gray hair So they don't know how gray hairs work you can die a couple of gray hairs But you can't die like gray hair gray hair if you got a hair like like my beard in my side Like this is a lot of great like you can't die this shit all black You know, I'm saying like that's a lot a lot a lot of fucking die Right right and even still like the dias are where often 48 hours and then they start peeking through and it does Gray hair also you need to condition all the time because gray hairs do what they want to do.
They don't act like black hair Jim Brown Jim Brown is still fucking with the people No I Like Oh No, we're just trying to feel dead it but can we just hear about you by face you can move on I was trying to avoid that but okay Yeah, so for homecoming before homecoming we can came up my boy hit me up and was like man You want them ducks? I'm like, you know, be honest. I would really think about getting him like it wasn't really on my radar But I was like, you know, we're offering you know, I'm down anyway. Yeah, there's 180.
You know I'm saying My boy works for Mikey But it does is you just hit the hook up, you know saying like he just the plug So he We send the 180 so I send the 180 wherever and then he's like, hey other shoes too. So I was like, you know My wife was looking at the panda dance. I was like let me get those To get the chris Scott's for like five minutes. I was like, you know, I don't get them now You know saying but after Christmas, I mean it's you up because that's a great deal, you know So everything sounded like I was coming up roads is like I got a plug feeling really smug and good about myself So anyway Fast forward to homecoming I'm driving He's telling me he's like, yeah, you don't get the shoes that week, but he's still never hit me up about the shoes come like, you know Thursday, I'm driving Tahass.
He says boy lives in Gainesville. I'm an old cow and I'm like, you know, say I'm gonna animal Calla, let me go by just get the shoes from old boy. He was like, oh the shoes ain't here yet I'm like what you mean the shoes on here? Yeah, he's like oh the shoes will get here probably Like late on Friday, so you could probably get from a malsari He'll talk to Tahass and get from a standard morning or whatever.
I was like man That's annoying cuz I really wanted to wear them on Friday. I don't want to be like everybody else wearing them shit The game but whatever so anyway, they call me like it in the morning. I get up and I meet some lady like some older woman And she's like um, she said we need at the gas station to give me the box of shoes She dip immediately. I mean open a box that she just like here scoot and like alright alright It's whatever so the first thing I look at is the box the boxes are red box of Nike on it Now all the boxes for the ducks have yard runners But my boy told me in advance.
He's like man if you want the yard runners box You gotta wait a week or so I mean I don't look like about a box I just what shoes knows and like I don't even fuck about a box of school. I think ran a box Is it they ran a box is only okay? Like you run out of boxes anyway like like you didn't run out of boxes anyway, so open so I'm driving back to the hotel Open the box, you know like oh yeah, you just thought you could you know one time for my connect I take pictures of them I put it on my Instagram story Niggas like I hate nigga man. I wish I could have got there man.
I didn't get a man you see what king I mean You Was on top of the world I was like this has been a wonderful homecoming game that's my and I got my shoes Just don't need a lot of things. I mean I know this is the last scene call it like a J But I think it might be in person. I don't know like it's kept on driving Next thing you know the home girl. She's not my doctor sends me a message and she like Put those down put that picture down sweetie.
That's right. I was like this please. It's real You know saying like you're a real ass sneakers I mean, I know that we brag different spacing is kind of off but niggas do you What? I was like I was like nine I think these are real she's like now now shit.
I got the real ones I'm gonna send you a picture right away, but she said me get the picture of the real ones and they were marketing We different there was a few things the stitching the real ones have orange stitching at the bottom The the last scene collect is a C. It's not a J and then we brag different They don't do no double spacing there is no pause or period in that we brag different is just a statement at the end Which I had a comment as something kind of Like we brag different Disimable Yeah Is your homeboy who sold you these shoes to your homeboy? And it didn't sound easy to homeboy. So here's the thing and this is where I missed up and this is this thing is my friend I got a You play you play you play you play you play you play you play you play you play you play you play you play your brother He's really like mother Saxophone about wedding and he's like a professional saxophone player.
He's like we're over now and she's a good guy So I figured he was connected because he's in the music industry And that's why I was like this is a real connection But then I dug deeper he was like well the plug is my either Sigma as well as I am a Catholic he's a Sigma and he He said was a Sigma line brother like that's not just what I thought it was gonna be and then he was like It's his homeboy is in the NBA. I thought you said I thought you said you'll work for Nike And he's like nah You might be affiliated. I was like how's he like you feel you like he plays for Oklahoma City Thunder. I was like what Megan He's running like a fugaz she racquet Anyway, it ain't right the nigga.
I was like he called after I told me to put the picture down I call him and he's like man saw bad dog. I was like what so you got their fake suicide man So that's all the picture. I was about to call you and tell you to leave that cuz I'm shit this way I was like what but he never called you No, no, no, it all just happened within like five minutes. It's like a five minute time span or whatever But he never called you your doctor called you but he didn't call it she called me she was I posted it basically She posted like she called me seconds after I posted it she's sneaker here or they were just like a man.
