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The Fantasy Footballers are back to recap an eventful weekend of NFL action! On today's fantasy football podcast, get a breakdown of the fantasy studs & stinkers of Week 5. Which big-time fantasy performances are a sign of things to come, and which disappointing performances are the most concerning going forward? Plus, a recap of Week 5 injuries and Monday Punday. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for October 12th, 2020. Connect with the show: Visit us on the web Join our Fantasy Football community Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Subscribe on YouTube Want even more fantasy football goodness? Visit our community forums to chat everything fantasy football. Check out today's sponsors: Omaha Steaks -- Search Bar: FOOTBALLERS Pristine Auction -- Registration Code - BALLERS Support this podcast  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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How are you doing this fine Monday morning? I'm doing very well. I feel rejuvenated from the weekend I'm excited for hopeful Tuesday night football. It's gonna be a great week.

Yeah, we got some good news this morning Right, we understand that there have been no more positive tests for either the Patriots who is game was delayed Or I guess post phones next week or the Titans so far so good who we hope are playing on Tuesday And more than us the NFL hopes is playing on Tuesday rather than completely turn the schedule upside down So yeah, that's good news. I you know I wake up in the morning. We're on the west coast. I reach for the phone I say a prayer and we check the news every day So yeah, lots going on.

We've got studs and duds on the show today the weekly rewinds some injuries some fun stories from the weekend Fun for some not as fun for others and it's Monday, Monday, so let's get sophisticated My college you start this oh, yes, I will start this with chase yay pool, okay, I've got Dalton shucks Smiles Sanders oh that one was annoying wait a minute Josh Jacobs who let double yay puns in here Brooks It's a yeah, it was me actually oh Andy Clyde Edwards meh layer or Clyde Edwards nowhere. Yeah, yeah, Terry McSnorin It was the order be 22 felons DJ more TDS, please. Oh, yes. Yes.

No alley cocks I can't snore I can't snore CD BAM well, babe Shark DJ shark Tyler Higg bust or Mike you can take the last oh, yes finish us up Zach hurts We should really begin the show with your reflections your analysis your unbiased Observations on Zachary do we have the audio because if we get thrown to the audio I mean I guess I could just repeat it when I say hey guys. I think Zachary just washed the evidence for your claim It is mounting has been further Added to what did you say 15 yards receiving over the past two weeks? Yeah in weeks when there was no Dallas Goddard or receiving options where somebody named Travis full gum Yes, it's now a dominant wide receiver and Zach hurts has all but disappeared yeah When you go into like a separation when you go to the boss's office and you're like hey hey boss me I'm looking for a race, you know, I'd really love to secure Every week and they're like okay, you know show us your words to the team and he's like okay, mr Boss door. I'll show you my words to this team There are two options Mike.

There is option one you're right and Zach hurts is not the same player anymore, right based on what I mean I was watching with you you have an attention to detail because he's been your starting tight end in our league of record The other option is that it's a no-dell Beckham jr. Situation from last year. It could there's some sort of injury there are no other options There's no option to say Zach hurts is elite and Carson wins is missing him. Yeah, the the separation is gone Currently and then you had the the play where he just like Zach hurts is a big dude He is a big strong dude and then someone who looked to be 50 pounds lighter than him brought him down on the one-yard line and it was Zach hurts last year or two years ago Zach hurts easily scores a touchdown and he just got taken down like a like a pillow full of feathers.

Yeah, so I Will give him the benefit of doubt something maybe going on down here now What he is a fantasy manager? Yeah, nothing if and this was the regret. I woke up I looked in the mirror and I said I knew I should have tried to trade him last week But his name was Zach hurts and I felt like I was on this island of I need to bail out on Zach hurts I got in and everyone's like no, we got let's give that Zach hurts some more time and now it's now What's done? No one will trade me for Zach hurts that is accurate I looked at your team last week and I thought to myself you guys that hurts I might go make a deal and then I went and I looked at our rosters and went what if he's washed if I People I'm not I don't want to hold the bag so I didn't offer you anything because I think it really hasn't looked good And all you could do is if you have Zach hurts at this point I think you do is wait I mean you could bench him in roster two tight ends, but no one no one is gonna trade for Zach hurts right now It give you anything of value.

He'll get a Jimmy Graham touchdown here soon and then you trade him Yes, yeah, there are a few players in the probably should trade on this week after a touchdown category. Let's get into the rewind weekly rewind Alright the Bill Titans game it is scheduled for Tuesday at seven Eastern It is still scheduled for Tuesday at seven Eastern the Titans had another positive test on Sunday morning It was from a staff member that had not been in the facility for the last two weeks So they are hopeful This is why the NFL hasn't instantaneously just canceled this game the way they did the Patriots game There are a bunch of ramifications from the Patriots Broncos having to take a week five by The message is check your schedule. Keep pay attention. Don't pretend that it's all the same I would add don't you you can't really plan ahead for your bi-weeks You know, I mean if you're looking and you're like oh these players are buying week nine I need to make this roster move You don't know the bi-weeks are going to be utilized for schedule changes and even teams that are not affected or have no COVID results on that team are going to be affected scheduling once yeah For instance the Chargers who originally had a week 10 by the now a week six by so there are adjustments That's a good point You just we don't pay a lot of attention to bi-weeks in general If you listen to us before the season, it's not a huge impact to the way we draft because we know that we are navigating these rosters There are players like Zach hurts and others that bust and move out of your lineup so Continue to not pay much attention to this year is a survival of the fittest you got to make do My personal team League of Records just oh man.

