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EPISODE · Jul 14, 2025 · 41 MIN

“We’re Not Lazy, We’re Just Done With Broken Systems” ft. Sonny White

from The Heald Approach – Leadership. Sustainability. Inclusion. Real Talk. · host Rebecca Heald

EPISODE SUMMARY:Forget everything you think you know about Gen Z in the workplace.In this raw and real conversation, I sit down with Sonny White, a rising fire safety professional who isn’t just following in his powerhouse mum’s footsteps, he’s rewriting the rulebook.Sonny calls out toxic work cultures, outdated apprenticeship processes, and the myth that young people “don’t want to work.” He shares exactly what his generation expects from employers and why ticking the bare minimum box won’t cut it anymore.We dive into:🚨 Why his generation refuses to “flog themselves to death for a paycheck”🔥 The brutal truth about apprenticeships and why the system is driving young talent away📱 How social media is shaping work expectations and leadership accountability🧠 What employers are getting wrong and what needs to change if we want to attract and retain the future of this industry.If you care about the future of construction, engineering, and leadership, this one’s non-negotiable.🎧 Listen in if you're:A leader frustrated by 'quiet quitting' and low engagementStruggling to attract or retain younger talentReady to drop the top-down BS and build workplaces that work for everyone🔗 LINKS & MENTIONSConnect with Sonny White on LinkedInAndrea White (Sonny’s mum & founder of Women Talking Fire)My chat with Andrea White, Previous Episode]Follow The Heald Approach on Spotify | Instagram | YouTube]🎤 RATE, REVIEW, AND SHARELoved this episode? Let’s make some noise.💬 Leave a review📲 Share it with a colleague👀 Subscribe for more unfiltered conversations that challenge the status quo

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EPISODE SUMMARY:Forget everything you think you know about Gen Z in the workplace.In this raw and real conversation, I sit down with Sonny White, a rising fire safety professional who isn’t just following in his powerhouse mum’s footsteps, he’s...

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