Hi, I'm Megan Cigara. And I'm Eric J. Matt. And this is the Daily Dish Bravo's official podcast.
Get into your whites because the Below Deck season 7 reunion is right around the corner. We had everything this season. A Real Housewives divorce celebration, hookups, including one with the charter guest, drunken arguments, Kate leaving the boat, lots of scorpions. But only one penis cake.
Shout out to Chef Kevin Dobson for that oddly phallic moment. Don't feel the need to jump overboard trying to remember all the buzzy moments that happened this season. To help you prepare for the upcoming Watch What Happens Live Below Deck reunion special, we put together a series of clips using Bravo's exclusive after-show. That's moments like Tanner Stirbeck and Simone Mashall recapping their hookup, Kate Chastain almost quitting mid-season, Ashton Pinehart asking Captain Lee Roseback to Fire Riley Gerber, and Courtney Skipon and Brian Descent-Perns romance.
Plus Kate's setting Chef Kevin up for failure and The Guys of Aller Answer, which may be my favorite moment from the after-show if they think they're misogynistic. It's really shocking to hear what they had to say. So join Captain Lee, Kate, Ashton, Simone, Courtney, Chef Kevin, Brian Tanner, and Riley as they really let you in on What Happens Below Deck. Ashton's now made Boseen.
I mean, he almost died because of his unstupidity on deck. When you think that you're going to die and there's no coming back, and I actually thought that we were going to lose him. But so that's why you brought Ashton back as Boseen, because he showed strength in the face of danger. And ability.
He got a second chance at living. And how many people get that? Right. How many people get another shot to be alive?
I'm working on this first one. Did you ever feel at any point during this charter season that he should have cut you some slack because you were there for him during that situation? I don't think he should have cut me slack without now. I mean, I feel like, I don't think that's the case at all now.
I would never expect him to think that he owes me anything. I'm extremely grateful that Riley did make the man of a call. What she did in that scenario was her job, what she was trained to do. She didn't carry it out appropriately.
Why, there was the only person that said man overboard. All I had to hear was man overboard outside of gear. Period. But she carried it out to the extent that was enough to save my life.
I don't feel like I saved Ashton's life. I don't feel like, you know, were we all a part of it? Yes. That was Captain Lee.
He stopped the boat. I didn't get anything. I don't want to thank you. I would expect him or anyone else to do whatever they could in that moment to save me too.
I don't think that he takes the job for what it is, which is Boseon. I think that as a Boseon, Ashton's main duty would be to owe anybody respect your their role as a part of that team. And not trying to f*** every girl or be everybody's bro. That's not me.
You got the call from Captain Lee to come back this season. What's going through your head when you get that call? It's about f***ing time. I feel like I was mad when I became like she put Kiffin in his place quite often.
It was entertaining. She put people in places where they didn't belong though. I mentioned that everything was going really well and everyone was getting along well and then she was going to change that. First night she makes her presence known.
So going into that first cast night out there's a little moment when it comes to ordering. What's kind of going on in that situation? You tell me what's going on. Everybody's asked to say what they want to eat for dinner, right?
And that Kevin's going to order it. Everybody else put in their orders before me. I want something paleo. I just wanted something not fried.
I wanted something healthier. I felt f***ing bloated. It's hot as f***ing Thailand. I had not prepared to be on the show because I'm eating whatever the f*** I want to eat at home and that is not f*** complicated.
Unless you're not a chef and you don't know what the f***ed cheeto and paleo means. And I don't know why it triggered such a f***ing emotional event from Kevin. What do you think that anger came from? I think Kevin, honestly I think Kevin either had an opinion about me because he'd seen the show before last season.
I think he saw it last season or because Ashton had an opinion to share with him. He formed one with Ashton, like being one of the guys. Instead of recognizing where that issue lies, I'm just going to go with the scapegoat that we've always gone with and make her out of the villain. This is what you want your first impression of me?
She probably did though. She probably wants to be a f***ing bitch. She loves acting like it. I don't know what.
I know you can growly and get a thrill out of the con. She can also be a very nice person. I will say I have moments with her that she's a really good person. I think she's doing it on purpose to get thrills.
I don't want to be walked out of her. I'm not someone that's going to sit there and lay down and say, oh yeah I am. I should have said chicken steward. Or whatever.
You're a f***ing chef. If you don't f***ing know what cheeto is or paleo is and you can't handle that, why are you a chef? I'm not going to sit there and say that I didn't overreact. But I also didn't spark that.