She knew so So the sneaker head but she also got the shoes from a story the week before they said you directly or listen to your boy first It's sent to my boy and then he never can she's my boy. It's my boy's line brother And then his line brothers auntie gave him the gas and nobody looked at the shoes I don't think any like that's the thing. I think you do look at the shoe But you know it was a you gotta look at the shoe who doesn't look at the shoes either not my shoes They're new shoes. I'm gonna open the box.
I'm gonna put them on But I'm gonna look at the shoes no this nigga this nigga put the shoes because this is thing I got all my money back because I paid for the dump I paid for those like the dump for my wife and then the shoes for my Stuff and he gave me all the money back. I'm but he came to the hotel to get the fake shoes from and he had on the fake shoes He's like man, I'm gonna have to just eat this because I mean but I don't think he was gonna be able to tell I was like thing is this I think it's probably wouldn't be able to tell No, no, no, here's my thing I don't think they'd be able to tell like this weekend or any other weekend that year It was gonna tell homecoming we can't because they're gonna wear them you put the shoes on you put the shoes on And your doctor called you within five minutes and told you they was fake what the fuck you make sure you think that people not gonna get up I took a picture of shoes like I was like back to the picture that she was like a close-up picture So you're saying it's not as long as you're in motion nobody can See I'm saying I'm saying that you can't wear it to the night party you can't wear it to the day party I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I country that you are a citizen of. Obviously you're not doing you're not living your life right. Obviously you're doing something not supposed to do if you got to call somebody else for protection.
I ain't nobody I don't have no money and I had to call nobody for no protection in your state in the union. So obviously you have some bucksh it. What did you think was going to happen? You make a good point about having to call in for me because but I think that's a a hip hop thing and hip hop is trying to self-destruct because what kind of shit is it where you have to like like they got a man who got killed P&B rock or we got killed in LA.
They said he didn't check in. I'm like you can't go get a waffle and they got to call somebody. That's some gang that's some gang shit. That's some organized crime shit.
That's like protection from like the mafia which is not really protection. It's just paying niggas off so you don't get robbed or killed which is goofy. Like that's why this shit happens every month because there's infrastructure in place that isn't positive. This shit is kind of set up for niggas to fail in my opinion.
But you know I mean I could be wrong maybe shit comes out next week maybe they won't be killed in November or November or be a moratorium or something but I doubt it like there's always something. Yeah that's the sizzle. There's no fake what's the thing without the sizzle. It's like taking pledge and out of return to the sizzle.
That's the sizzle. That's the product. You can't take that out the product. So you think the violence is the product like you have to infuse the violence into the hip hop.
Yes. People we're here for the violence. That's why people love it because they get to watch us kill each other and be violent and be reckless and be provocative and they can go back to their neighborhood and they go watch it like it's on TV. But we don't get it.
Hell we'll live that fucking life. There are niggas that they mama and daddy make six figures. They work good jobs and they become rappers and they go become gang affiliated. Why did you do that?
You're my daddy already made your money. Why did you do that? But what's ill about it like so we get to it later. When I looked at the best rap album nominees none of these are violent.
None of the albums were like trappy or drilly like you know what I'm saying like it was like Jack Hardlow it was k.dot you know what I'm saying it was a thing future. It's not a future. It's a future. You know what I'm saying like it was people that don't even fit into the job.
I would even venture to say these people are the highest earners in hip hop. It's not necessarily none of these niggas they got killed that we never heard of. You know what I'm saying? That's the exception.
I think the niggas are exceptional and violent. I think they made fun of club music. So it's like I think they need to change their minds. It is something deeper to Jay just to point.
I mean it's deeper than ego because then you have to get into the root cause of that where does that come from and security where does that come from. I mean you go with delve deeper. I mean you don't have time for that conversation. The delve and the black man psyche but it's something that's missing and I want them to get it.
I don't like Drake at all. Niggas play too much bro. Like there are niggas right now. There you know you know regular niggas who work for Kellogg they have drinkos and they fucking Trump for what?
Anything about it is you think it's all fun and games because you heard it on a rap record fucking I fucking go up or whatever but once you introduce a gun into any conflict conflict type situation you're putting your life at risk you're putting your life in danger and people don't realize that. There are a lot of niggas out here playing. They're playing too fucking much and y'all don't have to do that and it's become a cultural thing. Like everybody when they take off their lab coats from working at Walgreens or their brown uniform from UPS or their garbage man uniform or their you know whatever uniform you wear.
We're all good citizens at the time making good money. People want to go home and play and they want to be gangsters and shit and they want to have backpack guns and they want to be this that in the third and they put in their life in danger. Could they want to do something that they're not. Whatever happened to just going to the club and just kicking it and getting off some holes and going home.
Negative. I know it's a little bit. I don't know. That's a little bit.
