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“What If” Players + Fantasy Fears - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/3

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Kickoff week is here! On today’s fantasy football podcast, undrafted gems and waiver wire pickups that could have a major impact right away! Plus, the latest NFL News, and Andy, Mike, and Jason reveal their biggest fears for the 2024 fantasy football season. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for September 3rd, 2024.Get the 2024 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT and Draft Analyzer at UltimateDraftKit.comCompete in the largest fantasy football league! Megalabowl.com (00:00) - Intro  (09:20) - Waiver Wire - Undrafted Gems (17:20) - NFL News (23:30) - Mailbag (24:00) - Diversifying teams over multiple leagues (26:20) - Christian Kirk outlook (38:35) - Biggest fantasy fears (30:50) - Keeper costs (34:20) - Chuba Hubbard or Trey Benson as James Conner manager (36:00) - Where will DJ Moore finish? (45:45) - Shane Falco or Johnny Utah? (46:00) - Chase Brown or Brian Robinson Jr.  (46:55) - Will Dissly and Hayden Hurst Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors:Waiver Wire presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. Visit youtube.com/fantasyfootballersNews & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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To the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in! Two more sleeps. Okay, Grandpa.

One. I like it. Yeah, we got football this week. Mike's not going to talk on the show today.

That way his football time can be maximized. Yeah. Volume, tone. This is the first time ever.

This is just realizing in my brain right now because we were talking about this. Yes, yes. It will be two, it's football times. This week for the first time ever.

Wow! Because... Because we're walking there. Wow!

Because there's a game on Friday. Yeah. The NFL is trying something out. I guess?

Well, they always do. You know, sometimes the first week, Monday, they do a double-hire. I am laughing at the idea that they're trying something because, yes, they're having a Friday game in Brazil. I wonder how it's going to work.

That's all I'm saying is, oh, I bet you they know A plus B equals money. Yeah. Well, I think they do weird stuff like start two games on Monday at the same time. That's true.

We have criticized that. They try things out. And generally speaking, like Monday night does not get its own, it's football time. But I don't know man for a Friday stand alone game.

You just said there's going to be two this week. Yeah, it's happening. I mean, it's happening. Tuesday, September 3rd, two days away from meaningful, actual, real NFL football that's going to count for your fantasy roster.

And we're here to help you through the entire season. It's amazing. So, we are week one, rankings are live. And I was working on them more this morning.

And just before the show, I'm literally looking at the order of these players and who I would start and all of this and it dawns on me. I go, the answers are days away. Like we get to know who is the better player this week. It's not all, you know, you spend these months of just all this hypothetical, all this analysis, all this talky talk, talk nonsense.

And then I would say the points are coming. They're here days away. I'm so I'm. I'm.

Yeah. I mean, this is not a part of our normal plans today, but is there a singular player? And I'll give you a second to think about this, that you are the most excited to see play football in week one. I know mine.

Well, put Malik neighbors out there. I got the rookies are always in that category and then compounded with just the my guy and the anticipation for him on the field. Is he the next? Jamar Chase, Mike.

It's Caleb. Yeah. And I have team captain, I currently have, you know, very little personally, fantasy invested in the Chicago Bears, other than, you know, making my projections and everything. It's just, it hasn't worked out for me.

Although I did, we were in a, our League of Shadows. I did just double up my QB. I took Caleb with my second to last pick. Nice.

Just in case, just in case. And watching him, like the preseason is, was very impressive for Caleb making, like, really difficult throws. What's going to happen though when it's an actual NFL defense and not a preseason defense? Will that, will he still be able to do it?

I would say the first player that just naturally came to mind that I'm very like, I think everyone in the world needs it to work. Let's say it together. Call be Parkinson's. DJ's around.

You can't, dude, you can't fail. I mean, you can, but please do not because there's so much writing on you leveling up and being that dude, the whole team, you know, front to back, like the Texans are supposed to be an awesome offense. Nico goes high. Diggs is, you know, got to build that foundation on rock.

Jason, right. I mean, it's just got to work. Please see the crowd. You have to do what he does.

Be great. Be the player that everyone thinks are going to be because we were here. We were here with Baker going into year two when he was, oh, don't say that. He was the dude.

He was, you know, what do you get? Oh, don't back him. Um, added to the roster. Yeah, he was on that.

He was going to be the next greatest quarterback. Was that for the kitchens that year? Yeah, yeah, that was, yeah, I believe so. Too many kitchens in the kitchen.

