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EPISODE · Oct 21, 2025 · 1H 9M

What Comes After No Kings?

from The Telos News Podcast with Ryan Lizza · host Ryan Lizza and Steve Schmidt

In our weekly chat, Steve Schmidt and I discuss:* The growing pains in the coalition that has formed against Trump, including why clear-eyed Trump critics such as Andrew Sullivan refused to join the protests on Saturday* Gavin Newsom’s wise decision to close a stretch of I-5 before the Marines, at the insistence of the Trump administration, fired live artillery over the highway, including one shell that detonated prematurely in mid-air and scattered shrapnel onto two California Highway Patrol vehicles that were part of JD Vance’s security detail* Kristi Noem’s Gulfstreams* Why I was driving around downtown Washington during the No Kings protests in a red pickup truck with a “Fire Pelosi” bumper sticker on the back (it’s not what it sounds like!)* And, of course, the Toronto Blue JaysThank you Nadine Smith, Dianne Mize, Angie T, joe alter, Jacqueline Dorinda Maddox, and many others for tuning into our chat. You can join me and Steve on Substack Live every Monday at noon.Telos subscribers: Please use this link to get 20% off a paid subscription to The Warning with Steve Schmidt. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.telos.news/subscribe

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