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What we got championship Saturday? We want to go with bear We're gonna championship Saturday. All right rankings out last night plenty to talk about or is there there? I think there is I think there are a couple ways you can look at it I think number one I think you can say say if Georgia is number four right now in the ranking and they have to play number one Alabama if you determine they're in the four best teams now Then why should you penalize them for playing the number one ranking in the country?
They were to trade spots with either Ohio State or Oklahoma this week I was our Oklahoma Rios State with pick up that second loss against Alabama Whereas a Georgia had to play Texas or Northwestern's the Bulldogs who pick up a win So it's a little unfair that Georgia is in the situation that they are but they'll they'll deal with it But I don't know how you felt about the rankings But don't you think the committee kind of made their decision last night? Yes, Oklahoma Absolutely because if Ohio State right now and the committee's eyes wasn't judged to be better than Oklahoma with two better wins than anything Oklahoma has ever last week being painted on the road Ohio State had the big win against Michigan last week That's better than anything Oklahoma has done and if right now they aren't better than Nick All the things we see next week if Oklahoma to win Ohio State would win is Oklahoma's gonna pick up their best one of the year Avengers lost against Texas and Ohio State against Northwestern. Yeah, don't beat them But that's not as impressive so the committee can always change your mind But I kind of think they gave a little bit of a foreshadow last night What's the best win in the season this season? What's the best win?
Well, I mean what happened last week was pretty any the sheer impressiveness of it all right, but if you look I mean They're really having been a bunch of great ones. I noticed there's three that's a good three to sit out to you Texas beat Oklahoma, okay, all right, which I guess my rankings probably would be the best one I just thought it was you know, it is good as a guess. Yeah last week We'll have state beats Michigan and I would think you have to put up Bama LSU That game was never in doubt correct and it was as dominant as we thought it possibly could be the mystique of Saturday night LSU, you know Tiger Stadium to a go on the road hostile environment and they just came in and shut the door So those are the three what really is amazing to me think about Maryland, right? Texas win think about it Maryland beat Texas to start the year.
They're one two-pointer wide wide open I have two best wins in the country I think that was like a USC potentially was in a position last week to have a watching in state Which could have gone to the potential to Rosewell and beat Notre Dame? Just gonna wind up in the playoffs though. That was a weird situation for a few rest either have a completely disappointing year But beat after all champion. I agree with the I think Oklahoma is is there stable unless we get that 60 to nothing Oklahoma 16th and I mean I guess I mean they're the conspiracy theorists will be out there that or they already are well They are and I mean some people might say yeah look when I've done this mock exercise.
Yeah, and you have to exactly We should go together here. Do we go on they go out me again? I ate way too much there. Yeah as I and Way too animated in there is what I think they want I think they want to get to start yelling at some but The fact that the big 12 champion hasn't made it the last two years and have a state were to win and not get in That'll be three straight years the big 10 champion didn't get in two straight years of the big 10 didn't have a representative in the playoff at all So I wonder if subliminally in some committee members minds that comes off whether it's the guy people who were on the committee last year heard that narrative after the After selection day.
Oh, well you look big 10 shipping out for the second straight year or the new people on the committee this year who heard it last year Wow big 10 chance about two straight years. Yeah, I really think believe my three straight years So yeah, that doesn't come up when you don't do the exercise. Oh, this is a big 10 teams the back Well team this is a nice conference to come up But I wonder if in the back to some people minds that maybe that could be an impetus maybe for a flip I Still don't you have a hard time putting Ohio State or You're talking about once. Yeah, exactly.
That's why I think everyone expecting them to come out and blow out in West West Week I think you're gonna get the Ohio State team that you probably seen for a good part of the year All right, we're gonna be wearing that game in a little bit, but let's start with the SEC title game It's Bama. It's George. It's 13 13 and a half around there. Obviously Alabama favored Georgia is the dog.
There's been some numbers about that with with this game and you know as you can see you know George's five times with Nick Saban in this rivalry the underdogs five and oh a T s three out right when we forgot right when That title game with Georgia really had one until the second half or else Nobody's really in the fourth quarter can hang up and that gets right to my point If two did what he did in one half against that Georgia defense Which is way better than this year's Georgia defense and Bama's offense is better than that Bama offense If I had to pick a side I would lay the 13 with Alabama here. I would also To me if Georgia could play ahead obviously it's an under it's an under game because they don't want to give up all the to it And you know Georgia's got the running game going I think swift is over a hundred and four of his last five games But if I had to lean here it would be Alabama for me you if I had to play a side I would go out sixty three and a half your total by the way Yeah, it seems it seems high but if they get going like they didn't won't take a minute Two thousand twelve thirty two twenty nine is that what that that yeah three point game and they were going in So that's sixty one right there and you figure both these offenses are probably a little bit better Yeah, I mean it's just I think they didn't really as they always do they did a really good job with the numbers Yeah, but if you look like you said I think the fact that Georgia the past Russia struck a lot of times this year The rough is a line. They got some key injuries. I think it's coming to play Could they keep it close could they win the game?