Yes. We have a lot going on. We got news to talk about. We got a waiver wire segment where we're talking about the undrafted gyms that you can pick up.

I just took one of them. Actually, I don't know if it's in this list, but I took one of these guys with the last pick of our draft, our league of shout out. So we'll talk about some names, some players that you may want to swap off of the back of your bench and maybe put somebody else in there that has some upside and then we'll jump into the mail bed. We got voicemails.

You guys have sent him. We got tons of questions coming in to the show as we get ready for the season to kick off. I can feel the energy in the room. It is palpable.

We are ready for football. We are ready to see these teams and see our fantasy team succeed. But I just wanted to say in general, thank you for this past offseason. It's been awesome.

Thank you for those that came out to the live show. For those of you that have joined the foot clan over the last month that have become a part of our community, this show is going into the 10th season of doing this. And I know I can speak for all three of us to say that we have the same excitement, energy, and joy. Okay.

Also, I can't stop buying more and more things to help support the draft. The draft. Yeah, good for you. I am the champion.

Good for you. And you should be deluginally rude to your league mates when you're the champ. So I have got. The champ is so good.

It's the highest high, my friends. It is. And it's also it's expensive. Oh, and you know what?

That's it. It's like fantasy champs.com. You know what keeps happening? I think of one thing I want to bring to the draft and then I put it in my Amazon cart and then I realized I need that $25 limit to get the shipping.

So I'm like, oh, what other thing can I buy? And then I just keep buying them. But yeah, I got some stuff and stuff. Very exciting.

It's going to be very fun. But no, the point there was not that on the champ. Although that's always the point. We're very thankful to have you along for the ride.

We do have two Megalable draft times remaining the 5 p.m. tonight draft for the Megalable, which is the largest fantasy football league. It's the one with all the football members. It's going to be super fun this year.

And I actually was talking to a ton of football people this weekend. And one of the comments was like, I always love playing in the Megalable. When you guys pulled trading out, I quit. And I said, trading's back, baby.

Yeah, trading is back. The playoffs are a little bit easier to make. I explained it. We really mirrored the Megalable to our League of Record format.

So the scoring, everything is how we like to play. So and the people that are in these leagues are awesome. They are our people. They are you.

You listening are who's playing. I have not done my draft yet. So if you want to try to guess which draft slot I'm in, we've got one left tomorrow and you can still. Nine a.m.

Nine a.m. September fourth. So there is time, Megalable dot com. Sorry Jay.

What are the prizes? We got the prizes. The prizes are the prizes are the winner of the Megalable plays automatically. They are in our listener league in 2025 and you become an ultimate foot plan member for life forever.

So that is awesome. Jason also mentioned at the top the week one rankings are up on the site. So start sit to all the in season things are happening right now at the fantasy footballers dot com and tons of free resources for you. Amazing articles from a really talented writing staff coming out every single day.

And it's go time. I mean just if you're like me, just soak it up all day every day no matter where you're at and your family will totally support that. You can follow the show over on X at the FF Ballers. Let's jump in.

I think this is the button here it is. Welcome to the waiver wire presented by NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV. I got to graduate my button pushing to in season mode. I was still off season.

It takes some time. All right. We're looking at week one stashes some players some undrafted gyms the what if players right like if something goes exceptionally well in week one or the hierarchy maybe at the wide receiver room or running back room changes and where you know things that we're not expecting. What are some of these names in your mind for week one?

Yeah, it's really common for me to finish a draft and then look at the waiver wire afterwards go. I would rather have this guy. You got a lot more time. That's normal.

Yeah. One of the first names I'll bring up is the one you drafted last in our league. We just did Andy at some on JP Ryan. He's going to be very interesting.

He is he is extremely valuable. This is a role. I mean, you know, I'm all about as a pecheco and it seems part of the news this week is that Clyde Edwards, a layer was put on the what is it the NFI. Yeah, the NFI and so he's going to miss the first month of football.

It's not more. Right. So now we know why they went and got P. Ryan.

So I'm not as scared about P. Ryan for pecheco. However, this is this is an important offense. We saw Jerrick McKinnon have value.

This is a player who caught 50 balls last year for a bad offense and now he goes over to the Chiefs. So he's just sitting there on the waiver wire as the backup to pecheco who will be involved. He's going to be active this Thursday already. So P.

Ryan is I think a must, you know, hot swap type of player. Yeah, I'm just genuinely curious how the team uses them and how fast it gets emigrated into the offense. So everything you said is right. You had the one thing about P.

