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EPISODE · Aug 17, 2026 · 51 MIN

What Happens When We Change the Way We See People?

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What if the biggest barrier isn't disability - but perception?In this deeply moving episode of Wit + Grit, PJ and Andy sit down with Taylor Mackenzie, Special Olympics GB swimmer, gold medallist and athlete leader, alongside Laura Baxter MBE, CEO of Special Olympics Great Britain.Taylor shares her remarkable journey - from a young girl who struggled to speak, to becoming a double gold medallist in Berlin and now preparing to attempt a Guinness World Record just months after major spinal surgery.Laura explains why Special Olympics is about far more than medals. It's about confidence, belonging, opportunity and challenging society's assumptions about people with intellectual disabilities.Together they explore leadership, resilience, inclusion and why success should sometimes be measured by friendship, courage and joy rather than trophies.This isn't simply a conversation about sport.It's a conversation about seeing people for who they are - and what becomes possible when we do.Key TakeawaysPeople before labelsSpecial Olympics focuses on the person - not the disability.Success looks differentWinning isn't always measured by medals. Sometimes it's confidence, friendship and simply showing up.Courage changes everythingTaylor's comeback after spinal surgery shows resilience in its purest form.Inclusion starts with conversationThe biggest thing we can do is simply engage with people.Challenge assumptionsAbility should always come before disability.Different thinking is a strengthPeople with intellectual disabilities often bring unique perspectives that organisations desperately need.Self-belief begins with someone believing in youFor Taylor, that started with her parents.Legacy isn't built after an eventIt's created years before through education, opportunity and changing perceptions.Chapters List00:00 Finding a Voice Through Special Olympics01:03 Taylor’s Journey Into Swimming04:21 Why Sport Creates Opportunity06:46 National Games in Birmingham09:38 The Origins of Special Olympics10:44 The Athlete Oath: Be Brave in the Attempt11:50 Community, Confidence and Friendship13:34 Changing Perceptions Beyond Sport19:05 Family Support and Taylor’s Berlin Golds29:05 Recovery, Resilience and a World-Record Goal32:30 What Athletes Teach Us About Success34:56 Building a More Inclusive Future40:08 Athlete Leadership and Advocacy42:46 A Future World Games in Great Britain45:48 Partnerships That Create Change48:18 The Lasting Impact of the National Games50:21 How to Support the National Games

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