EPISODE · Aug 6, 2026 · 54 MIN
Weed Is More Addictive Than Heroin - Judy Grisel - #87
from The Chase Merrill Podcast · host Chase Merrill
Judy Grisel is a professor of psychology and neuroscience at Bucknell University and the author of Never Enough: The Neuroscience and Experience of Addiction.What actually drives addiction — genes or environment? Judy spent a decade lost to addiction, homeless and sick, before turning her own life into a research question and becoming one of the field's leading addiction neuroscientists. Her answer is close to fifty-fifty. So what tips the balance, and why do addiction rates keep climbing even though our genes haven't changed?Expect to learn why cannabis may be more addictive than heroin, what's actually happening in the brain's dopamine pathway when we crave something, why the anticipation of a reward feels better than the reward itself, why 90% of people who develop an addiction start using before they turn 18, how boredom is a bigger risk factor than poverty, how Judy went from homeless and addicted to a tenured neuroscientist, why "resetting your dopamine" isn't as simple as people claim online and much more…-Save hundreds on the best saunas on the market: HERE (use code MERRILL)Save on Ice Barrel Cold Plunge at: HERE (use code MERRILL)Save on beef protein: HERE (use code MERRILL)Save on Nordic Wave Cold Plunge: HERE (Use code MERRILL)Save on Board Game Tables: HERE ( Use MERRILL10)-0:00 Fifty-Fifty Split2:55 Inside the Brain's Dopamine Pathway5:10 Can You Actually Reset Your Dopamine10:53 The Genetics of Addiction Risk14:50 What to Do if You're Wired for It17:20 Why Boredom Beats Poverty as a Risk Factor20:41 Do We Really Have More Free Time Than Our Ancestors25:13 Cannabis Is More Addictive Than Heroin28:49 Judy's Own Decade Lost to Addiction33:41 Why Her Recovery Actually Stuck39:59 The Carl Hart Debate on Using Safely46:00 Chase's Own Cold Turkey Moment50:32 Closing Questions and Book Recs-Thank You For Listening To The Chase Merrill Podcast-Get in touch in the comments below or head: HERE-Judy's Website: HEREJudy's Book: HERE
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