Ryan that's interesting to me is that you have respected coaches that seems to want him and trust him. Where Zach Taylor to our own demise continued to trust him in Cincinnati. He was picked up by Peyton last year. Obviously they went out and they found McLaughlin that was an unexpected player in the running back room and then they drafted estimate.

So there was kind of no room for him. But then any re-picks him up. You know, where if there's anybody that can utilize less talented players for greater fantasy output, we often talk about Damien Williams and whether he was a legitimately good running back or not. He was almost a Super Bowl MVP on that team.

So a fun player to watch for sure. I mean, last year, this is the show where you could have brought up names like Pooka and Kairn Williams, Sam LaPora, who was only 54% Rosser after draft last year. So I think that's a good one. I'd also bring up another running back in March on Lawrence.

Yes, that was the next most important name to me. Running back for the Green Bay Packers, rookie running back. We talk about it every year somehow, some way, at least two rookie running backs seem to break into the top 24 and we're sitting here going, you know, a couple weeks ago, well, how's that even going to happen this year? Then all of a sudden, March on Lloyd's not put on the IR, AJ Dillon is and he's also back at practice, which the timeline for his injury, you know, when he was going on IR to seem like he was not going to be ready for the season.

I'm not positive he will be. He might not be. Even if he is nonactive week one, you should still pick up March on Lloyd. He's an explosive running back in a committee with no AJ Dillon in front of him for a good offense.

So he must be Ross. And Jacob's missed a little bit of time here and there and it's the what if, right? Like, is that the kind of offense where suddenly March on Lloyd, if he was by himself too, he would be an interesting player to add to the roster. The only problem there is I don't think Lloyd plays in the first couple weeks.

So if you that would be a longer stash, you might want some quicker return. Like do you have some names? I mean, the quarterback's to pay attention to like Will Levis from Tennessee. He could turn into a late round guy who's really giving you points and I get a, Kayla Williams was probably drafted in your league, but now that casual leaves are going, I'm seeing him drop lower and lower where he was, ADP, a top.

It was like QB 11, which that's right on the fringe of May or may not get drafted, but I think that he is a really good pick up and see with your other quarterback one. And then at the running back position, I'll say again, take some Hill for the. Did you say at the running back position? I mean, it's good.

Yeah, it's whatever, man. He's everything. Jason Hill is tight and eligible for a lot of platforms and we don't know what this is. We're going to tell you.

I'm telling you, Mike, I'm with you on this. I hate. I have this feeling right now that we're going to come out and see so much Jason Hill at running back in this game. I think so.

They play against Carolina in the opening week. They're favored. They're at home. If you're talking about their favorite team to play against.

So yeah, I mean, you talk about like I was looking at the rankings. I was like, oh, that's great for album Camara. It's like they're going to be up. Maybe it's more of a grind game.

Maybe it's more of like a Jamal Williams. And I'm like, oh, it's tasty. It tastes. It tastes like a week one.

And the other tight end. I just in our family league completely agree. I had grabbed. It was really late and it was everyone had their starting tight end.

So I took Hockinson as I'm going to stash him and then I was going to find someone else to play. Unfortunately, someone took Taysom Hill before I was able to go and I had to scramble. What am I going to do? Greg D.

Greg Dulcich of the Denver Broncos is an electric athlete. We love seeing that. Who was who's established for the Denver Broncos passing attack right now? Courtland's son.

That's it. I mean, like the running backs are going to get their targets, but no one else on this team is going to go out and that you would project. Oh, this is a 20% target type of player. He had a great target share as a rookie.

Just has been hurt. And so he is a very late tight end that I think you should. So even like if you have that one spot, I think stashing Greg Dulcich isn't the worst idea. Other players that I think might surprise you in week one.

I think Michael Wilson and Greg Dortge in Arizona opposite of Marvin Harrison might be a surprise in week one against Buffalo. Miami Browns going to get an opportunity in Washington. Jalen Tolbert, what's his role going to be as a wide receiver in Dallas in week one as he's had a good camp. And so those are some other names worth bringing up and yeah, I'm so excited.

Yeah, I would throw out a couple of rookies as well at my Mitchell and Malik Washington. Those are guys that I think they're kind of third on their depth chart, but they've got an opportunity. It's the surprising, you know, when I look back at like the breakouts every week one, a lot of times it's the rookies. I mean, last year's Puka, right?

