EPISODE · Dec 16, 2023 · 1H 37M
What we talk about when we talk about luck
from 81 All Out - A Cricket Podcast · host 81 All Out
We chat with Karthik Krishnaswamy and Kartikeya Date about the role of luck in cricket and how we can better describe the game by separating actions from outcomes. Support 81allout on Ko-Fi Talking Points: Luck v skill - and why the two are not opposed to each other The traditional method of describing cricket - by ascribing reasons for outcomes Why it is hard for fans to accept 'luck' as a major part of a sporting contest The luck component in different sports - and the 'optimal' luck cricket needs The brief phase in each ball when neither batter or bowler is in total control India's loss to New Zealand in 2020 against an attack best suited for the conditions England's strategy v spin in the 2019 World Cup compared to their strategy in the 2023 World Cup The model of the game that views contest without the layer of chauvinism The post-facto analysis that accompanies most discussions around captaincy Participants: Karthik Krishnaswamy (@the_kk) | ESPNcricinfo page Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo page Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Buy The Summer Game by Gideon Haigh (recently republished by 81allout) India (hardback) | India (paperback) | India (e-copy) Australia (paperback, e-copy) USA (hardback, paperback, e-copy) UK (hardback, paperback, e-copy) Canada (hardback, paperback, e-copy) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Related: What's luck got to do with it: a control review of the World Cup - Kartikeya Date - ESPNcricinfo Virat Kohli's battle with himself - Karthik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo The Virat Kohli century that was a trip back in time - Karthik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo What we talk about when we talk about pressure - Podcast with Abhinav Mukund - 81allout What we talk about when we talk about cricket - Podcast with Daniel Norcross - 81allout Are some points in Tennis more important than others? - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview substack Luck and skill untangled: the science of success – Michael Mauboussin interview – Wired Why it’s so much harder to predict winners in ice hockey than basketball – Vox – YouTube
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We chat with Karthik Krishnaswamy and Kartikeya Date about the role of luck in cricket and how we can better describe the game by separating actions from outcomes. Support 81allout on Ko-Fi Talking Points: Luck v skill - and why the two are not opposed to each other The traditional method of describing cricket - by ascribing reasons for outcomes Why it is hard for fans to accept 'luck' as a major part of a sporting contest The luck component in different sports - and the 'optimal' luck cricket needs The brief phase in each ball when neither batter or bowler is in total control India's loss to New Zealand in 2020 against an attack best suited for the conditions England's strategy v spin in the 2019 World Cup compared to their strategy in the 2023 World Cup The model of the game that views contest without the layer of chauvinism The post-facto analysis that accompanies most discussions around captaincy Participants: Karthik Krishnaswamy (@the_kk) | ESPNcricinfo page Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo page Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Buy The Summer Game by Gideon Haigh (recently republished by 81allout) India (hardback) | India (paperback) | India (e-copy) Australia (paperback, e-copy) USA (hardback, paperback, e-copy) UK (hardback, paperback, e-copy) Canada (hardback, paperback, e-copy) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Related: What's luck got to do with it: a control review of the World Cup - Kartikeya Date - ESPNcricinfo Virat Kohli's battle with himself - Karthik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo The Virat Kohli century that was a trip back in time - Karthik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo What we talk about when we talk about pressure - Podcast with Abhinav Mukund - 81allout What we talk about when we talk about cricket - Podcast with Daniel Norcross - 81allout Are some points in Tennis more important than others? - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview substack Luck and skill untangled: the science of success – Michael Mauboussin interview – Wired Why it’s so much harder to predict winners in ice hockey than basketball – Vox – YouTube
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