That's a little bit. Oh, preach. Preach. You guys are going to Drake now?
Yeah, so let's talk about it. There you go. Yeah, so New Music King out also. I without Drake's album came out with 21 Savage.
I do have a ping and I know everyone. It's pretty well documented. I like to be consistent in the fact that I'm not a big drink fan. It's it's because he doesn't make music that resonates with me.
I would say that most hip hop that most rap doesn't resonate with me either. I'm an R&B person. That's kind of my shape and Rick Ross because it's aspirational and positive. But anyway, Drake came out with the album with 21 Savage.
I don't really have a problem with 21 Savage. I think he makes pretty decent music. He could be introspective. But this album I listen to like I listen to it.
Like I never listen because we have a podcast and I want to give my opinion in a way that's fair and I didn't enjoy it. Mostly because and not to say that he didn't rap well because he did. I think Drake is a talented artist. His message doesn't resonate with me.
His demographic is winning primarily. But I think what he did was he shunned them by being very disrespectful. Moreover, he kind of stuck with his kind of sassy bars which I'm out of fan of. So I didn't like the album.
I mean, 21 Savage maybe wrapped the 21 bars. Like he didn't really contribute that to the album to make it an album for both. And it was really just kind of a Drake album with a 21 feature. So that's how it really wasn't a big fan of it.
But what were your thoughts? So I disagree with you. Everything. I have to just say it.
Hey man. That album got slapped on it. I mean, I hate to say it. But I like toxic Drake.
You know what I'm saying? It's not going over well because of the Meg situation and people don't I mean people probably already know he has those two lines where he's dissing Meg and he also this Serena's husband like by name like say Serena your husband is a group type shit, right? But Drake has always been sassy. You know what I'm saying?
But y'all I'm telling the women because primarily that's who quote his lyrics in their like Instagram captions. And you can tell that that's what this album was. He was trying to give a whole lot of quotables. So like, I don't talk to broke boys.
Like why would you say that on song? That he wanted that to be a caption. It's just a whole bunch of shit that he wanted women to like, you know, regurgitate or whatever man wanted to put that on captions and shit. But because women aren't fucking with him right now, like he doesn't have any cheerleaders.
Like, so this is the first time where like Drake has really been the butt of like all the jokes. Like right now Drake isn't cool. Now how crazy is that? Like this nigga's been air quote like the coolest nigga going for like the last decade.
You know what I'm saying? But now you see cartoon, what is niggas sassy, he's crossing his legs, he's making his ass clap. It's all types of shit out there. It's like cool to diss Drake now.
And I mean, it goes back to like that ad is like if the hero lives long enough, he'll eventually become you know what I'm saying? So it's one of those things where he's just outlived his coolness. You know what I'm saying? It is crazy that the you know, listen with like a double their sword or whatever, maybe I'll sort it out about sort.
So the same way that he got his fan based on the women are the same ones that are like Kevin's niggas career because niggas don't really care. You know what I'm saying? Most niggas are like chef they could, you know, if Drake is playing in the club, he'll dance, but he ain't really going back to the hour with me. I like Drake.
Drake is rapping his ass off on here. And 21 Savage is rapping his ass off too. I prefer Drake in 21 Savage over Drake in future of Drake whoever else the fuck, you know what I'm saying? So I thought it was a good, I think it's a pretty good fucking album.
Like, but again, you know, I like toxic Drake. I mean, it should have came out in the summer as opposed to be cuff and season and this niggas is going to have niggas like, well, not niggas because I think I might listen to it for me. But I'm just saying, it's not a lot of like love music that you would think would come from a niggas when it starts getting told. Oh, it's definitely a summer boy album.
Thing is, the album is actually doing pretty well. It's like one of the top spinning albums. You wouldn't know because he literally nobody's he's not breaking the time Brady rap. He's a Tom Brady of hip-hop.
Everybody's going to hate him and he's probably the most successful rapper in a span of time. Yeah, he has like, he has like about five of the top 10 albums on the Billboard Hot 100 singles, but I'm talking about singles because radio is not the most talented. He's not the best lyricist. He doesn't have the best delivery.
You know, he doesn't have the best narrative or story, but you can't argue with the production. And that's just what Drake is. And that also is a marketer. Like he makes music for the Jayzo's quotes.
So you can use all that shit on TikTok. Those are those spins. Oh, like I mean, just look at look at what fuck pink spice, what the fuck? Ice spice and these motherfuckers are not rapping about anything, but they are getting mother fucking streams because they got quoteables.
They got fucking catchy ass shit that women who do a lot of streaming are fucking with Drake knows that Drake's got people on the team that saying, look, man, you could you could do an album for niggas, but niggas not going to scream that shit. It's not niggas that's on Spotify and iTunes music like that spin. It's the women. So we got to do something in that lane, you know, saying Drake understands that.
Drake can all Drake can do an album that niggas is going to fuck with any time. I mean, he could do an album with 90s R&B samples and 90s hip hop samples and rap about regular shit at any given time. But that's just not what he wants to do. You know what I'm saying?
