EPISODE · Jun 30, 2026 · 27 MIN
What If a PIP Wasn't a Punishment? Rethinking Performance Improvement Plans
from Public Voices by NEOGOV · host NEOGOV
Welcome back to Public Voices by NEOGOV, a podcast built for public sector leaders, HR professionals, and public safety personnel who want real conversations about the work they do every day.In this episode, hosts Doug Shoemaker and Nicole Carlson take on one of the most dreaded tools in the workplace: the performance improvement plan. Most people hear PIP and brace for the worst. But what happens when leaders stop treating it as the last stop before firing someone and start using it as a real development tool?Drawing on nearly 20 years in public sector HR and three decades in law enforcement leadership, Nicole and Doug get honest about why PIPs fail, how to build a culture of feedback before one is ever needed, and what it actually takes to help an employee turn things around.This episode covers the reputation problem behind PIPs, building a feedback culture, navigating difficult conversations, managing emotional reactions, and the dual responsibility leaders and employees share in making a PIP work.HOSTED BY:Nicole Carlson - Former public sector HR Director with nearly 20 years of experience, starting as a dispatcher straight out of high school and rising through the ranks to lead her organization's HR department.Doug Shoemaker - 30-year law enforcement veteran who served as police chief at multiple agencies and spent over a decade leading public information and media relations.New episodes every Tuesday on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts.Sponsored by NEOGOV: Helping government HR and public safety agencies work smarter with AI, automation, and configuration. Learn more at NEOGOV.comThe views and opinions expressed by our hosts and guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of their employer or any government agency. This podcast is produced by NEOGOV and is not affiliated with or endorsed by any governmental entity. Any references to products or services reflect personal experiences and are not official agency endorsements.
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