"We're Doing Miserably."

The leaders of U.S. influence operations met at a conference in Florida recently and concluded the United States is not performing well in the face of Russian and Chinese efforts. Patrick Tucker, the science and technology editor at Defense One, discusses his reporting on that conclusion and the reasons why succeeding in this fight doesn't get the investment it deserves. We also review reporting on a former Florida sheriff's deputy now running a disinformation network with at least 160 fake news sites from Moscow and the latest reporting from OpenAI on state-use of their platform by Russia, China, Iran, and Israel.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.