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EPISODE · May 27, 2025 · 10 MIN

What If Math and Writing Struggles Are Actually the Same Problem?

from Tier 1 Interventions · host Jonily Zupancic and Cheri Dotterer

What happens when an occupational therapist and a math coach collide? In this segment, Cheri Dotterer introduces her long-time collaborator, Jonily Zupancic, a math coach and former teacher who brings deep insight into why math instruction often misses the mark for students with learning differences. Together, they explore the interconnectedness of reading, writing, and math—and how Tier 1 strategies can realign instruction to support all learners.Listeners will walk away with powerful insight into how educational silos (ELA vs. math) can be bridged using cognitive science, collaborative co-teaching, and practical classroom strategies. If you’ve ever wondered how dysgraphia and dyscalculia really show up in your students—and what to do about it—this segment is your wake-up call.👉 Subscribe and share this with a fellow educator who needs a boost of inspiration!🔗 Find the complete Quick Dots Purple X training module: https://disabilitylabs.com***************************************************************************BOOKSMaking Mathineers on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Making-Mathineers-Transformational-Experiences-Conceptual-ebook/dp/B08NFCZ64KHandwriting Brain Body DISconnect Digital Version: https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/hwbbd On Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Handwriting-Brain-Body-DisConnect-techniques-ebook/dp/B07N1XB1G7Both books are also available in paperback and hardcover versions. All versions are available wherever books are sold.Math DYSconnected - To be released in 2024.***************************************************************************TIME CODES00:00 – Recap from Cheri: From dysgraphia to math challenges00:10 – Personal reflection: Realizing the reading-writing disconnect00:35 – The discovery: Even non-readers benefit from writing strategies00:45 – Enter Jonily Zupancic: Math teacher turned coach01:10 – How Cheri and Jonily’s worlds “collided” 4–5 years ago01:30 – The “aha” moment: Linking writing challenges to math performance01:55 – Why standard math teaching strategies fall short02:20 – The power of co-designing interventions across subjects02:45 – Introducing a new way of thinking about math as a language***************************************************************************SUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to the Audio version of the podcast here on YouTube or your favorite podcast app.APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tier-1-interventions/id1729403599?uo=4SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/72Wmq8ddduGz4eUMK7LVIyAMAZON MUSIC/AUDIBLE: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/89f67d1a-98b5-4592-a53c-8f4acb3d8029This podcast is created from excerpts from the Tier 1 Interventions Workshop. To hear the full math intervention, subscribe to watch the event live monthly on the 3rd Saturday during the school year.***************************************************************************MISSIONMinds on Math, LLC: To provide engaging, high-quality professional development and instructional coaching for teachers to improve student achievement and understanding of mathematics.Dotterer Educational Consulting, a Therapy Services, LLC company: To provide professional development to improve writing skills through efficient lesson planning for regular education classrooms.***************************************************************************FREE RESOURCEShttps://www.eventbrite.com/o/jonily-zupancic-8523599443https://www.eventbrite.com/o/cheri-dotterer-classroom-coach-18603393525***************************************************************************Other ways to connect with Jonily and CheriFB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/tier1interventionsIG: https://www.instagram.com/cheridotterer/     https://www.instagram.com/jonilyzupancic/Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheridotterer/                  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonily-zupancic-29aa7a54/X: https://twitter.com/CheriDotterer    https://twitter.com/mindsonmathTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cheridotterer             https://www.tiktok.com/@mindsonmath***************************************************************************QUESTIONWhat is your biggest struggle in your classroom right now? Include grade level and your role. Share in the comments or email us at:[email protected]@mindsonmath.com***************************************************************************HASHTAGS#jonily  #cheri #Tier1Interventions #GeoboardMath #MathStrategies #OTinSchools #MathIntervention #Dyscalculia #NeuroscienceInEducation

What happens when an occupational therapist and a math coach collide? In this segment, Cheri Dotterer introduces her long-time collaborator, Jonily Zupancic, a math coach and former teacher who brings deep insight into why math instruction often misses the mark for students with learning differences. Together, they explore the interconnectedness of reading, writing, and math—and how Tier 1 strategies can realign instruction to support all learners.Listeners will walk away with powerful insight into how educational silos (ELA vs. math) can be bridged using cognitive science, collaborative co-teaching, and practical classroom strategies. If you’ve ever wondered how dysgraphia and dyscalculia really show up in your students—and what to do about it—this segment is your wake-up call.👉 Subscribe and share this with a fellow educator who needs a boost of inspiration!🔗 Find the complete Quick Dots Purple X training module: https://disabilitylabs.com***************************************************************************BOOKSMaking Mathineers on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Making-Mathineers-Transformational-Experiences-Conceptual-ebook/dp/B08NFCZ64KHandwriting Brain Body DISconnect Digital Version: https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/hwbbd On Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Handwriting-Brain-Body-DisConnect-techniques-ebook/dp/B07N1XB1G7Both books are also available in paperback and hardcover versions. All versions are available wherever books are sold.Math DYSconnected - To be released in 2024.***************************************************************************TIME CODES00:00 – Recap from Cheri: From dysgraphia to math challenges00:10 – Personal reflection: Realizing the reading-writing disconnect00:35 – The discovery: Even non-readers benefit from writing strategies00:45 – Enter Jonily Zupancic: Math teacher turned coach01:10 – How Cheri and Jonily’s worlds “collided” 4–5 years ago01:30 – The “aha” moment: Linking writing challenges to math performance01:55 – Why standard math teaching strategies fall short02:20 – The power of co-designing interventions across subjects02:45 – Introducing a new way of thinking about math as a language***************************************************************************SUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to the Audio version of the podcast here on YouTube or your favorite podcast app.APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tier-1-interventions/id1729403599?uo=4SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/72Wmq8ddduGz4eUMK7LVIyAMAZON MUSIC/AUDIBLE: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/89f67d1a-98b5-4592-a53c-8f4acb3d8029This podcast is created from excerpts from the Tier 1 Interventions Workshop. To hear the full math intervention, subscribe to watch the event live monthly on the 3rd Saturday during the school year.***************************************************************************MISSIONMinds on Math, LLC: To provide engaging, high-quality professional development and instructional coaching for teachers to improve student achievement and understanding of mathematics.Dotterer Educational Consulting, a Therapy Services, LLC company: To provide professional development to improve writing skills through efficient lesson planning for regular education classrooms.***************************************************************************FREE RESOURCEShttps://www.eventbrite.com/o/jonily-zupancic-8523599443https://www.eventbrite.com/o/cheri-dotterer-classroom-coach-18603393525***************************************************************************Other ways to connect with Jonily and CheriFB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/tier1interventionsIG: https://www.instagram.com/cheridotterer/     https://www.instagram.com/jonilyzupancic/Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheridotterer/                  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonily-zupancic-29aa7a54/X: https://twitter.com/CheriDotterer    https://twitter.com/mindsonmathTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cheridotterer             https://www.tiktok.com/@mindsonmath***************************************************************************QUESTIONWhat is your biggest struggle in your classroom right now? Include grade level and your role. Share in the comments or email us at:[email protected]@mindsonmath.com***************************************************************************HASHTAGS#jonily  #cheri #Tier1Interventions #GeoboardMath #MathStrategies #OTinSchools #MathIntervention #Dyscalculia #NeuroscienceInEducation

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