It's not been fun But this this is you know, this is what you got to struggle through and on that note the the megalobole So we've we've talked about our home leagues We're making this thing with these Tuesday night games where you can roster a replacement you announce who it's gonna be For instance if if the Tuesday night game doesn't happen. I've announced that Jared golf on my bench will be my starter over Josh Allen so I would get him and I know we've had a lot of people in the megalobole reach out and say okay You know what are we doing there? That's a lot of work on a commissioner for updating 11 other teams There are seven thousand teams the megalobole is a slug fest. This is a this is a proof your worth You're gonna have to deal with all of these things play your best roster make your best decisions and guess is it go to work That's that's it.

I mean the message here is shoot your shot. Shoot your shot. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's not how we would want it to be for Anybody this whole covid enigma year, but it is what it is in the in the megalobole like you said It's over eight thousand teams actually and we have one main commissioner kind of Administrating bad situations in that league it's just impossible for him to get through it Oh, yeah, so no commission changes just start who you think has the best chance of scoring the most points this week I have not been I mean injuries happen all the time in the NFL But the Dak Prescott injury specifically this past week and was one of the worst that I can remember when you factor everything Together card it off the field a compound fracture of his ankle a dislocation and an instant surgery last night Which went well thoughts and pressure Dak it was so sad wild so yesterday Andy and I were here at the studio We had we had our own slug festival now.

We were matched up just coincidentally in our league of record and our dynasty league So we were going back and forth it was it was a super fun day and the Dak Prescott injury happens We're like we what happened oh and then the air of the the room just completely went out It was like man fantasy football This feels kind of weird right now, but just like football, you know next man up Andy Dalton is now the starting quarterback It sounds like for Dak. He will be ready to go So like this is I know the discussions online are the long-term contract for Dak He was playing under the franchise tag he only had the one year of guaranteed money Dak should be back And he should still receive the money that he is truly deserved as a franchise quarterback if they're confident of the return Mike I was telling you yesterday. I wish Jerry Jones would give him it tomorrow. I wish that was the Motivation for the rehab on the way back, but like you said it's a lot of money to But let's talk about the fantasy fallout of that situation because there are injuries every week obviously dank is high profile But also has implications on CD lamb and Mario Cooper and Michael gallop and I think Dalton Schultz You know it seemed like he was a pickup last week that you could throw into your lineup He has won catch this week and now you have Andy Dalton moving forward He doesn't seem to be the player that I would go pivot to if I had his records No the way that I see it is it takes all of these wide receiver Receiving options and moves them down to 75% of what they were now 75% of what they were it's still good Mario Cooper and Michael gallop and CD lamb will beat decent players Dalton Schultz probably not worth it now The other three I think will take a hit But I also think Andy Dalton himself is gonna be 75% attack and that is really good as far as someone on the waivers So it's you know We'll talk about it more in-depth tomorrow But I think all three wide receivers take a hit across the board All right, this was one aspect of our slug fest that Mike and I were having Dalvin could left week five against the Seahawks last night with a groin injury.

It really seemed like There was no way they could stop him in this game And cook was on his way to having like a a season Performance against the Seahawks they could not stop the running that was evidence Yeah further Alexander Madison the backup from Minnesota came in put up a hundo on them as well Daven Cook had he not left with the groin injury man. What could have been unfortunate? Yeah, so he'll have an MRI today We don't know how long he'll be out I assume probably at least a week at least and he did Come back out on the sidelines. He like he wanted to give it a go realize he couldn't well He went out back on the field once yeah, he took one snap It was a passing play and then he tapped out.

I said no, this is that is encouraging to me from the perspective that if you get to that point He wasn't grimacing a pain in the locker room. He was trying to go back out there Maybe it'll be a shorter term injury. I will remind people though with Madison just carving up the Seahawks defense It reminds me a little bit of what the Ernest Johnson did the week before against the Cowboys Alongside cream hunt after the injury. Let's just remember that the Seahawks are the defense here Well, but the Seahawks coming into the game were ranked very highly against running backs, but this I know that but this is a situation of perhaps the past defense was just so horrendous that it The numbers were a bit of a liar.

We didn't get to see Madison when cook was injured last year Right, we saw Mike Boone a little bit of CJ ham mixed in Madison is Madison's a very good player And he will be a three-down running back. He is going to be he's the top out of the week for tomorrow's waiver show Spoiler Tune in you know yeah Yeah, I think it might depend a little bit on what your team needs tomorrow But the Auntie Johnson exited early with a back injury paving the way for the Chase Claypool plays against me in a dynasty league Mike started him I don't know why and maybe I started him Really out of necessity to flex dynasty league and my team is just ravaged with injuries and Chase Claypool was a dart Throw which by the way a dart throw that was highlighted in our DFS pass and we got word a listener placed fifth in the milli maker Whoa using listening to the DFS podcast hosted by Matthew Betts and Kyle the Borgogon Morgan Oh, so this listener came away with a cool Yeah, Mike the line between necessity and genius is very Genius yeah, the dart throw article also highlighted the number one quarterback on the week, which was their carton So should have sent in the car DFS pass calm DJ chart exited with an ankle injury Yeah, I mean he was second injury of the year for chart. Yeah, it's rough This is turning into a up and down season here for DJ charcoo He was really doing very little before the injury So when you're looking at a stat line don't try and take solace in the injury of saying well He could have had a game now. He was he was a bit hobbled I cream hunt did have some cramps at the end of the game during his Johnson's eight carries came during that time six of the eight He was not involved in this offense.