Yeah, I think they could but I had to pick a side I would I would I would lean towards weighing the thirteen and a half and taking you know So we know it's interesting here with this game to remember that 2008 when Alabama Nick Saban was really getting Alabama going They were at underdog. They were number one ledge Florida in fourth quarter. Yes, they come back by T. Bo Yes, follow it that drove them all season long in 2009 They got their chance to get at the Gators in 2009 a CC championship game beat them and that turned into the dynasty that we know now I wonder if last year's experience Kirby versus his men towards Georgia versus Alabama had him beat double-digit lead fourth quarter Let it slip away.
How much that is driven Georgia get back to this point and eventually that loss They could drive him as more than anything It's just the players to me and just looking back I mentioned that to him in the second half last year in the title game to a 14 to 24 three touchdowns 166 yards Obviously a whole bunch coming on that last touchdown over time Let's go to your first pick of the week here. We're gonna go to the ACC title game. We're all big you will be there No travel though. No, we were just travel.
Oh, yeah It's a quick little jumper from you're getting out of plane to go from Atlanta to Charlotte's we are Even the researchers go travel like this. No, I know her She goes so you think her three is gonna get in a and ask you how many people are on this flight myself Kirk Maria and Lee and Darren So we got five who's a pilot? Whoever the pilot up there is unable to find out. Yeah, he hasn't got his F.
A. Come on You should be right you think I was ever gonna get in a TV for the three and a half or hour drive from Charlotte stop it old convenience. Oh, I do it. Yeah, absolutely We'll be we'll be look this is like our Saturday throw it on some video people will watch it This is like our tradition We love this every year because we'll get me in Atlanta or Indianapolis or wherever because you have a mission a while and we'll get to Charlotte We'll get to the get to the hotel Order up.
I mean you should just see the room. It's just it's the Kirk and myself pitch black TV's on apps everywhere and just enjoying football say apps you mean like apps on your All right Wings pizza nachos maybe the a burger that we split in a couple of different ways all right And we did like our little like Saturday no ask if I can buy it right you just take your own I'm just a you know, we sort of work all right. It's Clemson. It's Pittsburgh.
It's in Charlotte eight o'clock ABC 27 is it now Even matter what gets to a point where you don't want to take Clemson 30 30 30 would probably be that number I mean maybe north of 28 maybe 20 and a half because I give away a key number but How many times are you guys gonna mention on the show that last year or the last time these two teams played pit one 206 Plays into one of the reasons why I like Clemson in the scale It'd be because you look at what happened two years ago in Death Valley when Clemson was in this position as a big favorite at home and Connor and that peteen went in there and one. It's the bad It's the bad timing award for pit fact that Clemson played so poorly last week I've hundred and some yards through the air 600 total yards and now you have to go play this game Which I'm sure they had a very interesting week of practice. They're knowing Davos and Red Venables That will probably closer a leechance and cuss words. He might have might have been a couple of dollars.
He's a shark star but I Mean it was a past game that hurt once a week Yeah, you're looking at a pit off and switch their passing game in terms of expected points is under in first in the country Not nearly the weapons that other teams have had and all they put up big numbers against week It's the way pack wake past defenses is real I don't take tangent was that not the most shocking result of last week 59 seven week overdue now when you hear about wake money line I know you this um In this game, I don't think there's any chance pit really puts up much resistance. I think Clemson's focused I've used to have put 45 one pit. I think I'm so pretty That's crazy I was reading Trevor Lawrence obviously started started starting games in the fifth game of the season Leads the ACC in 22 touchdowns I think that shows how bad this conference is this year not to take anything away from Clemson Makes sense. I mean they are that dominant with the conference snakes And you know what's interesting I had this conversation with I can't remember who it was it might have been with somebody online on Twitter At almost to the point where no it was a good conversation.
It wasn't no an egg or was it a real person? Oh, it's a real person. Okay, I'm sure verify it Well, not verify But it was a real real real real fan real account that we've diverse with before all right and I brought up the point that there really aren't any I mean the SEC is the best outcomes but they're really aren't good. They're good tools Correct which I think is a lot different from where we've been in recent years with the lack of depth in certain big leagues So play number one Clemson 27 half all right there it's bear with the tigers rolling along I'm gonna go with my first one.
