What If, Even If: Cassie Valler on Courage, Creativity, and Doing the Hard Things

 In this powerful and heartfelt episode, Susan sits down with singer-songwriter, coach, and author Cassie Fowler for a conversation that will stir your heart and strengthen your courage. Cassie shares her personal story of navigating depression, anxiety, and burnout, and how God met her in the hard places to bring healing and purpose.Cassie performs her original song Even If — a beautiful reminder of God’s faithfulness in uncertain seasons. She also unpacks the lessons she’s learned from writing her book Courageous Identity, coaching others, and facing personal fears of rejection.From battling the “I should disappear” lie to stepping boldly into God’s calling, Cassie offers rich encouragement for anyone standing at the edge of something hard — whether it’s writing a book, pursuing a dream, or simply taking the next step. You’ll hear about emotional regulation, living outside your comfort zone, people-pleasing, spiritual growth, and the invitation to encounter God’s real and beautiful presence in every season.Some of the beautiful takeaways from Cassie’s story:"Showing up as my authentic self gives others permission to show up for themselves."The difference between I want to → I will → I must when pursuing big goalsChoosing excitement over fearHow to sit with anxiety rather than react to itThe difference between compassion and codependencyLetting go of needing permission and fully stepping into God-given freedom🎶 Special Feature: Cassie debuts her original song Even If — don’t miss this beautiful moment of worship and vulnerability.Connect with Cassie: Cassie’s book Courageous Identity is in the works — stay tuned for its release! 🎤 You can find her singing karaoke or leading worship — she’s a creative through and through!Resources Mentioned:Life Mentoring School by Dr. Edie WadsworthBrilliant Perspectives podcast by Graham CookeDallas Willard on apprenticeship with JesusA Word for the Listener: Wherever you are in your hard thing, may Cassie’s journey remind you: you don’t need permission to become who God made you to be. Freedom is already yours. 🌿Let's Connect⁠Free Thought Calenda⁠⁠r⁠⁠Free Clean Heart Club Facebook Group⁠⁠Clean Heart Club Course⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠1:1 Christian Life Coaching⁠⁠