It was all cream Uh if there were player props on hamstring injuries these next two injuries would be uh, who I bet on AJ green Sammy Watkins both It's me suffer to hamstring injury Five years ago and also four years ago and three years ago and two years ago in this weekend Um Kyle Allen suffered an arm injury. This was a feel-good part of the day. Alex myth took his first snaps Everybody was terrified on earth but um Kyle Allen is gonna remain the starter against the Giants yes and Alex Smith it was it was a feel-good story it was It was an incredible moment to see Alex Smith come back if you followed the story at all if you watched the documentary Unbelievable what Alex Smith has been able to accomplish with willpower with modern medicine the dude gave Aaron Donald the piggyback, right? I don't know people saw that happen.

It's like congratulations to Alex Smith, but Kyle Allen is still the starter Yeah, if I was coming back, I would probably not choose the Aaron Donald experience on the way back in but um props to Alex Smith And then uh we have another firing Dan Quinn Uh is gone as the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons Rehemore as the interim head coach The Dan Quinn era is over And uh the Adam Gace era continues of course it does Michael Thomas this was a shock a surprise. We thought he might miss the game Yeah, I totally called this one fellas by not for disciplinary reasons Uh, he had an altercation. He punched the teammate at practice through the weekend and um Four disciplinary reasons. That's why he missed not for injury reasons.

You can't be punching people Come on Yeah, and if you're gonna send a message you might as well do it when he could use an extra week off of for an injury Well, a tomato tomato Jared Cook is expected to play tonight. This was on uh on the fence, but he's gonna play and we'll see what he can do And before we move into this week's stud muffins one thing today's sponsor. Oh for clint It's Omaha stakes, baby. Yeah, long time supporter of this show long time supporter of my mouth because I love me some Omaha snakes Come on, you know, that we're grilling all the time with the burgers are absolutely incredible from Omaha stakes And right now you can get a gourmet assortment of best sellers with an exclusive offer Just for our listeners go to Omaha stakes.com you went to the code footballers into the search bar and for this week this week Funclin Omaha stakes is gonna add two pounds of premium ground beef for free with your order plus free shipping Is that a hashtag bonus beef?

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I know you're very sensitive about him. Um, he was uh, he did hit double digits in most leaked formats But people want more mike and that's why he's so I have too many klyde-dredzaller pun showing up I understand but to the point of what you said last week he did score yes, it doesn't count That's the worst kind of score and you were very disappointed But patrick mohms they lost. I mean this was the first time I lost in almost 365 days It was also the first time that patrick mohms has ever lost by more than seven points. That's great including playoffs He's very good at football impressive win.

Oh incredibly impressive win. Yes, and they've had more than one This is their second really really impressive win one of their losses against the patriots was on a short week They had the the week where jacups and uh wallard kind of picked up I think this is a team that is going to Surprise and i'm curious if it's speaking of the raiders if they're one of those teams that you see Every year there's there's you know one or two teams that will just go out and put up a turd and go out and be amazing And you just never know which version of the team you're getting so i'm not sure if it was health in a short week And the raiders are just actually pretty good or if this is a streaky team Henry rugs helps a lot Henry rugs is a very very big difference you look at the production of dare car his willingness to go downfield in the few games We have seen with rugs. It's it is night and day. Yeah, dare car was the number one overall fantasy quarterback this week at least in our league format Sending a car 347 and three and it was it was we set it on the show on friday Henry rugs coming back the way that he changes the entire office Look What you brought up jason about is this a team that lays a turd?

The answer is yes in part because of dare car and in part because you can scheme away the underneath with dare car If you don't have Henry rugs over the top or now snaggler who's flash now this year It changes their entire office but being able to pound the ball with jacups take deep shots with rugs and improving on defense seems to make them A better team this year kyla mary kyla mary keeps getting it done 380 against the jets has dallas in seattle in the next two weeks He could end up pushing for the number one overall fantasy swatted quarterback with that gone in those two matchups you could Deshaun Watson finally had a game. Welcome to this. Yeah, he was freed No bill o' brine like go have fun go play football and also you have this guy in your team named brain and cooks Who's really fast? He's not a tire go throw him the ball a lot.

Yeah thoughts on the retirement of brain and cooks his thoughts were no I'm not yeah, he was upset yeah We motoring down fails with a big touchdown But to john wandson this was the make a break game for him We said that on the show last week too if he doesn't put up a game against jaxville You start looking at pivoting more often from Deshaun Watson It's Tennessee green bay though a couple top matchups in the next couple weeks russell welson Was not having a game, but then had a game He had a really poor game That was great for fantasy congratulations if you have russell welson Also great for the NFL he won the game because if you put the ball in his hands with a chance to win at the end with over a minute left to go Uh, he's gonna do it every time ryan fits patrick another great fantasy week for fits patrick This was an impressive win for miami over san francisco Um, they got jimmy garoppolo bench Not out of him. Miami dolvins Sent the starting quarterback for the 49ers to the bench the dolphins are not the jets are the giants No, and that should be like there from miami You that's a solid point jason But you had traditionally put those bottom dwelling teams into a certain category The match up against miami is not the same seattle and miami had a competitive game Miami just beat the crap out of the 49ers and the 49ers mop the floor with the giants and jets being yeah, so i mean jere goff Uh, he had a game Oh, yes Uh Nice to see the bounce back big bin big bin had a game too one of the streaming candidates for last week 2434 three touchdowns he owes somebody a bouquet of edible arrangements. You're talking about mr. Chase claypool.