He makes music for the moment. I would say that I mean, he's kind of segues him to the non-disgusting. He makes albums that we're not going to remember in 30 years. I would also.
I'll go by that now. And you know, what is it? Early shit, maybe early shit. So far so gone.
Come back season. What was it? Was it? Was it that you later?
I take care. What was it? What were we talking about? Drake albums?
We listen to Drake albums in 30 years. Yes. Yes. Make a big as little dip with this to Drake albums in 30 years.
You think Drake owns the rapper in 30 years? No, because he'll be fucking 60. Right. Now I was a bit under 60.
I mean. But but Nas is a different type of rapper though. He's right. And Nas didn't.
It wasn't putting out as much music as that. I was doing like a burst every year. What I'm saying is because of the talent and the skill set and going into the 21 Savage argument, Nas is always going to be relevant because of the type of musician he is. And I think the issue I have with hip hop going into the gun violence and the shortness of life is that unlike rock that goes to classic rock, we don't allow hip hop to go into classic hip hop.
We don't have enough artists who are just legacy acts that have been around since the game that Nick is respect. Like Nick is a look at Sugar Hill gang like at Ching-a-a-goofy ass. I don't hear them hip hop. I'm not going to say that because the old hands definitely mama just told me mama's not a hip hop.
My mama said for her birthday, uh, Sugar Hill is having a concert and she's going to be there. But are you going to be there? I mean, I don't need to be there. That's not my classic.
That's not my classic. Like we can listen like if Anita Baker came when Anita Baker comes to DC, you might see Anita Baker if Earth when a fire comes. But you can't they literally have a legends of hip hop tour. They go around and you have a tour.
They have the mountain west. Everybody's got shit though. Yeah, you're wrong. But I also think this can't compare.
Ice Cube, too short. Snoop Dogg and whoever the fourth nigga, E40. Like Nick goes to the ones. It's not that many.
Like hip hop has been around since at this point hip hop is like what 50 years ago? Right. Because that was inception of hip hop. Right.
So the niggas will listen. Them niggas are 50 and 60. Right. So they got their hip hop introduction.
They also will listen to other shit too. Like 80s pop and white. Got rock and shit like that. But we grew up into hip hop.
So if our legends, which are the Scarfaces and the fucking nazas, that's what I'm saying. Like whilst arrives and on the mold niggas, like we're probably still listening to them. We're probably going to concert when we get 50 also. I mean, I mean, if they still rapping the shit.
Right. Right. Right. You make it.
Like Drake can always make it. He'll pull the head at his ass if he needs to. He just drink has enough material now to be Frankie Beverly and Maisish of hip hop. He can he doesn't need anybody to open.
He's got enough tracks. We don't think about the nazos by the way outstanding. Great. Everything about nazos.
Great music. I think it make me cry on every king's disease. I need to be some shit that hits me. God, I fuck.
I thought that was a great album. I'm on my eighth spin. I listened to it constantly. So I mean, he didn't get a Grammy nomination for King's disease too.
I think because of it. Maybe the tying thing. Anyone who thinks he's too. He wasn't on it for that.
I think King's disease. He's gonna get a nazos finish. I don't think it matters. I don't think nazing fucking cares.
I mean, he's name is submitted, you know what I'm saying? On the Mount Rushmore, you know, yes, I'm sure he'll be ecstatic to get a fucking Grammy. But I don't think he's doing it for the fucking Grammy. I think he's doing it for hip hop.
I mean, that's what the type of nigga that he is. I'm doing this shit for fucking hip hop. You know, but it's great music, man. It's just it's fusing music with with the lyrics that he's always had, because he never quite always had the music of the production that he needed, which is him spitting, but it's like a lot of good music.
You know, I'm saying it's kind of how y'all feel about Kendrick and y'all getting all that jazz shit. That's how I feel one of this and that's probably my favorite rapper. So I love King's disease. I hope he keeps fucking doing shit.
I hope he keeps out. We on King's disease fucking eight. You know what I'm saying one day. I bought King's disease one and two on vinyl.
I look forward to that. They're on vinyl too. Is that what I'm saying? Is that what I'm saying?
Is that what I'm saying? No. Yeah, check, check, check like Walmart. Walmart has a whole lot of records.
And shout out to Gary Andriano's own Freddie Gibbs. That nigga's album is in heavy rotation. Hey boy, that nigga shit is a he got one without it. That's correct though.
I don't think people, he got a little bit of shit this year being goofy and not acting like a 40 year old man. But he still makes crazy music. He just goes. All the niggas projects, I think it can really wrap his face off.
And like you said, he doesn't really get the respect that he's due. But all these albums, one that he had with alchemists, like Alfredo, whatever that shit. That's an heavy rotation too. I fuck with Gibbs.