It was like, you just didn't know. You didn't know he was going to be involved that involved. Malik Washington is an excellent stash right now. I liked the player and yeah, reports are now positive for Jalen, Waddle and Tyree Kiel, but they're both coming up for injury.

Yeah. It's like, oh, they're both finally back to practice. Yeah, if Waddle goes out there and it really was a really bad calf injury that we didn't know about any tweaks in in week one, Malik Washington is going to be very heavily sought after on that Tuesday waiver wire. All right.

Thanks again to NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV. Watch every game every Sunday when you bundle NFL Sunday ticket in YouTube TV, sign up today at youtube.com slash fantasy footballers, a reminder local and national games on YouTube TV in a fall Sunday ticket for out of market games, excludes digital only games, device and content restrictions apply news and notes from around the league presented by USA insurance. All right, Mike, I'm going to give you the power of telling you whether I hit this button or not. But Jamar Chase, he was present at practice on Monday.

He did not participate in Zach Taylor, who has learned a thing or two. He came out and said on whether Chase will play on Sunday against New England. Are you asking about? Will just firing the full panicle arm?

Yes. Are you? Do you want? I'm not at.

I am at the point of let me get the quote in there. You said, well, just take it day by day. Go ahead. If you haven't drafted yet, I can totally understand letting it like the other big wide receivers that we've been talking about who like AJ Brown, he's the name.

Would you take AJ Brown or Jamar now? If it was today, I would. Yeah. If I'm drafting now, I think both are great players.

Like I love both players. So taking one that I'm not sure plays this week over what you got about over there. I am I'm chuckling to myself because I think I know you're not I give you're giving advice. Oh, you're a thing.

Jason is in a unique position on Thursday in our League of Record Draft. You think I'm being selfish over there. For it would be beneficial to him and Jamar Chase fell a couple of spots. I don't think he's going to.

Yeah. I'm too far from that point being. I honestly, my true belief is Jamar Chase week one suits up and plays football. I guess that's the question.

I think he does. I think he doesn't. I think he does. He is two years left.

There's also still look where we're at the 11th hour. There is a chance that contract comes through. We were getting some rumors that they were close. I don't I don't know what in the world is going on there.

Like CD Lam. There it is. There it is. It's an add you go.

Hey, look, Mr. Jamar Chase, here's what CD got. Would you like that as well? Because we're not going to give you Jefferson number, but we'll give you CDs number.

Let's get that done. Sometimes you don't see that simple. And then this morning we got news that Trent Williams will be back for the 49ers. That is Jake Dianton.

That is literally he's got a chance at news. He was it was not looking good for him to start the season playing for the 49ers. And that dude will hold out. Yeah, he's already proven a year, right?

I'm saying if you don't give Trent Williams his money, he is not showing up to work. He has set a precedent. But the 49ers got their deals done to the point that Mike was making. Got him done.

You and Trent Williams back on the roster. That's great news for McCaffrey. You return to practice today. So McCaffrey is on on schedule.

And again, he plays on Monday night football against the jet. Oh my gosh. Monday night football 49ers jets. Yeah.

I want that game. I want that game. Yes. Oh my gosh.

All right, Mark Andrews, not on the injury report. So that's great. Hollywood Brown ruled out, but they do they are talking like Hollywood's back in week two. We'll see.

I would be surprised. I don't know where the optimism is coming from. I mean, obviously they know, but this injury in the timeline to me, it made sense. Obviously they didn't put him on IR.

You expect that he's not going to miss four weeks, but I don't know, man. I am less optimistic just based on the actual injury in the normal timeline for that that he plays in week two. I think yeah, I thought that it came from Andy Reid, but I can't find the quote right now. So we'll see.

Not that you would like do you put Hollywood Brown on these? Like if you're not drafting him, I feel like he should be on a roster. I really do. You think he should be on a roster?

Yeah. I mean, people are sitting here throwing if you've got a lot of these along just sky more and Justin wants. And these guys are landing on rosters like Hollywood is much better than if you have an IR spot. That's fine.

If you don't have an IR spot, I'm not personally wasting a bench spot on a guy that can't like let's say he was active next week in week two. So we know he's not going to play this week. Would you start him week two first game back from this? No, no, you're not drafting him as a player that you're going to start.

Like I, I agree. I would put him on the back of the bench. I think that is a wise decision. Clyde Edwards, a layer we mentioned that he's placed on the NFI list.

He's going to miss at least four weeks. Ricky Pearson. Yeah, man. Oh my good.