Yes I am I will say this with that chase claypool break out. I was thinking about this I don't know the status of deontay johnson's back injury But if the deontay johnson's looked great and I assume he would have had a phenomenal game if he didn't exit with injury but claypool is clearly a Very good dominant weapon that can be used here and if they get all three of these players You know with juju and deontay johnson and claypool big bin is is gonna have a good fantasy season rest of season if those three guys are out there Yeah, that was one of the things we were saying in the office yesterday the ceiling for big bin changes with the emergence of an alpha Like claypool. He is very much like the impact dk meck f is had on seattle where you have a guy Look, I respect and love tyler locket for what he is He is not the size of tk meck f sure and when you have a player and or chase claypool and claypool just man handles people It raises the touchdown ceiling for big bin. Mm-hmm.

Great. Unstoppable mike davis. Oh, was it was this the farewell party? I don't know what do you think do you think cm sees on his way back?

I think he is the I mean, I think that christian macafree is back and when once christian macafree is back He is the dude. Oh, yeah moving forward But if it does the team look at mike davis and say christian if you're at 85 Take it easy, man. We can get you back to 100 We're okay here with with mike davis until you are ready to go Yeah, i was thinking what it would be like to be this human being you are Dominating mike davis mike davis you're mike you are dominating and then if you are legit great not good and Whatever christian macafree comes back. It's gonna be like all right you go go go warm the bench Yeah, and it will be that it will be yeah, and it just shows how good christian macafree would have been over these three games We had wondered if he would be the same player with this offense and this office is playing well Nine receptions from the running back position again for my davis.

He has tied for the league lead at the running back position That's what you wanted to hear about christian. I mean, he's that he's currently the running back nine on the season He didn't start two of the games. Hopefully he he's getting get a bag from somebody Yeah, I mean, it's great that they actually had somebody on the depth chart this time Yeah, I mean christian macafree in previous years there was nobody sure Zeke Nice game for Zeke does he take more of a responsibility for this office at this point? Yes, he will and he's gonna smash Arizona next week Yep, uh, Todd girly deserves Uh our respect.

I mean this has been a solid solid year for girly. He had another great week 14 for 121 and one Uh had five targets in this one and at this point in time. Are you trading high on girly? Are you holding him?

I mean the touchdowns I doubt they continue at this pace, but what are you doing with them? I mean, I think if you can trade high and capitalize on the name and the fact that I mean he's you know, Todd girly's A top 10 running back right now. He scored more fantasy points than joe mix in the clide Edwards a layer than Jonathan Taylor Um, you might be able to really get something great for him. What about those three players?

Yeah, I would trade them for one of those three players if you could trade them straight up for those guys done deal mild sanders I would include in that um I that girly's Fantasy production has been a little bit too touchdown dependent to think that it's going to be this consistent the rest of the season Right, and you had coach. We'll see what happens mild sanders now Mike and I we were in our league of record battle and uh Look you weren't feeling great about mild sanders starting this week against Pittsburgh, right? No, it was it was an absolute terrible match upon sunny live. I was expressing my like my my concerns My worry for mild sanders and then boom 74 yard touchdown run for mild sanders looking like an absolute savage That feels like Mike when you know that your opponent has mild sanders against the vaunted Pittsburgh defense And he's doing nothing in fact he did uh, he had 10 other carries in the game other than a 74 yard touchdown run Yeah, average 0.6 yards per carry on them.

Yeah, so 74 yards touchdown run finished the game with 80 yards On the ground, but he didn't have the two touchdowns. So he dominated for fantasy purposes It was it turned into a great play, but that was if don't be the process was correct saying be scared Yes to start him. Don't be fooled going forward that these Steelers run defense is soft or you know, right? They are they are elite There was one play on the season that that did not work But this will disrupt the analytics because he scored another touchdown Which means the fancy points given up to the running back position for the Steelers this week was awful Uh-huh and not true of the circumstances really although at least we know they can give up a 74 yard run Josh Jacobs another great game from Jacobs.

This was so funny because we talked about how Jacobs really all he so far in his short career. His good games come in wins I mean, you know his multi touchdown games. They come in wins. This is a game where they're on the road heavily underdog This isn't gonna be a good game for Jacobs But then it turns out that the race put up 40 and win the game and it's a great game for Jacobs He looks like we were right in the sense that in games that the Raiders win Jacobs is very good We were just wrong that they I mean, what would you have put the odds at the Raiders win this game very low 10% Yeah, I didn't look like it was gonna happen and neither did Jacobs good game until they started getting going The RB6 on the season, but this is why players like mixing in Jacobs.

You just play them every week You don't you don't try to chase other points elsewhere. You just play your studs Um speaking of chase chase seven minutes Three for 36 and a touchdown on the ground six targets again five for 56 through the air dials Seattle's good match ups But can you drag can you drink was 18 for 60 and one? Um I don't know where he would live in today's show. I guess he would live further on the good than bad But I will tell you I watched every one of those 18 carries I was very Discouraged with what I saw a player running slowly laterally.