I'm not gonna go on crown on school or the games this weekend I'm gonna go with a big 12 that first game Saturday We got that ABC also 12 noon 11 local in Arlington, Texas, Oklahoma So eight starting to get a little nervous. I know the numbers on time Herman as an underdog You have a 11 1 1 with on that right wins three no against Oklahoma with you at right wins Why am I going against my guy? That's my guy? I don't know my guys because I think you get the sense that Texas might be a little bit of a trendy public underdog Because of those numbers because Oklahoma's defense has been so bad because they beat them earlier Pressure on Oklahoma to maybe go out and put up a big number in that game I think you sense that but I look at it from the Oklahoma's perspective first of all There's no weather that could get in the way of the Oklahoma games inside like yeah, West Virginia did enough I thought to win last week and got it right back in the game at the start of the second half and they just weren't able to You know some foolish stuff.
They did they cost themselves, but this game is inside that Oklahoma offense went back and looked Tcu They played in Norman last year minus six and a half rolled a 38 20 win They came back a couple weeks later in the big 12 title game against Tcu I believe you and I both picked Tcu and I know I definitely a Tc plus oh you minus seven and a half 41 So that offense obviously Lincoln Riley is the best play caller in the country It's so versatile because of the guys who are calling the signals and taking the snaps last year mayfield this year Murray Obviously, but it's just they're that good and I just think Texas might be a little maxed out It's been a great year if you told them when they when they hired Herman you'll get to the big 12 title game the second year You'll beat Oklahoma once you take that right. Do you think while I don't disagree with anything you said You think we've maybe underestimated Texas a little bit this year Yes, I was losing tomorrow in the fashion that they did absolutely years in a row in a game That's really they gave away with with fourth quarter turnovers Then your other loss is a field goal loss on the road at Oklahoma State which Oklahoma State's beaten a lot of teams And so water this year and then the other losses of is a Point conversion where Danny decides to go for it So your three losses are all close in games that you very easily could have won so totally agree I just I like that dynamic Oklahoma. I know the offense the defense is 32 for the year given up a game and it's even I think It's over 47 the last four weeks and we give up 40 to Kansas Offices gonna have a little too much in their head of saying we got it We got it we got to move the change run the clock keep those guys off the field I think that gets in the way from it in the first meeting I know but I think the old flip is you know Remember when when Larry Brown beat Oklahoma in the 88 title game I do 50 to 50 at halftime slowed it down the second half I Alright we're gonna get some other picks on the other side of the break we got plenty more with the big game Obviously what she was that come on now don't disrespect Stanford Cal fair's got some other and we also have to discuss what we are gonna do with a possible condo steamer this week All that and more after this and in a big time steamer condo pick if you can bet your condo There is a championship Saturday condo steamer Cage yeah, what are we calling this thing? This is this isn't that's a bird cake This is like an entire like condo development coach Donan's words.
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He was listening before the year or people were listening another winner for the people Let's get back to our picks We'll get through these and get it get the people on their way for this championship Saturday I don't want to elongate the thing when there's there's minimal games this week big 10 Ohio State minus 14 Over under 61. What do you got for me last week? You look at Ohio State? You look across the sideline you see that wind helmet You're an underdog on your home field to a team that hadn't beat you when that building 18 years hadn't beaten you in seven years 2011 and the motivation and the emotion and the energy was easy to come by.
Mm-hmm now this week you're gonna be indoors 70% in the Probably close and you're gonna look across the sideline and you're gonna see that purple uniform with the white end on the helmet Yep, and I say it's gonna be like really that's who we're playing this week. I possibly go to the playoff possibly And it's a we're not conclusion done. I think it's very dangerous. You are I do and I think the fact that I don't think Northwestern Will win the game if you just look at the numbers historically with Northwestern in this role Last seven games as a dog big-time play seven all against the number six outright wins last 11 games Double-digit dog period ten and one against the number last 15 games as a dog And against any conference 12 and three with not that right wins They show in these spots even if even if you say they haven't played an offense like Ohio State has all year and they don't get very many Exposed to play some offense They still put up more points and more yards on Michigan State than either Ohio State or Michigan did which I think it's amazing No, no While they're there they're gonna win no, but somehow some way I think you're gonna look up on the fourth quarter This is gonna be around ten point game.
