EPISODE · Apr 15, 2026 · 28 MIN
What If the Most Powerful American in the World Isn't Who You Think?
from Complexified · host Institute of Religion Politics and Culture, Amanda Henderson, Iliff School of Theology
The playbook for dismissing a pope just stopped working. Trump called Pope Leo weak. Catholics — including some of Trump's own — aren't buying it. Vatican reporter Claire Giangravé joins Amanda Henderson to explain why Leo, a Chicago-born American pope, can't be dismissed the way his predecessors were, what his quiet first year was actually building toward, and whether the unlikely Catholic coalition forming behind him can hold. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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