He honestly looked like gave a johnson in his own last year It was great that he got into the end zone if it's me. I'm trying as hard as I can to cash in on king and drake this week What do you guys think I would trade him? Yeah, I don't blame you cashing in on him And I think that if you can sell high The routes run between ken and drake and chase admins change this week the passing game involvement like if you look at the carries This chase admins is is not involved. He you know, he comes in has great surprise touchdown run, but carry count It's all it's all drake and I don't think that's going away even with the inefficiencies of drake But what we've really been missing is the involvement in the passing game for drake and we said there was gonna be changed this week Either they're gonna get more involved or chase is gonna be more involved and chase was more involved So to your point andy, I think yeah, you can you can try to capitalize if you're afraid that it's going to be this way for the rest of the season Um, I I also think he is getting a ton of volume and for fantasy That's what matters the most of the end of the day even if you're inefficient you fall into the end zone and you have a decent game and It's called the david Montgomery approach that I've been taking yeah, the for drake It's if you can trade high I would do it You don't you're not trying to get rid of ken and drake for free because he's still getting the volume But I do believe that this game signifies a drastic change in the ceiling for a ken and drake seeing the six targets for edmunds and the one for drake I just yep I just want to remember because there's there are not many people that get the amount of workload that drake has been getting like there's sure You know, you can count them on both your hands and that's it and so getting out is a little Worries some in the sense that you know last year we saw this with joe mixing right he was three yards of carry through the first half of the season Yeah, efficient and I don't want to hard one.

This is opinions right sure But I do want to stress the fact that ken and drake looks terrible running the football This is not a player that looks anything like last year Joe mixon watching him at the beginning of the year last year in my opinion was running as hard as he ever had run and it came to fruition later I if I were planning my flag I'd be planning my flag on disappointment if he didn't fall into the end zone yesterday We would have been telling you to get out. This is just my opinion sure I understand the volume argument I just saw a really really bad player. I don't know what happened we said he gained weight There's a lot of talk about I saw on twitter a lot of talk about the boot There could be an injury here There's got to be something that happened because he doesn't look nearly as explosive as last year And they're not using him in the passing game, which makes no sense of he's the same player Yeah, miles gasket. Oh the gas man.

Jordan how does a healthy scratch? Yes, and that turned into a goal line. Harry from miles gasket like This is why I kept bringing the name I mean you you chase it the volume of ken and drake You could not deny the volume of miles gasket over the first couple weeks it was You're never like, yeah I'm getting miles gasket seventh round pick and he's gonna turn into a star for my fantasy team But he could be a he could be a solid running back to a Lindsey year for miles gas The problem with gasket and what was said is he's getting volume he'll have a great floor He'll get you 10 points, but when you get down around that goal line He has no chance of scoring that Because it's Howard and Howard being a healthy healthy scratch that changes everything now you have a high floor with touchdown upside Devonta Freeman had 17 carries in this game against Dallas. He also scored Uh, I told you last Thursday.

I was gonna play him over him. Oh, mccoll hardman and I worked out and uh, you know, it's a volume play I don't think he looks that bad. I really don't he does he looks okay. Yeah, uh, chase claypool Maple tron 11 targets 7 for one 10 and three had a rushing touchdown Uh, he ran only 23 routes, which is just incredible.

This reminds me of the uh Was it Marvin Jones and Cincinnati when he had one of those three touching yeah And he ran almost no routes over the course of the game now This is I mean he was more involved in Marvin Jones was but this everything came together for chase claypool this week in a breakout performance And I if you've listened to the show through the offseason You know that I was amongst those on the very front of the of the claypool bandwagon Love the guys Opportunity the draft capital the athletic profile chase claypool and the Steelers hit rate with wide receivers It was you get this guy in your rookie dress because he has the makeup to eventually become a number one Now James Washington still had a much higher uh route rate 90 compared to chase claypool at 67 So I This is a moment of celebration and and a party for chase claypool, but you need to have at least some caution here If you're gonna go all in on chase claypool know that he this could be like the game for the season You would expect you would hope that chase claypool has proven his worth through the team that they're going to get him far more involved But that is not a guarantee I completely agree and we have to remember dianc i got knocked out of this game The beginning so dianc johnson juju james washington claypool ebron connor there are multiple weapons here Long term man. You should be excited for claypool. I agree and we remember juju the contract right? He's not coming back from the money that he wants.

Yeah, uh travis fulldom. Oh dammit Thirteen targets 10 for 152 and one of you. You weren't joking. He was actually done was against pittsburgh He had six total targets in his career coming into this game.

Yeah, this would be the eagles wide receiver brooks wants us to remind you I mean it's good for you, man. Yeah, that's awesome Yeah, I you know what's that hurts cannot do full-gum can brand well Scuzacers is taking all the coverage because he he runs these really slow on crisp routes But he still got the name on the back. Yeah, all we got to take out the number one option Yeah, this was uh, honestly a pretty impressive performance like Went getting it done against pittsburgh the gavian competitive obviously at the end it fell apart Um brandy cooks on retired. He decided to check himself out of the retirement facility without permission And um a good luck chasing these points.

Yeah, I mean his of all the of all the retirements were you know, he's he's young he's proven There's so much change happening for the Texans. You're right, Andy in the sense that this is chasing points He's gonna be a high volatility player that's not consistent, but I don't think this is a new yeah I don't think this is his last good game or you know an outlier that's not gonna happen a couple times through the year It's just really when you're playing that will fuller brand and cooks Flip of the coin. It's it's gonna be gross and and you can land on cooks You're going to need to start those players every single week if you want the chance of hitting those big games These are these are great best ball players and you know, I uh yesterday morning I helped my son set his lineup and her family is playing for the first time. I was like, oh, you got to take brain and cooks out of your mind.

Oh no Right Look the disparity is highlighted in the last two games. He played 94 percent of snaps last week against a bad minnesota secondary He had three targets. No catches this week against jacks until 12 targets eight catches There's a completely different ball game now. I want to be clear though.