I think the best rappers are really, they like, they 40s. 40 or better. I don't know if it gets to the point where you just you put your 10,000 hours in and you just kind of get into a groove that you just know what to do at this point. I do what it is, but I want to see that for these young rappers.
Honestly, to go full circle, I want to see 21 Savage get to the point where he's like, a grown man and really just switching it up. I feel like my fear is we're not going to see that for a lot of these younger rappers because of all the bullshit that's going on right now. But I think younger the next generation was a Gen Z and I think they live life faster, but they grow slow. Like maturity?
Yeah, we didn't have enough as much information. We didn't, if you had exposed to much stuff as quickly, but the shit we did get exposed to was like real life shit. You know what I'm saying? Like failure?
Like we saw failure quick, you know what I'm saying? And we weren't allowed to really process failure and loss like you just, you got to deal with that shit. Let me get like, I understand you upset and all this type of shit. You know, she don't fuck with you.
You got to get over that shit. Well, yeah, I know that your uncle died, but you got to fucking get over that shit or your homeboy died. I get it. But it's the 90s.
Everybody's fucking dying. You got to get over that shit. We didn't, we, it was a conversation. It's kind of weird because we weren't really afforded the luxury of shit like anxiety and depression, like, or feelings or feelings.
Or feelings. Anytime feelings. Like, it's something that's wrong with you. You need to pick up one of these habits.
You got a choice between gambling drugs and liquor. Like pick one, use that as your advice and let's go on about our fucking business. But we were, and I might even really call it coping. We're just, we have a harder shell and we're able to process things a little bit differently, compartmentalize, things like that.
And it may not be healthy, but it makes us, it makes us pretty fucking productive. And it also, I think people are now, they're comparing it to, they're comparing depression to things like a disease, right? But if you never expose your immune system to diseases and things like that, to infectious diseases, you'll never get an immunity. So if you're never put in situations where you have to cope and work through situations that are going to, you know, work through maybe being depressed and anxiety, when you get grown and you witness failure, you witness loss or things not going away, that you want them to go, you're more, you're more susceptible to things like depression anxiety or whatever, you know what I'm saying?
You got to expose your kids that man, let the motherfuckers fail. Let the motherfuckers figure it out. They're fine. They're resilient.
They're going to be just fine, no matter what goes on. But if you don't expose them to that and they live this social media lifestyle where everything is pristine, you know, I look great, I'm living life. I got so many likes. I got so many followers when they finally hit that brick wall of reality that this is not the way that this shit is.
That's when depression and anxiety should like that creeps in because they're usually that dopamine hit, you know what I'm saying, being so high and so constant when that shit drops, man, they can't, they can't deal with that shit. So you got to prepare your kids for that shit. Yeah. And we live living in this, like I said, that double means society where like you get praised regardless, you know what I'm saying?
Like, nigga, you could work out like your whole life and have big ears and they'd be like, Oh, look at this big ear. That's my big ear. Have you know what I'm saying? Like, as you get shot down, but now like you post anything on Instagram, your home girls or people you don't know, but like heart, heart, eye emojis, flame, flame, flame, regardless of how you look, you know what I'm saying?
And I mean, you can take that as a good thing or bad thing. But like you said, it doesn't strengthen your shell. Like what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. So all them sessions where you got to talk bad to talk bad about what you're doing in elementary school or high school, whatever that I mean, that prepares you for like real life when somebody says something you've grown up like, well, you know how to retaliate with your own, you know, your own dozens or whatever.
Right. But yeah, like I said, I've said, I've said only before that like as this younger generation is they're smarter, but they're not wiser because they don't go through shit. Like, yeah, you know a lot about a lot, but you don't really know, you know what I'm saying? Like you haven't been you haven't experienced it.
Even when they have experiences, they're not experiencing the shit. I went to my homeboy sister sign for rock nation. And it was a cool little concert they had at the house of blues. And like all of them were like, on their phones recording it just so they could show it, not really enjoying what's going on right there.
Like my fuck has got to put the phone down. But I got a conversation. I went to um, so a few things I saw opposed to the main one day saying, um, nobody thinks they ugly anymore. And I don't like that.
And I was like, that shit is true. Oh, that's the truth. Because all these muffins legit think they're beautiful. I was like, the thing about being ugly is like a like a, a niggas like a solid six, I can also have 5.826 average.
Um, is that makes you have to develop other skills. Like, you're not aesthetically pleasing. You need to be funny. You need to be smart.
You need charming. You need to have something else going on. These muffins are surface to sweat. Pretty much.
Pretty much. Because they got filtered. They actually didn't stack a little bit. But then the other thing was this.
I was at homecoming. And I was at this, um, which is dinner. And it was at this hotel. And this is a hotel that the children can't afford.
College students weren't staying there. They weren't even at the bar. Some of our classmates and friends are at the bar at the hotel having drinks. So I'm going to have drinks with them afterwards.