I guess we went through all this all week and long, but Ricky Pearson was shot in an altercation in San Francisco in the chest. Yeah, through the right side of his chest, he is he has already been released from the hospital, which is outstanding news that he was that fortunate from the incident. He's been placed on the NFI list, so he will not be playing at a minimum four weeks. I think it'll be longer.

Yeah, the bullet went through clean, no organs, which is great. It came out the back, which is just a wild, just wonderful. I mean, if you're getting shot. Yeah, that's the best case scenario.

That's the best case scenario. I mean, he was an inch away from death. That's just wow, just insane. Yeah, that news was absolutely wild.

Jalen Warren, practice expected to play in week one. Dallas Goddard also expected to get back in practice. He actually resumed on Sunday. So Goddard should be back out there.

That was today's news and notes presented as always by USAA Insurance. You can learn more at usa.com slash insurance. We will take a quick break and come back with your questions. I bet we will.

No, still off season mode. All right, let's jump in. Mailbag. All right, if you have a question for the show, you can go to the website to fancy footballers.com.

Click the submit a question button. You can find it in the menu. You can also dial our voicemail hotline 302464 TFFB. Lots of questions coming in, Jason.

All we've got to do is get them all perfectly right. That's all we do. All right, let's jump in. We'll go to a voicemail.

Hey, Paul, is it different Pittsburgh? My question is, when you're drafting in multiple leagues, do you try to diversify your teams or do you want to keep them as similar as possible? Thanks. It's a mix for me personally.

The question is, when you're in multiple drafts, are you trying to target the same players or do you want to diversify just in case the players that you're targeting? They are the bus picks of the year, so you want to balance things out or do you want to put all the eggs in one basket? I'm not a kid. Well, I mean, when you say you're drafting a lot of leagues, obviously it's very different if you are filling out 150 entries into the best momentia that you want to diversify.

That's just smart strategy to make sure your portfolio isn't just completely going to get wrecked. But otherwise, this isn't really a strategy thing. This is a personality. It's what you enjoy.

And for me, basically, I've got two league types. The three leagues that really, really matter. I'm just going to try to draft the best players, which I end up getting the same guys because it's who I believe in this year. I'm going to win everywhere, lose everywhere.

And then there's our family league where we're playing with our boys. I really don't care about being awesome in there. So I grab the players that are just fun that I want to have that I don't have anywhere else. Yeah, strategically speaking, if you have conviction about players, that's what the offseason is all about.

Like, I don't approach it with cold feet about, oh man, this is going to be the third league I have, Cooper Cup in or Calvin Ridley in. I'm always thankful to get those guys at the spots that I'm getting them at. And your roster is never mirrored top to bottom. Like, if you've got the same players, maybe you have two or three or four of the same players.

So I would not go away from them for, you know, if you were drafting number two in five drafts, maybe I'd split Tyree Concede up a little bit. Sure. Stuff like that. But later on in the draft, I'm not doing that.

On Sunday, when you don't know if cheering for a player, like if a player scores, is this good or is this bad? I don't know because I have everyone and I'm playing against everyone. You can avoid that. YouTube question from Joseph writes in, do you think Christian Kurtz involvement in Jacksonville is concerning coming over from a or coming from a scared Christian Kirk manager?

He has not been on in two wide sets. That's the same thing that happened last year. I'm worried. I'm not worried about Christian Kirk.

He does. He has kind of turned into one of those invisible players. I believe he was dealing with an injury over the over these last couple of months as well. What it comes down to for Christian Kirk is I believe in the talent of Christian Kirk.

I think that the Jaguars do as well. So he's you can't keep him off the field. Like you gave Davis the money. I understand Christian Kirk is is actually good and will help your team win football games.

Yeah. I mean, he was last year played with Calvin Ridley and in the healthy game, he got injured in week 13 up to that point. He was the wide receiver 23. His 17 game pace was 130 targets for 1100 yards.

I mean, he's going to be super involved in this. Yeah. I think the thing with Kirk is like, like what you said, this is a to me, a low in two type of player with some upside on a week to week basis, but he's not a dominated, right? Like he has career high in receptions in a year is 84.

That's nice. But this is, we know what Christian Kirk is six years into the league. And sometimes he can feel blazade to select because because you can be taking, you know, he's going to go in every draft ahead of where Brian Thomas is going. I enjoy drafting Brian Thomas way more.

