What Experts Really Think About Smartphones and Mental Health episode artwork

EPISODE · Jun 4, 2025 · 1H 6M

What Experts Really Think About Smartphones and Mental Health

from Plain English with Derek Thompson · host The Ringer

I'm very concerned about the relationship between smartphone use and America's mental health crisis. But many researchers don't see things my way. They insist that there is little to no empirical data showing that smartphone and social media use drives up anxiety or depression. So what’s the truth about smartphones, social media, and mental health? That’s the question that the NYU researcher Jay Van Bavel set out to answer with his collaborator Valerio Capraro. They took dozens of claims about smartphones, sent them to hundreds of experts in the field, and asked them if these claims were probably true, probably false, or unknown—and why. The result was a massive survey, one of the largest of its kind in the history of psychology. Today, Van Bavel joins the show to tell us what he found, what surprised him, and why his consensus survey made so many researchers so angry. If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at [email protected]. Host: Derek Thompson Guest: Jay Van Bavel Producer: Devon Baroldi Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode metadata supplied by the publisher feed · Published Jun 4, 2025

Embed this episode

NOW PLAYING

What Experts Really Think About Smartphones and Mental Health

0:00 1:06:38

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

No similar episodes found.

No similar podcasts found.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Plain English with Derek Thompson?

This episode is 1 hour and 6 minutes long.

When was this Plain English with Derek Thompson episode published?

This episode was published on June 4, 2025.

Can I download this Plain English with Derek Thompson episode?

Yes. Use the download control on the episode player to save the publisher-provided media file.
URL copied to clipboard!