What really happened to Karoline Leavitt?

Freddy Gray is joined by Jacob Heilbrunn, editor of The National Interest and a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, for a tour around the houses of Trumpworld. Karoline Leavitt has resigned as White House press secretary, officially to spend more time with her young family, and Washington is busy deciding whether to believe it.Freddy and Jacob discuss who might replace her and what the exit says about the mood inside the West Wing; why Trump's approval rating has sunk to a level last seen under Nixon in 1974; whether the wars in Ukraine and Iran are edging the world towards something larger; and why Jacob thinks a presidency that broke every rule about who can reach the White House may end up clearing the path for AOC.Learn how to earn yield on gold, paid in gold, at Monetary-Metals.com/AmericanoProduced by Henry LloydBecome a Spectator subscriber today to access this podcast without adverts. Go to spectator.co.uk/adfree to find out more.For more Spectator podcasts, go to spectator.co.uk/podcasts.Contact us: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.