What a $42B Software Co. Really Spends on AI Tools

from Gradient Dissent: Conversations on AI

“I don't worry about being replaced by AI. I worry about being replaced by someone who's really good at using AI.”Atlassian has 10,000+ engineers currently split-testing the world’s top AI coding tools, from GitHub Copilot and Cursor to Claude Code. In this episode, Co-Founder & CEO Mike Cannon-Brookes joins Lukas Biewald to share what their data reveals about the world's best AI tools today.Hear how 24 years of building a tech giant and a massive internal study on AI productivity have shaped Mike's vision for the future of dev jobs.Connect with us here:Mike Cannon-Brookes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcannonbrookes/?originalSubdomain=auAtlassian: https://www.linkedin.com/company/atlassian/?viewAsMember=trueLukas Biewald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lbiewald/ Weights & Biases: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wandb/00:00 Trailer01:08 Introduction03:11 Connecting Technology and Business Teams07:22 The Impact of AI on Business Workflows13:26 Developer Productivity and AI21:03 Measuring Developer Efficiency25:41 Future of AI in Development34:59 Legacy Technology and Code Changes39:29 AI's Role in Developer Productivity47:40 AI and Junior Developers52:30 Product-Led Growth and Business Strategy01:00:29 Core Metrics for Sustainable Growth01:06:56 Staying Creative in the Tech Industry

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