They're gonna be like well They do they ugly it up and they hung around again fourth time in seven years I'll have state will play in this big ten title game and Michigan's still with Zero zero zilch like the one ACC split up Miami, Florida State Thorson did play against Ohio State two years ago. They lost 24 20 Columbus obviously the personnel is different by the way I'd like to thank you and and your buddy for bringing back that wonderful memory of five years ago Which one oh that'd be a chat vintage badge be perfect? We got to dig up that calm cuz that was the first year We were doing Behind the bed with Chad Millman and we were documenting our picks we were right I Had a house and you were in vamp out run wrong side I still need a little S.P.M. So radio days exactly can we can we maybe do like some time?
I like be the narrator for like the water you should get a medal because I was on the wrong side Western UCLE versus Stanford and I had Duke versus Cincinnati and Bill alright We got to come up with like a creative Christmas sweater for you Christmas sweater like I suffered all great sure it or a hat or Something like that. Oh, all right. So you're on the dog there. No, that's 14.
What's this? What you guys score? 28 28 Wow that high score. Huh?
Okay. All right But I just think everyone's assuming that I was gonna come out and play the with the last week The Ohio State team we've seen for a good part of the year. It was not that great It's struggling with Nebraska struggling with Indiana struggling with Minnesota struggling with Maryland nearly losing That's what it is. It's but a good half and it's easy you but a good game in state college.
Other than that Yeah, I'm wait. They played well once this year. Let's move to my bias most important game of the weekend Friday night in beautiful Levi's stadium How many people $20 to get in a 20k 20,000 in there back to outside again. You talk like brain.
You said the moose my troubles. I got it Yeah, I gotta I gotta check that but it's Washington. It's Utah. Do you want to warn people now?
Yeah? We disagree disagree So I totally forgot by the way last week when I when I put Arizona on the board Yeah, plus two I had totally forgotten that you had our Arizona state during the pod in someone some remind me that I'm like Oh, I feel bad now. Oh, but that worked out perfectly. Exactly kind of everything to say won the game your line was too I'm game that game was dumbest do that that rivalry is scary how Crazy things get in those games Doing but no, it's Washington, Utah.
It's a rematch from earlier this year Washington went to Utah weird game 121 seven this Friday night in Levi's stadium Washington minus five and a half Against the Utes low low over under of four forty five I'll go first here. I think last up of this way last week was what I was waiting for out of Washington all year That all I mean, I know the elements weren't what Wazoo wanted and it really affected me too I like the same thing with the last day to it's with it for all year from now. Yeah, correct We're totally right, but with Hunter Bryant healthy and and gaskin healthy I think Browning played as well the game and I've been hard on him. I've always wanted more out of him from seeing what you saw so early What's it?
I think that probably said like that an expectation like that totally like and I just think this team is playing as well as Possible the offense is balanced the defense doesn't even get talked about anymore because of the weird losses They had when they were dinged up against Oregon and then they lost against Cal and even score they didn't even give up a touchdown Right, and then the Auburn game was you know, we talked about Texas being underrated because you look at the free loss of the watch Yes, maybe maybe a little too much of an over reaction just based on what we expected from them for the year They are my best free loss team the country and have been for a couple weeks But no, I the weird thing here. Yeah, I agree with that is and I look at all these matchups bear in these games They're like all my favorite coaches seriously like I'm on my Going Peterson against Whittingham, right? I'm herman against Lincoln Riley and David Shaw against the Wilcox Like those are easily those all six of those guys are definitely in my top 10 coaches. That's scary But it thinks I think it's also kind of awesome that they're all playing this weekend.
It is and now I got a pick between History, but I'm gonna take the favor I'm gonna go watch it's an I think the injuries are too much on Utah's offensive side of all without the quarterback in their running back From the beginning of the year bull starters obviously, but I think Washington wins and covers And I think if you agree with Steve you should probably run out right now Yeah Washington get a five and a half because I think this number ultimately is gonna hit six about six and a half because I think a Lot of people probably feel the same way without Huttonly the fact that I've already beaten them It could be a situation where? Washington would take advantage of that and when you get back at that first game as well and how just weird it was Utah I mean, honey didn't play that great yet like 20 20 completions like a buck 40 Which was nothing Moss was injured already in the game didn't have him so they're kind of used to that and despite that You look at three really like crazy turnovers a couple that came on some big first down pathways the fumble after the interception That looked like it was gonna be a pick six you're always three on fourth down Wasn't like Washington's offense had a great night that night against that against that defense and I think with the experience now That Shelley has and the experience that the offense has right now I mean winning ham has been great as an underdog whether it's been away from home like it like in this spot a neutral game It'd been great against the number all the other ATS numbers You look at what he's done not banking games is a dog 13 5 and 1 against a spread 3 and 1 against Washington as an underdog a couple outright wins low score again I think it'll be a 45 and a half it's a low number say like 21 20 You know is 93 to the under this year. Yeah, and a couple of them been in the 40s. Yep I'm gonna.
