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We Made It Worse: How the US Handed Iran a Nuclear Argument w/ Eric Czuleger

from Make It Make Sense with Grant Hermes · host Grant Hermes

How Close Did We Actually Come? — Iran, The Peace Talks, and What Happens NextThe VP is on a plane to Pakistan. Peace talks are scheduled for Saturday in Islamabad as Iran comes in with better cards than it had before the war. Grant talks to Eric Czuleger from The Under Report back on the show to break down the most overwhelming week in recent memory; what actually happened, how close Tuesday really was to a nuclear war, and why the way this has played out may have made a nuclear Iran more likely, not less.They get into:Why the US position going into Saturday's talks is so difficultWhat "writing your opponent's victory speech" means for these negotiationsWhy are nuclear weapons everywhere more likely now than any time since the 1970sWhy the IRGC hardliners are now more in control than Iran's elected government.This is a freewheeling conversation, and they cover a lot of ground; it's worth it.LINKS:  MAKE IT MAKE SENSE SUBSTACK THE UNDER REPORT BY ERIC CZULEGERSupport the showFollow along on social media SaySo: @GrantHermes X: @GrantHermesInsta: @Grant__HermesTiktok: Grant_Hermes

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How Close Did We Actually Come? — Iran, The Peace Talks, and What Happens Next The VP is on a plane to Pakistan. Peace talks are scheduled for Saturday in Islamabad as Iran comes in with better cards than it had before the war. Grant talks to Eric Czuleger from The Under Report back on the show to break down the most overwhelming week in recent memory; what actually happened, how close Tuesday really was to a nuclear war, and why the way this has played out may have made a nuclear Iran ...

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