Will Fuller's thought a great game Will Fuller's thought a great fantasy week, which is other than the week he was injured. He's been consistent each and every week So this the hope the hope here is not in brand and cooks and not in will fuller It's into sean watson. It's in the fact that the the offensive guy running the show is gone And there's a change in mentality a change in what they might want to do and unleash de sean watson and that this could become A new normal that is the hope that we're you know because we do have to recognize bill brian is gone And de sean watson went off if de sean watson goes off his receivers are gonna get completely yeah adam thielin He's outstanding always open. I know I always wonder how he can just target him on every play he wants to and uh, It's because he's always open.

He's the wonder clover one Is he really? Wow less brooks is lying to me. I'm on it. I wouldn't do that to you He is uh, the wider see the last he has three top five finishes in five games this year If you look at his bad game it came against the very uh stout cults defense But uh lander next week is that gonna stand in his way from a uh continuing this streak?

No, he's he's been great. He's always been a underrated great wider receiver Yeah, and uh, you know as long as kurr cousins shows up feeling shows up matt calf He's good. He is incredible and um if you look at his games this year, he's got I think four catches and like four out of five of them He's he's above 90 yards in every game. He has 300 yard games caught two touchdowns last night five touchdowns in five games He is maturing into the alpha.

He is uh that you look at for future like dynasty I saw jj's a kurr zakari's a recent talk about this. He just tweeted it boldly dk matt calf the dynasty number one pick Do you agree with that? He's attached to russell for the next 10 years of his career? I mean I I would probably take tariq hill And maybe to maybe devonta atoms probably devonta atoms But I mean he's in the conversation for sure.

I think he's worthy of it only you know Does devonta atoms have two years with rogers? I don't know It's just interesting when you're 22 and you're dominating in your second season Uh 22.5 yards per reception my son was watching this game. He's got dk matt calf So he's just a monster fan and uh, so he's calling for him to be targeted in every single way But it feels like a player you can target on every single play because he's too big To you lose the risk of throwing an interception when he can out jump you or put you to the ground as a db So mecha one chase quite cool too Not sure about that uh the onary hopkins great game 641 31 and 1 he's the wide receiver for on the season And I and I just did the math here uh on that the driver he scored the touchdown in two receptions He had 82 of his yards So like on that drive they were the Cardinals were buried and two just monster passes into the onary hopkins I was actually really happy to see the downfield targets for hopkins on both those throws because he had been a ppr underneath kind of player So it's nice to see him get downfield targets. Jason.

You've got james and crowder in our league of record. Oh me Jameson crowder. I love it. I love him.

He's great. All he's done so far has had three great games He missed two to injury and outside of that. He has yet to have a game under 100 yards um a game under double digit targets what more do you want there's someone who's Just I mean he was the water super eight the water super 20 the water super seven in his three games played It's not gonna stay there because he's already got two touchdowns at three games and he's not a I don't think the scores are going to be coming that way But if you're telling me 10 targets 100 yards Yes, please buy sell hold hold hold hold I don't think you want to buy you're gonna have to pay up and Maybe I don't know if you can get cheaper than than you should then yeah, absolutely I'm very so many of the games came on people's benches Because of perception name or Joe flak. I mean look he's had two great games before this week Jason you started him, but you've kind of been backed in I've been backed into starting james to crowd about the last two weeks Uh delightfully yes, it's been it's been great All right, Henry rugs had two for one 18 and one one touch guy I mean he's gonna be somebody that you can throw out there and like I would say greater sign McCall hardman because he's more important to the offense.

He's gonna be running more rounds than hardman But same type of thing. Yes. He's on a buy this week. Are you willing to drop him?

I am. Oh absolutely not no way. No No, Henry rugs is a just as viable of a pickup to me as chase claypools through a buy where you can't play Yeah, I think he's somebody that you're gonna want on your roster. Someone hasn't been hit as hard by I'm like my bench spots are worth gold right now Yeah, I mean if you if you're in a position where you can't roster a bi-week player then you have to drop him But I think he is worthy of rostrang thought he was last week Preston Williams five targets four four one oh six and one nice to see him have a game Calvin Ridley 10 targets eight four one thirty six dj more mind.

He finally got into the end zone He finally did it. Yeah, but let's look at this disparity here five targets for dj more 13 targets for Robbie Anderson Anderson with eight and one twelve again We know who the favorite receiver is for Teddy Bridgewater Chicago next week. What do you do with the jimlin? DJ more is a flex play who you can look at the match up.

So maybe you don't want to play him against Chicago I don't I don't blame you. I have DJ more on our league of record. I will be you know I'll be looking at my bench players. Maybe I have someone who has a more A more preferable matchup, but he is a flex player who he can do this on a regular basis I completely agree with you.

He's a flex player who can do this He's gonna have several more great games because he's an athletic freak Who's involved in what looks to be a good offense and I would sell high I would sell because He on the on the back of a good game with draft capital still, you know We're only a month into the season where people drafted him high I would see if you can capitalize and upgrade because he's the water super 215 He has scored in four games over the last two seasons So if there was a time to cash in you might as well do it now if you're in that camp If you believe what you brought me Anderson is on pace for over 150 targets He's a volume guy which has never been a big guy. Yeah. Well, yeah, we already knew he had the big play potential That's why we assumed his role is gonna be downfield and you know less involved in the volume But so far. I mean we've got five weeks now where he's the clear number one for Teddy I will tell you this.

