What if the real question isn’t whether government is working hard—but whether it is actually improving people’s lives?

How can leaders move their organizations toward sustained improvement? Why are results-driven reforms are so fragile—and what makes them endure? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with John M. Bernard, author of Government That Works: The Results Revolution in the States and founder of America’s Pulse.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.