So these are all people that we know people that make a decent amount of money. We leave the hotel about getting a car and go to whatever's next to the evening. I saw an abortion. I saw about 20 college students, 20 younger women posted out of different areas at this hotel outside.
Couldn't get inside because I got my money. Taking pictures, like, dawled up the guy like, even gowns and shit. Taking pictures, like, posed up. And we was jogging on them on the way.
I'm like, what's going on? I ain't in there. And they was like, shut up. And they just literally 20 children outside taking pictures for the green.
Shit's gross. I don't know what's up with these motherfuckers, man. She's really about it. Yeah.
And like, but it's so like, this shit was clearly foaming like, y'all ain't staying in the hotel. Yeah, I ain't about to have a drink or eating this motherfucker. Like they didn't get in the building at all. But they want to give the image.
Like, there was some that were had professional photographers on the stairs at the entryway. They were just at the entryway taking pictures. Again, not staying there, not eating and drinking, just taking pictures of the little girl. I'm not going to get in some flicks.
I'm going to cross back. Weird. Weird. But you know what else is weird?
Oh, that. Kyrie Irving. I don't know what to do. We'll have a good one.
Here we go. This is it. No, no, that's not my point of view. Um, what kind of is this?
Kyrie Irving. We don't have to go about talking about Kanye. I think talking about Kanye enough. Even we had our last pod.
We were still in the Kanye phrase and the shit got worse, obviously. But then Kyrie Irving came to the picture. And I think he's taking a lot of Kanye West's slings on the arrows. Worried to beg his appeal.
He got in trouble for posting a link about, it was like a documentary. Like, he browsed Negroes or something like that. Like about, I think the premise of the documentary didn't watch it. Don't plan to watch it, by the way, was the premise was that black, like the original Jews were people of color.
They were Negroes. Um, and then it went to the history of that relationship between black folks and Jewish folks. And I think it said it at some point that Jews are part of the slave trade. Asking as Jews are part of the trade.
It was, I mean, it was, it was something that you see on Amazon. You see on Amazon. Amazon is known for having trash, cinema. Um, anybody could literally make a documentary, literally.
And you could just kind of, if you market it, right, you'll get money for it. It could be factual or not. Or it could just be a lot of theoretical stuff. Anyway, he posted the link to this documentary without any context.
It wasn't necessarily promotion, but he posted the link. People took offense to it. Um, and he didn't take it, he deleted the tweet, but he didn't apologize for it. And there was a backlash immediately.
There was a backlash on the side of black, um, like folks in sports media, I'm going on Kyrie. Uh, there was backlash from the Anti-Defamation League calling him anti-Semitic. Um, and he said he wasn't, he asked if he was, he didn't say he wasn't, it was worse than a list of punishments came from the NBA and, uh, and the Brooklyn Nets. Uh, it's the point where it's almost gone into a reverse or people are going too far.
And all the, and that's how long it's been as far as this news cycle is to take forever. People are starting to reverse their takes on Kyrie saying that he's becoming like a whipping boy. Um, and this is the punishment doesn't fit the crimes. Is that a racist?
Uh, I like whipping boy. I whip him. Do we know where that comes from? Probably from the originates.
Oh, it'd be surprised. Did you be using that thing? I'm glad I'm going to go with it. I agree.
It doesn't. I mean, we weren't the first boys to get whipped. So I'm not sure if it'll be. Who was the first boys to get whipped?
Probably the first place. The Jews. And the Jews were black full circle. There we go.
That's what I was getting. I love you. Anyway, what was the whole, what else was going to shoot? Um, I took away shit from this that didn't have anything to do with Kyrie.
My main thoughts were just that my people don't get it. You know, I mean, that's just really where my focus was. Like our reaction to Kyrie Irvine and everybody, like overwhelmingly had Kyrie's back and it was like, well, he's just living his truth and well, but did the, did the documentary and speaking truth and you know, why can't he just say whatever he wants to with the documentary is true. And I'm like, this is why y'all have issues on your job.
Like this is, this is it right here. Like my people don't get it. Like this is, this is the lesson that you miss with your mom and daddy or whatever house we brought up in. It was like, you can't, you can't just say whatever the fuck it is that you want to say when you want to say it just because it's your truth.
Somebody else is true. There might be the truth. The truth is irrelevant as it is concerning you saying just whatever the fuck it is that you want to say. And I, and to me, that's common sense.
I don't understand why that's such a complex, a complex thing, you know, complex idea that you can't just say whatever the fuck is that you want to say. I don't give a damn what the documentary had in it. I don't want to listen to it. I mean, just like, just like, I don't want to watch it.
I don't fucking care. I don't even give a fuck if I'm if I'm a descendant of fucking Jews. Really don't. Whatever about that.
Oh, man, you got to watch the documentary. They try on this life. Well, this shit, you know, because of the truth gets out shit by the change things. I'm not sure exactly what the documentary is about the change even if it is telling the truth.
