Welcome To Hell: Steve Ellen

We’re back in homeschooling hell at our place, so I’m sharing my office with my two kids, which might be why Nelly Thomas brought us a real live psychiatrist! He’s not even just a psychiatrist, he is many, many things. His name is Steve Ellen, but we can call him Professor Steve Ellen if we want to. You might’ve seen him on TV or heard him on the radio or bought his excellent book called Mental, which he wrote with comedian Catherine Deveney. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.