EPISODE · Jun 21, 2025 · 41 MIN
We're Still Here with Simon and Julie
from The John Fugelsang Podcast
This week on We’re Still Here, Julie Francella and Simon Moya-Smith join John to reflect on Juneteenth and the deep, often overlooked history of Black-Indigenous solidarity—from Afro-Indigenous freedom fighters to interwoven kinship systems that resisted colonial violence together. They discuss Julie’s latest Substack post exploring the Seven Grandfather Teachings and Senator Mike Lee’s latest political maneuverings, while also taking thoughtful and inspirational calls from listeners. The conversation also touches on the horrific legacy—and ongoing reality—of forced birth control and the continuing sterilization of Indigenous women in Greenland, Canada, and the United States. Plus, they unpack Trump’s recent withdrawal from a key salmon protection agreement with native tribes. Then, they celebrate Simon’s beautiful contribution to the brand new book "A Steady Brightness of Being: Truths, Wisdom, and Love from Celebrated Indigenous Voices" which is available now from Penguin Random House.Simon Moya-Smith - instagram.com/simonsaidtakeapic threads.com/@simonsaidtakeapicJulie’s Substack “The Fire I Keep” https://substack.com/@juliefrancella?r=1u83jb&utm_medium=iosCheck out Julie's artwork on her website - juliefrancella.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This week on We’re Still Here, Julie Francella and Simon Moya-Smith join John to reflect on Juneteenth and the deep, often overlooked history of Black-Indigenous solidarity—from Afro-Indigenous freedom fighters to interwoven kinship systems that resisted colonial violence together. They discuss Julie’s latest Substack post exploring the Seven Grandfather Teachings and Senator Mike Lee’s latest political maneuverings, while also taking thoughtful and inspirational calls from listeners. The conversation also touches on the horrific legacy—and ongoing reality—of forced birth control and the continuing sterilization of Indigenous women in Greenland, Canada, and the United States. Plus, they unpack Trump’s recent withdrawal from a key salmon protection agreement with native tribes. Then, they celebrate Simon’s beautiful contribution to the brand new book "A Steady Brightness of Being: Truths, Wisdom, and Love from Celebrated Indigenous Voices" which is available now from Penguin Random House.Simon Moya-Smith - instagram.com/simonsaidtakeapic threads.com/@simonsaidtakeapicJulie’s Substack “The Fire I Keep” https://substack.com/@juliefrancella?r=1u83jb&utm_medium=iosCheck out Julie's artwork on her website - juliefrancella.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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