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EPISODE · Aug 14, 2026 · 2H 10M

We Stopped Disciplining Kids. Now They’re Destroying Civilization. - Katharine Birbalsingh

from Dad Saves America · host John Papola and Katharine Birbalsingh

I sat down with Katharine Birbalsingh, headmistress of Michaela Community School and the UK’s most outspoken voice on education, to mark the launch of our new YouTube collaboration, Strictly Education. Katharine runs one of the strictest schools in the UK, for mostly disadvantaged students from immigrant families, and gets some of the best results in the country. Her solution to the failure of modern schooling isn’t about funding, racial politics, or experimenting with radical teaching methods. It’s discipline, structure, and a return to the values our grandparents understood instinctively.We get into:* Why shame, done right, is essential to raising well behaved kids* How gentle parenting and white guilt are burning down Western civilization* Why the left refuses to try proven solutions in education* The consequences of failing to teach our true history* Why AI can never replace the relationship a great teacher builds with a child* Her case for government intervention regarding social media and smartphones* The vision behind Strictly Education and why she wanted to team up with Dad Saves America_____________________________________Ready to give MASA a try? Get 25% off your first order by going to http://www.masachips.com/dad and using code DAD._____________________________________My first interview with Katharine: https://youtu.be/uLmb3as-MQc?si=Qfd_7vXHLOcW7ym2Watch “Strictly Education”: https://youtu.be/UpTqPSSOMn0?si=pUkovSuiHgCs2p0nFollow Katharine Birbalsingh on X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/Miss_Snuffy_____________________________________Outline:[0:00] Why launch Strictly Education?[15:39] What’s happening to young women?[20:40] Can free-range parenting work in 2026?[30:56] What does “culture” actually mean?[35:49] Bad behavior thrives on attention[42:46] Why shame is useful in the classroom[52:43] White guilt is destroying civilization[1:00:07] Why the left attacks real solutions[1:08:55] Kids are being lied to about our history[1:18:26] You can’t teach critical thinking[1:27:01] Is technology a net-negative in education?[1:32:06] How do we keep kids off social media?[1:50:55] Gentle parenting, adulthood, and the death of God[1:58:05] How should we teach the Western canon?[2:05:51] We’ve literally dumbed-down education_____________________________________Purchase a T-shirt, hoodie, and more over on our merch store: https://shop.dadsavesamerica.com/Watch the video version on YouTube: https://youtu.be/WrCd_oec5VEMake a tax-deductible donation to Dad Saves America: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://secure.anedot.com/emergent-order-foundation/dad-website?⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.dadsavesamerica.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get full access to Dad Saves America at www.dadsavesamerica.com/subscribe

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