But what does that have to do with Kyrie Irving? Kyrie Irving works for an organization who is on TV networks that largely own and produce by people of Jewish descent for a commissioner who is Jewish. What made you think that you could come out and say anything other than glowing affirmations about Jewish people? I don't understand it.
I don't understand it. That's like, that's like your boss's wife has cancer and all their hair is gone and you say, I mean, what's up with what's up with your bald hair wife? Just because she's bald hair and it's true doesn't mean that you can say that. You know what I'm saying?
Like, what's true doesn't fucking matter. But everybody came to fucking Kyrie's defense and I'm like, this is why y'all don't fucking get it. This is why y'all don't fucking win right here. This is why we don't fucking win.
Like Bob said, y'all don't understand fucking tech. You don't understand fucking time in fucking place. You don't understand motherfucking reverence and respect for other people's opinions and views. You feel that the only motherfuckers on this planet on this earth that are oppressed is you.
You know what I'm saying? You have no sensitivity for that shit and you feel just because we were oppressed and we were. We haven't fucked up situations even to this day, but that doesn't give us license to dismiss somebody else's flight. And then like, oh, well, I mean, well, I don't think it's offensive.
It doesn't matter. The oppressed hold license or the oppression. It doesn't matter if we think it's offensive. If the Jewish people feel that it is offensive, then it is offensive.
Let somebody try to tell one of us that some shit that we think is racist is not racist. We will lose our shit. We will lose our collective shit. We want Jesse Al, everybody to march upon the Capitol and tell the whitey crackers is wrong.
That's how we are. So why can't we in our minds transpose that ideal to other people and think that they don't think the same way as we do? Like, it's a double standard, you know, say it in many ways. And I saw all that play out with Kyrie.
And yes, it goes back to the risk management conversation that we just had. Yes, the justice is not proportionate to the crime. I get that. We're black folks.
The results are never proportionate to the crime. Your job is to make sure that you don't do the fucking crime to put yourself in a situation where someone has cash judgment on your ass that might just happen to be disproportionate. That's the whole gig. That's the risk management part.
Once again, we don't fucking get that. And that's the sad part about this whole thing, all the little lessons that we're supposed to get just rear their ugly heads and how we reacted to Kyrie. The other part of it is, again, we need to separate what should be from what is. So we always fall into this perpetual trap like, well, oh, so it is.
And nothing happens. They only get a 10 minutes suspension. Our song so did that and they're not happening. No, that shit does not work like that for us.
And we keep seeing that shit time and time again. I wasn't following this shit real closely, but I understand the largest part of the situation that they claimed is what they really bound him for was the fact that they gave him an opportunity to walk it back and he's doubled down on it. And doubling down is never the way to go. First thing you do when you realize you're in the hole and stop being.
So you know, you use the pictures out to the whims and wishes of these third parties, you know what I'm saying? And you can't cry about that shit afterwards because once again, you put yourself here. Nobody put it down to your head, whatever. Like, my dad, you said it all the time about T.O.
Like, he needs to learn it every time they put it like in my given states, you don't have to say nothing. You can just say nothing. Marshall Lynch, like, watch out. Like, he mastered that shit.
Turned it into a gang, you know what I'm saying? And that's what they got to get to. But, you know, when you want to do this pie in the sky, I'm the smartest one in the room, shit. And I'm going to dance around topics and giving you windows and not quite say shit and then play dumb.
And you ask me about it, now that shit ain't, it doesn't fly and it ain't going to fly. And unfortunately, he had learned it the hard way. And, you know, hopefully he's a fairly young guy. He can bounce back from it, whatever.
But I mean, he put his he put his stuff in the chair. He's like, going to jail or something, you know what I'm saying? You while in doing some bullshit and you got to wait until they say whatever, you know what I'm saying? Like, you can't be, you know, rush, I'll give me a plea deal.
Oh, drop this shit. I ain't do this. Did you see this other person doing that? Like, and that one, you want to sit until they say so.
You know what I'm saying? Try to avoid that shit and then you don't find yourself in a photo spot. Yeah, but like going back to what you said at first, like black people, not black people. No, definitely black people love to pull that well, such and such did this.
And it didn't happen to them. Like, we got to stop doing it as a people like the shit's not fair. The other motherfuckers are never going to get it the way we get it. It just is what it is.
You know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, that nigga in Amazon, that nigga ain't producing, you know, where's the beef or Bezos and all this other shit? Like, that nigga's a billion billion, that ain't gonna fuck with it. Yeah, fucking Bezos.
Like, what? But they always want to do that. Like, when Kanye would get, like, I ain't heard nothing about, uh, what's like, uh, Red Farve, you know what I'm saying? Like, y'all slip Red Farve on it.
Yeah. But yeah, that's what they do. We don't control shit. So yeah, actually, it's all, we got to stop doing that fucking compare and contrast shit, you know what I'm saying?
And always trying to find scapegoats for niggas. Like, some niggas just be doing fuck their shit and not saying that what Tyree did was fucked up, but the nigga stepped out on the ledge. You know what I'm saying? Like, good for you.