I mean fantasy football. Look we we look at it all day long every day. We watch every game The Robbie Anderson situation as a fantasy football manager of Robbie Anderson in a dynasty like this has been one of the most surprising things Yeah, I've seen happen when I didn't think I had a player of value in a dynasty like then he went to Carolina and I go oh great Teddy B, DJ Moore Curtis Samuel, Christian McCaffrey. Oh great.

This was not the destination I went for Robbie Anderson And I was wrong. Yeah, I'm wrong. I dare you slate and Jason. You said taking it to 100 He was great 11 targets eight for one 29 Touchdown call back This yeah, he did and he would have had an even bigger game.

So that was great to see see the wider. Should you start in uh, yes? Yeah, I mean he's another one of those volatile players But in a good matchup, you're gonna I think you'll be happy to start very slight more often than not And then you've got uh the big boys Kelsey Andrews waller big tight end weeks That's and that's the order of the season. That's the fan that's just fantastic You I was supposed to be I was supposed to be rather than to do this good job Keep it up be the first second and third tight ends.

You guys are great Uh, well, there's a name missing. Yeah, I mean zegert zegertz. Yeah, zegertz is not one of the big names anymore Darren fells two targets two for 57 and one I think brooks put this in there because I tweeted five minutes before the game started that Darren fells was gonna have a game Also 57 and one is a great game for a tight end. Yeah, that's what shocking.

It's a top five game and he had Two catches, but uh, anybody else want to talk about the studs that we missed? Nope. All right, let's move on Stinkers of the week presented by odor eaters Jimmy Grappler matt ryan joe burrow daniel jones stink stank stunk Look man matt ryan This I highlighted this on the sunny live. I've been down the road with matt ryan when hulio jones is not on the field Nope Nope, I cover these excellent cover these incredible.

He had a great game But until I see matt ryan can actually play without hulio jones. Nothing. Nope hard pass I saw so many people So I couldn't believe how many people were upset they played joe burrow. I'm like who's who?

Why are we playing joe burrow? He's so rookie it gets Baltimore. Nobody recommended to play joe. I like hundreds of Twitter comments of like me and I know I shouldn't have but I did it's like it's an Icarus situation here Luge close to the sun.

No, this was the writing was on the wall all week long This is not the kind of matchup you want for a rookie quarterback and he was disastrous. Yeah, he's gonna be great He is great, but he's a rookie and play the matt ryan Yeah, daniel jones, um, hoof man hoof They the giant score 34 points and daniel jones didn't seem to get any of those Fumbled again fumbled in four straight games. He loves fumbling fumbling is his thing At fumble on twitter is his handle his middle name is Daniel fumble jones. That's not a nickname That's what his parents gave them his parents probably should not have done that I think it set him up for failure or fumble Sometimes james winston fumbles and calls it a daniel jones.

That's where we're at with daniel jones. Yep, daniel fumbled. John. Sorry Clyde Edwards a layer showed up It was 10 for 40.

I think that was One of the surprising pieces the involvement wasn't really their eight targets though. I mean, I I don't feel like we need to do anything with it. Clyde Edwards a layer. You don't need to apologize for him and you don't need to pretend It's better than it is.

It's just he's gonna have good games. I'm still trading for Clyde Edwards a layer Lev bell 13 for 60 and we have one target one target for labia on bell. What is happening? Which was egregious in mike's mind.

I mean we knew this already. This isn't shocking He wasn't good last year with the gay system. He wasn't good this year before the injury You know, he was I thought they would fire him this week if he lost and then they're really well on that number one pick Does your opinion change heavily on lev bell of gays is out the door? Yeah.

Yeah. I did watch this game and said to myself man he just He the player that lev bell is needs a different system Yeah, I totally agree. But the fact that that leaving a bell is getting one target is is completely egregious. Yeah, you're wasting the talent.

Yes, you still had nine carries to frank gorg Like what are you doing? Nine nine to many James Robinson? Uh, this wasn't a great game 13 for 48 five for 22 through the air though So in ppr you were okay stay the course the volume is there. Yeah, I like the targets.

They keep coming in Antonio Gibson This was this was so insane and bizarre because so Antonio Gibson one of his player props out there was an over under of 18 and a half receiving yards and it was this is the easiest player prop of smash the over I think I've ever seen with Kyle Allen coming in the Antonio Gibson hits 24 receiving yards in the first quarter And that's what he ended up with five for 24 11 carries 27 yards I believe the staff was as soon as Alex Smith came in and Tony Gibson had one touch Like I don't know what happened with the game plan when once Smith was in and not getting Antonio Gibson the ball But there's no who got the ball to though. McKissick. That's the part that's concerning It would have been really easy to say the second the kylell and switch to Smith Okay, he just didn't look Gibson's way but Gibson wasn't on the field right and so it was bewildering I don't know what happened every time I looked up it was jade mckissick getting a target or some involvement in the offense Um, I don't know it was a bad game. I mean he ends up 11 for 27 with five targets in the first quarter and nothing else Yes, really obnoxious to see a player on his way to a fantastic game and then just stall out in the first quarter Jerick mckin none.

Yeah, none. Yeah, I mean, yeah, so let me ask you this one care Uh, what shock he only was in on 25% of snaps. Oh, okay So he was pretty much just not really a part of this game Do you throw this game in the garbage? This is a game where you got but you got kicked in the teeth by the dolphins You bench your quarterback at halftime you take the l on the chin because that is the way I look at it Like I hate this that he went out and had a bad game But I'm not gonna like this game was gone as soon as it started if if you were tracking the game It was like half time was didn't didn't the dolphins have won 30 points?

