EPISODE · Jun 15, 2026
What Real Cops Think About Crisis Negotiation in Hawaii Five-0
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Who better to give you grand perspective about the ultra-blue, heavenly waters of Hawaii - than three people living in the midwest? Well, when it comes to the vista? Perhaps not, but when we're talking about dissecting what you see when it comes to storytelling, real-life crime-based content (in this case, Crisis Negotiation) and why what you see on TV/in Movies or via Streaming isn't always "the way it is in real life" - WhatCopsWatch.Com has you covered with this episode! The Crisis Cop (and Crisis Negotiator Trainer) Lt. Pat Doering, Iowa State Police Sgt. and Crisis Negotiator Michael Clyde and OG Podcaster and Crisis Negotiator Role Player Mike Wilkerson give you some of the greatest ligh bulb moments that reaction content has to offer! Are YOU ready to learn more about the entertainment you take in when it comes to effective policing? Ready to learn more about the HUMANS behind the duty belt and badge? It's time for a Perspective Review of Hawaii Five-O, Season 8, Episode 13 - "What is Gone is GOne" via WhatCopsWatch on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network. The Perspective Reviews Podcast Connection Links: Connect with The Host (and View Direct Contact information Below!) Subscribe to This Podcast & Listen Now! Subscribe, Like, and Share Everywhere! Help Perspective Reviews Grow! Rate this Podcast on iTunes! The ultimate success for every podcaster – is FEEDBACK! Be sure to take just a few minutes to tell the hosts of this podcast what YOU think over at iTunes! It takes only a few minutes but helps the hosts of this program pave the way to future greatness! Not an iTunes user? No problem! Be sure to check out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network! Links to Enjoy This Film! It's easy to have the same great experience from this film as we go! 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To Watch Now: Visit this program on YouTube, or hit the window located below to see the hosts, guests and light bulb moments that make this program special! https://youtu.be/0FEbIqYKEVE Timestamps for This Episode: 06:15 Starting WhatCopsWatch with Mystic River Episode 13:24 Explaining perpetual advertising benefits 18:51 Focus on listening during negotiations 26:17 Negotiator and Steve's territorial clash 28:32 Involving mental health professionals in negotiations 36:46 Lessons learned from crisis negotiation 38:20 Talking to people in crisis situations 47:28 Technology changing tactical operations 52:00 Command decisions in hostage scenarios 55:27 Discussing mental health support options 59:32 Brad's struggles and proving his innocence 01:06:52 Using an odd question to reset negotiations 01:11:14 Lou's Support Group in Chicago 01:16:59 Importance of mutual understanding in teams 01:24:49 TV format shift and internet's role 01:26:28 Finding personal insights in reviews 01:31:45 Requesting feedback on WhatCopsWatch.com Questions from This Episode: *How does the portrayal of crisis negotiation in this episode of Hawaii 5-0 compare to real-life practices, according to Michael Clyde and Pat Doering? Where does Hollywood get it right or wrong? (23:41, 25:26) What are the risks and consequences of showing law enforcement officers making unsafe choices during negotiations, such as approaching a vehicle barricade too closely, as discussed in the episode? (23:41, 24:10) Reflect on the depiction of trauma and mental health among officers in the episode. How did the show use Lou’s backstory to highlight these issues, and how did Pat Doering and Michael Clyde react to it? (33:38, 53:58) What are the challenges negotiators face when outcomes are not successful? How do Pat Doering and Michael Clyde emphasize dealing with “losing cases”? (35:14, 38:12) Discuss the role and importance of teamwork between negotiators and tactical teams. What strategies do Michael Clyde and Pat Doering recommend for building better collaboration? (01:16:14, 01:18:15) How does the rapid resolution of cases and evidence processing in television (the “CSI effect”) affect public expectations of policing, as mentioned by the hosts? (33:02, 01:01:02) In the episode, mental health