EPISODE · May 11, 2026 · 45 MIN
What Stuart Russell Couldn't Say At The Musk vs. OpenAI Trial
In the pilot episode of We’re All Gonna Die, Mike Oreskes and Edie Lush speak with AI pioneer Stuart Russell about the race toward artificial general intelligence, why he compares it to an arms race, and why he believes today’s AI companies are taking risks on behalf of everyone else. The conversation moves from Musk v. OpenAI and existential risk to regulation, “safe by design” AI, public pressure, and the urgent question of whether humanity can slow down long enough to stay in control.Chapters00:00 Opening: Musk v. OpenAI and the AI safety warning02:15 Meet Stuart Russell02:58 The AGI arms race04:35 The “six guys in an elevator” problem09:50 How close are we to the edge?13:21 Companies, governments, and the control problem15:17 What would an AI Chernobyl look like?20:23 Amazon, Alexa, and mocking AI risk23:30 Why regulation does not have to kill innovation28:02 Why “just unplug it” is not enough31:18 What governments can do now33:34 Where Stuart Russell sees hope35:47 Safe-by-design AI38:38 What listeners can do41:21 Why this podcast exists44:34 Slow down, think it through Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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