Well, you're getting 10 fantasy points in a half PPR, like just book it. You got Christian Kirk in there. He's 10 fantasy points. And that's that's good in some scenarios.

But yeah, his ceiling is definitely a little bit more. But this team does not have enough options to eliminate Christian Clark. Christian Kirk outside of injury. So in growing Kirk, you're going to soak up so many targets.

I think the rise of Brian Thomas, like the noise of the rise of the noise of his second half of training camp is helping to squeeze out your excitement for Christian Kirk. What is your biggest fantasy football fear heading into the 2024 season? That's the next question that we have. Um, what is the biggest fear?

Jason might have accidentally mentioned his. Yeah. I mean, it's strouled failing. Yeah, it goes to tank to L as well.

You know, I'm very bullish on his unstoppability. And so if he gets injured or is, you get John Dotson for some reason, uh, that will be devastating. I think that I think that it's the, the CMC one on one working out the way it's supposed to, um, he's been there and it's hard to repeat. We take it for granted with CMC.

Everything should be fine. I think the 49ers in general are questioning me of like, is everything just come together perfectly that the signings this week are going to help tremendously, but at the same time, like the vibes have been bad there for a while. And now everything's coming together right at the right time. It does feel like it's working out.

And then Philly, like a lot is dependent on Jalen hurts. Just like CJ Stroud. It hurts. Cannot step up his game in this office, which is a, he's going to have to make more decisions in this office.

There's a lot more option routes. There's a lot more movement. This is not as straightforward as what he was used to. And he's going to have to handle protections.

He's going to have to handle things. Um, and you're depending on him for AJ Brown and Devante Smith. So that's an interesting one too. Mine is selfish.

And, but it is also related to the group of the elite wide receivers who didn't practice, who have not done training camp. Are they still elite wide receivers to start the year? How are their hammies? Brandon, I you, Stevie, Lam, Jamar, Chase, and I'll just toss Justin Jefferson in.

They're not that he's practicing, but he's an elite wide receiver who we have some concerns about. That's four guys who are very early picks that three of them have not really practiced. They for the most part have skipped training camp. All right.

Let's turn to another voicemail question. Hey, molars, for keeper league, do you prefer keeping players at their previous year draft value or making everyone use their first and second record on picks at their keeper picks? Thanks. Keep her question.

Do you get to keep a player for last round's draft cost or no matter what it's your first or second round pick? We have, we have hotly debated this a thousand times over the years, maybe not hotly, but just different opinions of what we think. I think there's only one hot part because both of these formats are great. I don't, I don't really have a preference between either.

Our league of record. I bet you're free against last round. So what I am very against is waiver wire pick ups being used as a last round pick. Like that is a part.

So if you're in the format where you keep a guy at the value of last year's cost, I can't stand when you get to get a waiver wire pickup that wasn't drafted, you know, what's last year's cost for a waiver. You shouldn't be able to keep, you didn't draft them. They weren't drafted. They're not a capable asset.

I hate that. Or, or you made the disappointment. So you're the guy that had the foresight to go get Kyren or Puka or I guess I should say Puka. You're right.

I can't draft it. Puka. Last year. But you don't get to keep them because you're in a keeper league and you're the one that that you pick them up all the way around.

You don't get to keep them. You can keep them. That's part of being a great man. Not for a last round draft pick.

I'm fine for waiver wire. Mine 80 P because you did something great. How about that? That's fine.

All right. Yeah. Let's put that in. That's the hotly debated part either.

80 P value for the waiver or if you want to give one to two round bonus because you picked them up and kept them. But is that what you just said, Falcon? Do you play in a league with two rounds? No, but that would, that would make sense.

The, I don't personally though, the first or second round. I don't love that because there's going to be teams out there that like they just, they don't have a player that's worth being kept for a first or a second round pick. And now you're, you're already behind the eight ball against these strong teams. So it's, I have my concerns there.

And it's, I like at where you draft them because that's in a keeper league, you're rewarding players for the future for drafting by the way. Our league of record is a keeper league. Yeah. There is not a cost.

No, we do. In our league, we give you three players. One you lock in as yours, guarantee. And then you pick three more from your roster that don't match that franchise players position and we do a lottery and two thirds of them come back to your team and one goes into the draft and we don't have a draft cost associated with it.

Um, you're still out of restrictions. Yeah. I guess part of the fundamental reason why there's not a draft cost is because we try to encourage players to trade their picks all over the place. So if you are, you know, you could work that into the mix, right?