for both suspects and officers plays a key role. How should police respond to or support officers dealing with trauma? What resources were discussed as helpful? (56:27) What commentary do the hosts provide on the pissing matches (power struggles) frequently depicted between negotiators and SWAT or tactical leaders in Hollywood? How accurate is this, and what do real teams do instead? (26:30, 27:11) After a negotiation ends, what does “good closure” look like for both the subject and the team, according to Michael Clyde and Pat Doering? How does this differ from the abrupt TV ending? (01:13:15) What did Mike Wilkerson, Pat Doering, and Michael Clyde identify as both the “goods” and “bads” in this episode’s depiction of crisis negotiation? Which points resonated most with you and why? (01:20:31, 01:23:01) Links from this Episode: The Theme Songs from Hawaii Five-0!: The Original Hawaii Five-0 Theme Song (from the late 1960's): https://youtu.be/CpxJsy8nfjA?t=25 The Hawaii Five-0 Theme Song (from the 2010's): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNCu4Uh-JqU Crisis Cop Podcast & Related Sites: Crisis Cop Podcast: https://crisiscop.com Complete Crisis Cop Podcast Library: https://crisiscoppodcast.com Role Player & Crisis Negotiation Training: Blue Baggers Project – Professional role players for crisis negotiation training: https://bluebaggersproject.com Episode Details TV Show: Hawaii Five-0 Episode Discussed: Season 8, Episode 13, "What is Gone is Gone" Original Air Date: January 2018 Streaming Link: Paramount+ Hawaii Five-0 Official Episode Info: IMDb - Hawaii Five-0 S8E13 Guest & Host Info Michael Clyde: Sergeant, Iowa State Patrol/Crisis Negotiator LinkedIn Profile Pat Doering: Founder, The Crisis Cop Podcast Crisiscop.com – Crisis negotiation resources, podcast, training info Mike Wilkerson: Host, WhatCopsWatch.com WhatCopsWatch.com – Full show archive, contact form Highlighted Topics & External Resources Crisis Negotiation National Council for Crisis Negotiation FBI Crisis Negotiation Unit 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline 988lifeline.org Call or Text: 988 (US Only) Role-Playing for Negotiator Training BlueBaggersProject.com – Role-player resources for law enforcement crisis negotiators Role-Playing for Negotiator Training BlueBaggersProject.com – Role-player resources for law enforcement crisis negotiators Referenced Shows & Episodes Referenced Past Episodes Criminal Minds S1E5 - Our Perspective Review with Dr. Morgan Krumeich! WhatCopsWatch - Mystic River Episode Related Shows The Shield Ocean's Eleven (2001) Further Reading & Learning Books on Crisis Negotiation: "Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator" by Gary Noesner (Amazon link) Suicide Prevention & Mental Health The Bridge Documentary (Golden Gate Bridge) National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) Production & Sponsors 2GuysTalking – Podcast production and perpetual advertising EditorCore.com – Podcast editing services VoiceFarmers.com – Voiceover services How to Get Involved Want to be a guest or share your story? Visit WhatCopsWatch.com/contact and fill out our quick web form. Law enforcement interested in joining Iowa State Patrol: Iowa State Patrol careers section https://dpscareers.com/ Show Feedback We want to hear from you! Episode Comments & Listener Feedback: WhatCopsWatch.com Find full archives & resources: WhatCopsWatch.com/ Calls to the Audience Inside this Episode: — What do YOU think of storytelling that we are given nowadays inside of what Hollywood shovels to us? Tell us now! — What did YOU think of the long-running television series, Hawaii Five-O? Tell us now! Be an Advertiser/Sponsor for This Program! Tell us what you think! It’s never too late to be an advertiser in this podcast, thanks to Perpetual Advertising! Contact WhatCopsWatch now and learn more about why podcasting allows your advertising dollar to live across millions of future listeners – FOREVER! Tell Us What You Think About WhatCopsWatch: Tell us what you think and we’ll use your comments in a future ALL-FAN-INPUT Episode! Educating the public is what we’ve based all of our programming on and we’re eager to connect with others who are doing it!...
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