EPISODE · Jun 22, 2026 · 55 MIN
What does success mean? Learning from a high achiever with a traumatic past with Jane Marie Chen [Episode 168]
from The Intentional Clinician: Psychology, Philosophy, Therapy, & Change · host Paul Krauss MA LPC
Paul Krauss MA LPC interviews Jane Marie Chen about her personal life as well as her experience developing a low-cost incubator for prematurely-born babies that has saved more than 1,000,000 babies so far. The conversation addressed how childhood trauma and adverse childhood experiences (ACEs) impact high achievers who mask deep emotional wounds beneath professional success, examining Chen's journey from celebrated social entrepreneur to confronting the debilitating rage, self-doubt, and self-loathing that stemmed from growing up in a home marked by domestic violence. Jane Marie Chen opens up about childhood and the impact of trauma on her life and her path to healing. Jane Marie Chen is a globally recognized entrepreneur, inventor, and speaker who co-founded Embrace Global, which developed a groundbreaking low-cost, portable infant incubator that has saved more than 1,000,000 premature babies in the developing world. She received her MBA from Stanford Graduate School of Business and her MPA from Harvard Kennedy School, earning accolades including an audience with President Obama at the White House and a check hand-delivered by Beyoncé. Her latest book, Like A Wave We Break: A Memoir of Falling Apart and Finding Myself (Penguin Random House), is a raw and powerful exploration of how her professional success masked unhealed childhood trauma from growing up as a Taiwanese American survivor of abuse. Get involved with the National Violence Prevention Hotline: 501(c)(3) Donate Share with your network Write your congressperson Sign our Petition Preview an Online Video Course for the Parents of Young Adults (Parenting Issues) Unique and low cost learning opportunities through Shion Consulting Paul Krauss MA LPC is a Cofounder of Health for Life Counseling Grand Rapids, home of The Trauma-Informed Counseling Center of Grand Rapids. Paul is also a Private Practice Psychotherapist, an Approved EMDRIA Consultant , host of the Intentional Clinician podcast, Behavioral Health Consultant, Clinical Trainer, Counseling Supervisor, and Meditation Teacher. Paul is now offering consulting for a few individuals and organizations. Paul is the creator of the National Violence Prevention Hotline as well as the Intentional Clinician Training Program for Counselors. Paul has been quoted in the Washington Post, NBC News, Wired Magazine, and Counseling Today. Questions? Call the office at 616-200-4433. If you are looking for EMDRIA consulting groups, Paul Krauss MA LPC is now hosting a weekly online group. For details, click here. For general behavioral and mental health consulting for you or your organization. Follow Health for Life Counseling- Grand Rapids: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube Original Music: ”Alright” from the album Mystic by PAWL (Spotify) “Begin Again” from Four Days in June by Shabason & Krgovich (Spotify)
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