It's like 30 to 7 or so it was it was a dominant performance by the dolphins Uh, it is really hard to extrapolate any information moving forward. I don't throw the game away I'm jerry ken is probably on my bench now. Yeah. I mean this was a game.

Most it was coming back in Uh, anyways, so I don't throw it all I mean you're right the game script was not one where you were gonna see Their running offense get going but that is something that is gonna be most recenter not not mckinon centered So I I was worried about mckinon with most are coming back to begin with I am worried moving forward on any type of reliability with mckinon with most are back in the game and you've got donald next week and the Patriots so a couple weeks of probably benching him and seeing what happens right? Mark engram 11 for 57 par for the course he said stop and got one carry looked incredible on the one carry Why isn't he getting more carries? They're giving everyone a chance Uh, mariku per tylor locket people the sentiment I saw most often when I went through all of the puns this morning was frustration with tylor locket because two great games Um, and then not a lot of involvement last night Well, it it got compounded by the fact that both tylor locket and dk metcalf had nothing nothing going into half time I think I had messaged our company slack like if you had the combination of the two players It was something like two receptions for 20 yards between the two players, but then dk meff goes out blows up Ends up having a great game anti-lock it was left in the dust which I think compounded the perception, but I wouldn't be worried about Just saying of the frustration if people are frustrated or worried I think you go and in trade for tylor locket if you could get him cheap He's on a buy it was a it was a rainy game and at the end if you remember I mean look tylor locket dropped the ball He shouldn't have he should have caught that right on the one yard line might have scored the touchdown for the game winner And then you're like, oh, yeah, he you know, then he would have been 65 yards in a touchdown and dk metcalf doesn't get that last touchdown, right He's you know, this wasn't a great game for russell wilson in general you you saw that I mean that first half just getting sack like crazy Um, yeah, I'm not worried about him at all. I'll bring up some names.

You guys just tell me if you are worried tarry mcclaurant seven targets no 26 quarterback uh lack of Continuity there like I said weird game for washington with the going from kyle allen to the the trying for return of alix smith We need to see some normalcy before we react Tyler boyd six targets. This was the Baltimore game. Whatever. Nope.

Yeah, but Yeah, I mean boyd was probably more of the james and krada contingency plan for people than a plan sure jiu-jiu five targets four for 28 He's been touchdown dependent and diante johnson's the number one Maybe chase glaipals the number one if the aunte is going to miss time But yeah, I would I would be a little bit more worried about jiu-jiu than the rest of these people that you're talking about Justin jeperson who I thought would have a much better game. Yeah, skunk it up Uh, are you worried about jefferson? I'm not he's a rookie. This is gonna happen dibbo had eight targets with two catches Probably san by and see what happens at quarterback.

Yeah, absolutely the eight targets is actually Nice that's very positive to me dibbo was still not in the consideration to play He was he was a bench that you you saw 35% of snaps last week. It was okay Let's let him work his way back from injury, but to come back to eight targets. All right. All right, all right All right Deciding on certain tight ends for rest of season is something that's kind of important around week four five six who you can depend on Uh, we talked about zach earth at the top.

I mean this was terrible six targets one for six Don't need to talk about him anymore. Um, but you know dulton sholtz just one catch tyler higby higby was two for 12 Everett was four for 90 Not a lot of routes run by either player. What are your thoughts right now? Yeah, this is a they're using them to block.

Um, I worry about both of these players We we knew this was good matchup for tight ends. We said it could be higby, but it could very easily be ever ever had a great game for A tiny york for tight ends fantastic. I'm not super excited about either of these guys only one topped one t finish on Through five weeks for higby. I have to adjust thoughts on him dulton sholtz not confident moving forward hidden herst That experiment seems to be yeah, look haden herst russell gage Zacchaeus that if you don't have hulio Matt ryan is like really is okay, but without hulio you think these other guys step up you think okay This is where russell gage is gonna be more involved in the offense I know it doesn't work.

It matt ryan just isn't as good when hulio's out of the game. Yeah, it's like marked I mean like a very obvious difference. All right, we might have to retire him guys my alley cocks Not only one target only ran nine routes and unfortunately trebubu trebord has led the team over the last two weeks in terms of targets and routes run and Well, alley cocks is too big to share and when he's in a three, you know what I mean like when he is in Three-headed tight end group that's this un first of all unnecessary You don't need him at all to be out there with any other tight ends Just give her to them But if the coach is making the clear wrong decision of having other tight ends other than mo alley cocks Then I think you obviously can't use them for fantasy Can I please say something out loud Jason that you will love oh, that sounds great There is no offense. I hate watching more this season than the indianapolis call and why Andy because Sucks every catch I mean t y helton had his best game of the year, which was still not even double digits in most formats Maybe if you're a ppr every catch that t y helton made in that game was sliding to the ground to catch the ball before hit the ground The running game can't get going rivers can't score touchdown because roger go rocket ship Oh, yeah, the leading score in all the football because all they do is kick field goals It is the most boring hard to watch offense in football now They have a defense and they can make the playoffs and yada yada But for fantasy purposes I look away.

I have a message I need to I need to speak directly to frank rick right now. Please do I just want to point something out We're silly fantasy football players fantasy analysts. Yes, you know living in mom's basement You know just looking at the sta Right losers week one mo alley-cocks was the tight end 28 against jackseville. That was a loss for the enapolis cold Tight end 10.

Okay, that's pretty good. They won all right tight end five They won tight end at 12 mo alley-cocks in chicago. That was another big win Tied for dead last among fantasy tight ends a loss to cleveland. I'm not saying I'm just saying Can you brooks?

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