Like you can still trade your picks. And then if you don't have your second and you know, your keeper, you dropped in the second, you don't get that chance to keep them. But that's, we just do three and no cost. Yep.

All right. Kyle and Indianapolis, we'll get to your question in just a second. We'll take a quick break. Come back with more mail back.

All right. Kyle's question. I have James Connor in a read draft league, but not Trey Benson. Should I trade to a Hubbard for Benson to get the Arizona backup or keep Hubbard since he looks like a great depth piece and a late round pick at the moment.

I would be very on the Hubbard side. Yeah, I think I'm keeping Chuba, the player that drafted Trey Benson, I mean, you're going to be crossing your fingers, of course, but if three to four weeks go by and James Connor is the James Connor that has been the Arizona Cardinals running back for the past couple of years, Trey Benson is probably going to hit the Weaver wire. Like it, a pure insurance running back takes a lot of will and commitment to hold on to that player. Yeah, it's hard when you are rostering those guys to see a player on the waivers that pops and not just drop them.

It's really difficult. I, you know, I've been the most, I think anti-chewba, not that I'm super against you. I think it's a good pick at value, but I would rather roster him than Trey Benson. One of these guys is the current starter.

Every year you're shocked at how thankful you are to have any depth at running back to start on buys and injuries and all of a sudden, if you have a starter or a high role player, you're so thrilled because you just need them so often. And the problem with Connor is like, okay, if Connor went out for the season, Trey Benson is a spin at all. If James Connor went out for a game, it's going to be a committee. It's not just going to be Trey Benson, the rookie taking over every snap.

There's going to be, you know, other players involved. So that complicates it. Tom writes in on Instagram, where will DJ Moore finish? Well, what a great question.

That is, uh, I need the time machine. I love DJ Moore. I think that he is, uh, he's not going to be at number six again, like he was last year with Justin Field, but I don't think I think he can, let's ask it this way. Do you guys think he can compete to get in the top 12?

And then where do you think he'll finish? I would be surprised if he does. I think he'll finish closer to wider receiver 16, 17, 18, somewhere around there. You've got, uh, more target competition, which he didn't have last year and a rookie that you historically, they won't throw as many touchdowns.

And that will be the one thing that hurts his fantasy production. Yeah, I put him at the, you know, looking at his career. He had a season of 12 and a half and 11.9 11.2. I put him in that 11 points per game area.

All right. I have a question for the doosers today, um, because we are, we just finished, I think, three drafts, uh, recently the three of us or two or three of them. Um, first of all, have you guys knocked out any drafts that like, are you done? Like how many of you finished out?

I've got two down, two to go. All right. What about you, uh, Papa? Two down, two to go.

All right. Four down. So we got eight drafts of it. All right.

Um, I want to know, cause, you know, you're regular people. How do you feel about your draft so far? Oh, I'm thrilled so far. So very, uh, so thrilled, but yet monotone, uh, Papa Josh, Papa Josh, how do you feel?

I feel really good. Uh, ask me after Thursday though. Is that your big draft? That's the league of record.

But I don't have any picks. So are you not showing up? Oh, I'm showing up. I'm talking to Andy's like Thursday.

I, uh, I hired a celebrity to do a proxy for me. Oh, since I'm the champ. Oh, I'm getting a massage. Um, and then what about you, I feel really good about two teams, but my Megalable team is not.

Oh no. Not good. So you're increasing the odds of the footclan to, uh, make it into the listener. That's good.

Um, all right. And what about what about the ones that we just finished? How you guys feeling? Pretty good.

So far, listener league of shadows. Oh, I feel awful about my listener. Like we, we told the story of driving, don't drive and draft. Don't don't don't hospital and draft.

Don't drive and draft. Now was that? Oh, no, no harder ways to succeed. Falcon, didn't you drive and draft your Megalable team after you gave you that advice?

Yes. I did it. And I also hot tub and draft it too. Oh, hot tub and draft.

That's fine. Hot tub and draft. Honestly, you're giving me a new idea for Thursday. Oh, yes.

Please bring it with that. He just committed to staying at the entire draft and by the time that's just wrecked dead. Uh, I D question from Brooks fangs. Talk about the path for Drake Line interview wide receiver one.

Um, the path is very good. It's Kirk Cousins is very good. The offense surprises. They've got an easy path of great.