That's what you believe in. That's what you do. But it's also consequences to fucking actions. You know what I'm saying?
And then, like with the whole Kanye shit and like, I can't be anti-Semitic because, you know, the black people are the original Jews, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's fine. Okay, cool. Whatever.
But that your intent is different. You know what I'm saying? I hate when niggas are trying to find these niggas, loopholes and everything. Like, all right, we might be the lost tribe of Israel and all this other shit.
But that's not what he meant. White Jews. You know what I'm saying? I'm going Def Con 5 on us as a black Jewish, no, he was talking about the white people.
That's why I call this semantics. You know what I'm saying? I trademarked that semantics. I get it.
That's why I'm saying white people not all what you're talking about. You want to miss words? Right. And that's it.
We have to stop doing that shit. Like, I mean, I get it. We want to root for everybody's black. Go, go, go, go, go.
I'm the same way. But like, you also have to call a fucking spade of spade when the shit is out there. And again, not saying that Kyrie just did this big bad fucking thing. You know what I'm saying?
He's, to me, he looks like he wants he thirst for knowledge. And it seems like he gets real deep into shit. And I don't know if he gets the right teachers of shit. Again, he's a flat arthur.
You know what I'm saying? He reminds me a lot of Kanye. You know what I'm saying? They just kind of fall into shit.
Like, whatever. But I mean, just watching some of his interviews, he wants to learn. He has a thirst for knowledge now. If you're reading them little purple books with the incense on the set and, you know, they talk about how everybody's alien.
That's on you. But people believe in what they want to believe in. You know what I'm saying? People laugh at people that believe in Jesus and God and all this other stuff.
So it is what it is. I just feel like, I don't know, his discernment button is broken or something like that. Kyrie is one of the black people who feel that who mistakes contradiction and provocative thought for intelligence. They feel just because I'm not thinking the same as everybody that my thought must be intelligent.
Sometimes everybody can be thinking something generally the same. And it can be right. Like, there are general ways of thought that, hey, that shit is generally correct. You know what I'm saying?
But Kyrie just looks for the tangent thought. I'm just about to think differently from everybody else. And that itself is going to make me intelligent. Like smart people ask more questions in public than they do make statements.
They're like, well, what do you guys think about this? I mean, because black, I mean, smart people always like their thoughts are always changing because they're always thinking about different thoughts. Like Neil deGrasse Tyson, have you ever listened to him say shit? Sometimes it's a lot of gibber japper because he's like, you know, pinning off of his own thoughts, you know, saying like he's spinning up on his own thoughts because he's that smart of a person where it's like, I think I think, you know, I know these are the rules and this is what I say, but this is what I also think I think.
And it's a lot of gibber japper. He'll never say anything that is like just straight binary. This is the way things are. He'll ask a lot of questions and give it to your own thought.
To me, that is what an intelligent person sounds like, you know what I'm saying? But Kyrie makes these statements and he doesn't have any sort of question to it. He doesn't have any sort of own personal discernment like this is what I think or what do you think, you know what I'm saying? And it seems to me that he leans more into I just want to be controversial and provocative.
Then I actually want to do be smart after the flatter thing. Talk to a physicist, you know what I'm saying? Like you can talk to a physicist, talk to an astronaut. They'll let you fucking know the math to it.
You know what I'm saying? Like it's not something that you can really argue at this point in time. And if you do want to argue it, then argue it. He didn't even want to argue it.
He was just saying bullshit that he read like from some pro some controversial motherfucker who just says bullshit, you know what I'm saying? Somebody's not even a physicist, you know what I'm saying? And that's that's what I see when I see Kyrie because he never gives us any thoughts that make sense. They're always provocative and controversial.
But he also talked about wisdom earlier. Kyrie is not wise. I mean, I think eight, 30 years old, he's not using it. He's fairly young.
And because of, I don't like to show athletes, they're not intelligent, but if you're a professional athlete, especially basketball players, they've been set up and kind of coddled and told they were right since they were in elementary school. He's been targeted to be what he is since he was a little boy. So if you have that, if you live in Echo Chamber, you're always told you're right. What's one of the best universities in the country?
It's not the world. It doesn't matter if you haven't been pressed to think or got any experience that comes with life and that's where wisdom really comes from. You can get any of that. So I feel bad for him.
I mean, getting his weapon now, but I hope he's wearing something from it. My deal want to get your thoughts. Hold on, before you go on, a whipping boy was a boy educated alongside a prince or a boy in my dark and early modern Europe who supposedly received corporal punishment for the prince's transgressions. So that's an estate thing.
You carry your journalism major. No offense to journalism majors, but yeah. Okay. No offense, please.
Now exactly a nuclear physicist. All right. So I did want to get your thoughts on Deishapel because he did SNL last week and he gave away to my blog, obviously, and was topically talked about Carrie, he talked about anti-Semitism. And I thought it was good.