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EPISODE · Apr 14, 2026 · 41 MIN

What is Education Actually For? with Ali Ghaffari

from BaseCamp Live · host Davies Owens, Ali Ghaffari

What is education actually for? Is it mainly about helping students get into college and launch a career, or is it about forming the kind of person who can flourish in faith, wisdom, and vocation? In this episode of BaseCamp Live, Davies Owens is joined by Ali Ghaffari, Executive Director of the St. John Henry Newman Institute and founder of Divine Mercy Academy, for a rich conversation about leadership, renewal, and the true purpose of education. Ali shares his remarkable journey from a difficult childhood to flying F-18s in the Navy, teaching leadership at the Naval Academy, embracing the Catholic faith, and helping lead renewal in Catholic education. Along the way, he reflects on how mentors, failure, and God’s providence shaped his life and calling. Together, Davies and Ali explore the growing renewal movement in Catholic schools, the leadership challenges many schools face, and why education must aim higher than test scores and college admissions. They discuss the need for schools to form students in wisdom, virtue, and vocation, while also encouraging parents to raise their expectations and stay actively engaged in their children’s education. 🎧 Tune in to hear: Ali’s powerful personal story Why leadership in schools is so difficult and so important What is fueling renewal in Catholic and classical education Why education must be about formation, not just information How parents can partner more intentionally in their children’s schooling This is an encouraging episode for school leaders, parents, and anyone asking the deeper question of what education is really for. Special Thanks to our partners who make BaseCamp Live possible: Wisdom and EloquenceThe Herzog FoundationThe Champion GroupLife ArchitectsWisephone by TechlessZipCastWilson Hill Academy Stay tuned for more enlightening discussions on classical Christian education, and join us next time on BaseCamp Live! Remember to subscribe, leave us a review, and reach out to us at [email protected]'t forget to visit basecamplive.com for more info and past episodes.

What is education actually for? In this episode, Davies Owens talks with Ali Ghaffari about his remarkable journey from a difficult childhood to flying F-18s in the Navy, teaching leadership at the Naval Academy, founding Divine Mercy Academy, and now helping lead renewal in Catholic education. Together they explore why education must be about formation, not just information, and why strong leadership, parent partnership, and a clear vision are essential for the future of schools.

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