EPISODE · Sep 4, 2026 · 1H 6M
What If Kyler Murray is Really Good?
from Vikings 1st & SKOL: A Minnesota Vikings podcast · host Bleav
What If Kyler Murray Is Really Good for the Vikings? Data, Fit, and Contract Fallout — On The Real Forno Show, Tyler Forness and producer Dave Stefano shift the conversation off J.J. McCarthy and onto the actual Week 1 starter: Kyler Murray, 10 days from the Green Bay Packers at U.S. Bank Stadium. The question is the same one they asked about Sam Darnold in 2024 — what if he’s really good in Kevin O’Connell’s offense? They break down Murray as an outlier in this system: a pocket-first passer who is dangerous the second he leaves it, not a designed-run quarterback. O’Connell’s job is passing-lane help, movement throws, boots, and scramble-drill rules that let Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison work. TruMedia splits (career since 2019 and full-season 2024) show average overall EPA, low in-pocket explosives, solid sack/success rates, and a clear jump in efficiency and explosiveness outside the pocket — with more turnover-worthy throws on the move. Second half: team ceiling (non-zero Super Bowl path), sloppy early weeks, Week 1 optimism with Parsons and Jacobs out, Jauan Jennings/Hockenson in the red zone, and the 2027 contract problem if Murray hits. They push back on a $60 million AAV and stack him against other reclamation deals (Darnold, Daniel Jones). Champagne problem if you have to pay him. Cheap swing if you don’t. Vikings 1st & SKOL production. Partnered with the Bleav Network. Timestamps: - 0:00 Kyler takes over - 0:38 Show setup and goals - 2:14 Confidence check - 4:10 Why Kyler is unique - 9:03 Middle-of-the-field passing - 11:19 KOC adjustments - 16:14 Scramble-drill weapons - 19:35 TruMedia data dive - 25:31 Outside-the-pocket metrics - 27:07 Scrambling profile - 29:23 2024 snapshot - 31:12 Explosives vs. turnovers - 32:40 Pocket-play fit - 33:56 What counts as a scramble - 35:20 Outside-the-pocket boom - 40:14 Designed-run value - 42:05 Career splits wrap - 44:03 Play-concept breakdown - 46:31 Team ceiling - 48:31 Red-zone weapons - 50:03 Contract money talk - 58:53 Rookie-QB contract debate - 1:01:08 Season hopes and wrap - 1:04:58 How many QBs won a Super Bowl on a rookie deal? - 1:05:20 Close / Two Old Bloggers tease _______________________ Subscribe to us here! - https://www.youtube.com/@vikings1stskol92 Our Twitter can be found at @Vikings1stSKOL Our Discord at https://discord.com/invite/493z6mQXcN Tyler Forness can be read at A to Z Sports - https://atozsports.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings-news/ Submit questions: forms.gle/7LJkCAern9kdUkuD8 On Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/vikings1standskol Watch the live show here: https://youtu.be/KJZXLzr7-pg Fan With Us!!! Tyler Forness @TheRealForno of Vikings 1st & SKOL @Vikings1stSKOL and A to Z Sports @AtoZSportsNFL, with Dave Stefano @Luft_Krigare producing this Vikings 1st & SKOL and @BleavNetwork production, the @RealFornoShow. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Ten days from Green Bay, Tyler Forness and Dave Stefano leave J.J. McCarthy off the table and study Kyler Murray: pocket vs. off-platform data, scramble rules, and what a really good season costs Minnesota.
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