Like if you look at strength of schedule tools, obviously the defenses they play, they're going to change from last year. But as of now, and including, um, you know, just wind totals and expectations going forward, especially in the playoff stretch, like they remind me, uh, what happened last year, how the schedule lined up for the Cowboys, where you could look and you could say like, man, the, the, they're playing good defenses against the run, bad defenses against the past. So if Kirk Cousins is healthy and Drake London is his main target, that he could easily, easily be a wider super one this year. You have been, you were very close on one of your bold predictions to being very bullish on Atlanta.

Yes. Um, you have talked about that a lot. There is a little bit of me that looks at Atlanta, like we did say, um, when Matthew Stafford and the Rams, and we were all spending the off season just, we weren't willing to hand the baton to them yet. But like, let's just, if you just concede that Cousins is fine.

If you say that out loud and carry it to its ins, Drake London should be great. Kyle Pitts should be good. Be John should be great. Moonie should be involved.

Like there, if you just said he's fine, who's a, I don't think we've been willing to really say that. Yeah. Who is a better wide receiver? Let me, let me ask it this way.

You're a general manager. Okay. And you are on the clock and you get to draft either Chris Alave or Drake London. Who would you take for your franchise?

That is, uh, I am so upset that you said that out loud because that is, that is, the, those two have been the most difficult thought process for me. I, and I lean a lot of it. I'm going Drake. There you go.

I think I lean Drake. And so it's, it's one of those. You do get the benefit of no Derek car if you lean that way. But that's what I'm saying is the quarterback, if Kirk is healthy, he's clearly a better quarterback.

So if you're saying that these guys are the same tier, the same talent, even that London is better. Yeah. If it might be a better quarterback. Fair.

Yeah. You know, I do remember when I was a defender of the car of Derek car. Yeah. Yeah.

We all make mistakes. I just feel like watching that offense last year was so painful. There were times. Amari Cooper and Michael Crabtree, that combination together, all that he did for Darren Waller.

Awesome. Very fun. Last year, it was just awful to watch. It was the hardest to watch team.

But if you take the jets out, they didn't have a quarterback, they were the hardest to watch team because the actual offensive system was like they didn't have one. That's what it felt like. It was like, what are you doing? What?

What is this offense? And bad vibes. I've been really trying to get my head around what Crystal Labby is capable of doing in this offense because we all love the talent of Crystal Labby. We have to acknowledge the tendencies of quarterbacks and offensive systems in the schedule.

And the fact that you think Dennis Allen will be on the street soon and like, car has been able to throw the ball deep successfully in his career. But last year, they were not on the same page for the first half. Could not get into the end zone. You know, there are a lot of people out there that thinks that think Olave will be one of the bigger buses fans.

That is a prevailing opinion. It could easily happen. Thankfully, you know, Clint Kubiak is in town. You got Coobes bringing his system.

So hopefully the offense is just dramatically different looking than it was last year. Is this a real question, Kyle, from Instagram about why don't you work on Labor Day? I believe President Grover Cleveland had something to say about that when he signed that into law in 1894. Yeah, you know, I either way, just for the record, a bunch of us did work on Labor Day.

We have been rushing to get everything for week one. So a bunch of our team did work. And I get it not everyone is afforded the holiday off, but there is something very ironic about here's, let's celebrate the labor of America by working. Like what?

Yeah, we did have a really cool Labor Day release on YouTube that I should mention. Mm hmm. We had the biggest loser Brian Ketchran and then Brooks put together a 2023 highlights video, which just spoiler alert, my favorite highlight is when I sniped you in our mock draft and you literally raised your fist with fury and said, you're driving into me insane. Yeah, you were.

So that's part of the highlight video, but you can check that out and, you know, that's a fun. It's a fun one. Don't worry. We're going to have five days a week for the entire rest of the season and an extra episode as part of the foot clam.

We're going to take off Christmas too, guys. Yeah. Get prepared. I'm trying to get more Labor Days on schedule.

Talk to Grover. Not enough kids. Give me a Ouija board. Not enough kids named Grover anymore.

No. Well, I wonder how many there's got to be some. Oh, my name Grover Cleveland. I had flipped it.

I was like his name was Cleveland. But no, no, his first name was Grover. Yeah. Like he was.

Isn't it the Sesame Street character? That's what I was wondering. I was rocking my brain like, is it worse? What's that name Grover is?

Yes. Yeah. That is Sesame Street and, you know, I don't know. Like he was Mr.

President to all the little blue guy, the blue Elmo. Yeah. Okay. He's not an easy much larger than Elmo.

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