I'm gonna take you talk and I'm gonna wait and see if it hits it's six. Okay. All right I want to go by the guy Bill Riley out in Salt Lake last yesterday. They're confident And he mentioned a 14 5 and 1 number for winning ham.
I believe it's his last 20 games as an underdog That's 13 5 and 1 in that 35 Okay, so there was a thing where I made was a pick him game that yeah, but all right So we differ in the pack 12 game. I have one other pick. It's a big game. I had it from last week I didn't want to give up on it.
I got a bad feeling the street comes to an end It's Stanford minus three which was it was two two weeks ago when the game supposed to be played obviously with the fires and stuff They move the game back two weeks But I cowl just they seem to be doing whatever they need to win to win games lately two weeks ago They go to USC down 14 nothing at the half big turnover up before half the country game Score 15 second at points win the game 15 14. We mentioned the Washington Cali's Don't even score it off. That's a touchdown Stanford the one thing that stuck out to me is the last time these two teams came in with the same record was 2009 It's still one of the most hurtful losses the David Shaw Jim Harbaugh air harbau was still head coach shain Vereen against Toby gearhart Stanford I think was like a 10-point favorite and Cowen in and one and that one really really hurt So I think cowl at home I think it's a new game like it should be you know when I played in this game for knowing it's gal by the way But not to mention anything. I think cowl I think they squeaked it out.
I think they get a win They just feel like the balls rolling last few was close really close those are an instrument and it's a robbery It's we talked about it when we had these rivalry games two weeks ago There's nothing like the motivation of a team getting beat up How six seven straight times which is what this is coming to actually eight? So I look at that and that's why I also picked Virginia last week I was just that was the most bizarre game. I was all the weekend. I don't care what anyone says You gave up really quickly I did and they're on this out in the end of the last week Yeah, we got the one we had the little one last time one little last ball Tonight, so I'm afraid Indiana and now now the who's your god Very exactly do you wish to delete this yes?
Yes, I do all right, so I'm gonna take Cal plus the three there I would agree with you on that one. What do you make of the other mountain West final last time Preston was a small fever? Yes, we see got up 17 3 and they just kind of Basically for I think the blue is back and now they're a small dog You know Ted for the great is a dog of Fresno, but I'm scared to go against Boise because I had I had first know that night And I had I had Utah State last week and it's a little ass with brutal You know Fresno dominated the game 73 probably should have been up more at halftime Boise comes out Alexander Madison is easily one my favorite one of Max We can see that guy impressive. It was not a bad beat last week, okay?
Boise was basically covering home game and then they covered yeah, they were yes screen pass Utah State hit for 80 yards On a third and 30, you know and four plays later Boise goes back to cover So that was not a bad beat. That's why it wasn't bad beats with Van Pelt myself Um, so that's gonna do it for a pics anything else travel wise. We already got you caught up You're taking a but how long is that playing right five minutes? Oh probably half hour tops looking out for a little power nap 15 minute now Closie eyes off all right, but this isn't gonna be a bad week to travel up Because you get I get the get the mid-afternoon Hartford Atlanta is like one of like four cities that you can get too direct Hartford He just got the quick all right far from our heart for Atlanta.
Very good to go all right Other than that, we will keep a false on Twitter as Stanford Steve 82 at Chris Felica We will update you what we're gonna do with our podcast for the bowl season the issue we have and we discussed this before is Wait to see how many guys are not gonna play it's gonna be an all-time or this you know We want to wait it out and see all the not the nuances. We got coaching changes. We got everything all that Ability draft concerns. I would imagine something before the 15th.
Yeah, I was gonna say probably no sooner than the 12th And my goal is that we're both at the Vegas wall in the 15th Will your heart will be in that game potentially? That's uh, oh god Supposedly the other room that could be in that game against either Boise or a professor That would be an early Christmas present. Well, that would be a good game It's not right to not worry about what your team does in a bowl game. Yeah, especially if it's in Vegas I'm gonna be selfish very selfish.
Well, that's what I'm gonna be so look out Vegas if that happens All right, that's gonna do it super kind of steamer the big Happy recap. All right here. We go my picks Washington minus five and a half Oklahoma minus eight Cal plus three I'm on Clemson minus 27 and a half against Pitt I'm taking Utah plus the points five and a half and maybe we can wait it out and get something better Mm-hmm, and then I'll take north western plus the 14 against all honesty and a super kind of steamer total housing community Teaser money line parlay all in bird cage Buffalo Boise State, Oklahoma Washington middle, Tennessee the blue Raiders. All right, that'll do it bear take us away.
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