EPISODE · Jun 25, 2026 · 1H 15M
We Gave an AI $100 at Max Leverage — and It Bought AI Chips to Fund Itself
from Permanent Underpod · host Jackson Cook, Chris Doran, and Tyler
We built Perp of Fortune: hand $100 to Claude, let it pick any perp at maximum leverage, and watch it ride for the entire episode. It chose $DRAM — an AI-memory index — at 20x, and immediately started funding the AI hardware supercycle. We may have found the recursive loop.Then Tyler makes his contrarian case that self-custody will never scale to normal people, we trace the custodial honey-trap from Mt. Gox to FTX to today's Bitcoin treasury companies, and we break down why MicroStrategy's "Stretch" — a ~$100 "stable" yield product Saylor reportedly cooked up with ChatGPT — looks headed for a slow bleed to its 4% floor.Bitcoin, AI, and questionable decisions, from three guys earmarked for the permanent underclass. Real money, high leverage — this is NOT financial advice. Our own opinions, not our employers'.(0:00) Cold open: we let an AI gamble our money(0:54) The Pico recovery(3:45) Main event: Perp of Fortune(12:08) Claude goes rogue - the $DRAM trade(19:00) Contrarian Corner: self-custody won't scale(34:17) The custodial honey-trap (Gox -> FTX -> ?)(42:29) MicroStrategy & the Stretch problem(57:10) Confession: my emergency fund went into Stretch(1:00:53) The endgame: is MSTR just a $64B ETF?(1:07:36) What actually moves Bitcoin?(1:14:54) Outro + next week (all three in person)(1:15:35) Next time on Permanent UnderpodGlossary — Perp: a leveraged crypto bet with no expiry. Liquidation: when leverage wipes your stake. Hyperliquid: the perp exchange Claude trades on. $DRAM: a Hyperliquid index perp tracking AI-memory prices. Self-custody: holding your own crypto via private keys. MicroStrategy (MSTR): a company that issues stock/debt to buy Bitcoin. Stretch (STRC): MSTR's "stable" ~$100 yield product. mNAV: a treasury company's value vs. the Bitcoin it holds. Claude: Anthropic's AI agent, here wired to pick and open the trade.Subscribe — Ep 4: all three in person, agentic payments for real this time, and Jackson's contrarian take finally comes due.
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