I am a reactionary person to what is brought on to me. I think there's a difference between someone angry all the time and goes around spewing this hate for no reason. Or someone that's strong enough to say, f*** you, you're wrong. This is a fishing excursion.
This was Riley's time to shine. I kind of like giving her this trip as her own. Take charge and do the thing. It ticked me off that we were fishing in an area we were not supposed to be fishing in.
In any case, I chose not to take the matter any further. I kind of just let it die. Here's the thing. I am partly responsible for the area that we're fishing in, which happens to be an illegal area and that's why we have to move and that's ultimately the excuse that Ashlyn gives Captain as to why I should be fired.
The fishing trip was kind of like not a huge success. Something happened. But you gave him and he threw Riley out of the bus. Kate takes it upon herself to go and tell Riley what I said to Captain Lee and then I felt that she was to blame for this whole situation.
I was made to look like the idiots because how dare I come down on Riley because she should have been more prepared on her fishing trip as a professional fisherman. Kate, Mrs. Puppet Master, who was the biggest f***ing sh** swan for me in my department. And ultimately caused issues for Riley because I got pushed to the point where I was like well Riley I'd f***ing rather not have you on the boats and the rest of the crew, the dare crew feel the same about it and it ate to the point where I wanted to let her go.
This isn't really clash with the other techians. Do you normally have this much trouble getting along with the crew on every boat? Oh, you know, I usually get along with my crew mates. I get along with you know within my work environment.
I'm not mouthy all the time. I'm not rotten Riley all the time. I am truly like a very bubbly, smiley, generally very happy person. I am f***ing smiley Riley all the time until you piss me off.
And then I'm like anybody else. Anybody else. I'm going to have feelings about it. I'm not saying I'm not a part of it, but I'm not the only reason there's an issue.
I think that Ashton's going to be very adamant about making it appear like he's the best bison. And if that means like he wants it known he's gone out of his way to include me, then that's what he's going to do. I was hoping for the best out of Riley. It was anything and everything that the other guys did.
I made sure that she rotated in with him. But you can't hide away from the fact that we've had three or four crew nights out. So there was no drama. And the first night that she's there there's drama.
What's the common denominator? To get that kind of version of her again on day two. My kind of hopes for a good season and for giving her the benefit of the d'Arches kind of went to zero. It was unfortunate.
I think everybody could have handled it better. But at the end of their Riley had everything to prove. Ashton knows I worked hard. To think that I have anything to prove to Ashton would be, you know, bull s***.
I already proved myself to them last year. I was kind of reliving the hot-headed Riley from last season. This is exactly what we didn't want from you. When did you notice tensions building between yourselves and Riley?
Any little instruction that Ash would give Riley was a problem. Any little thing that was like, oh mate, you want to just re-wipe that? Why did I do it wrong? Yes, I did.
I do it wrong. How would you do it? I'm like, all right, I'll do it. Didn't know it was in World War 3.
I don't know if I said to him it was one's relax. Oh my god, he was relax. Relax. Relax.
I remember Ash was looking at me and saying, I couldn't check his head like, no, no. I think he walked away and I told him he was like, oh, I followed that one, right? I'm from the gate guy. I think Ash knew there was going to be problems because I had history.
But he held that one. I think with his patience, everyone's human. And he waited for the first time. He went as calm as he could and I mean, you just see it.
I think that's where I reached my point. I was just like, well, you don't actually belong here. Just go back to Alaska kind of thing. Riley and Kevin clashed again at the tie-night market.
This is great. This one's a big argument to the whole season. This one's great. This was great.
I don't know what the f- it's not me. There's something fucked up with Kevin. He's so insulted by calm chef, right? And now he's so insulted because I wanted to eat a scorpion.
What was the issue that you and Kevin got at the night market? The issue with Kevin is he's a f-ing crybaby. Like, I mean, I cried about night, but he's a f-ing crybaby. Yeah, so we were at the night market.
They're f-ing. They were sick. Like, that's probably the best night market I've ever been to. And there was like insects and stuff.
And I was like, it would be really cool for this last charter. Because they were into some funky stuff, like give me some random sh- And then I was like, okay, let's just buy a bunch of insects. So that's what I was going to do, which would have been really cool for the end of the season. She kind of interrupted me as I was kind of ordering stuff.
She was kind of like, just hurried the f-ing up kind of thing. Well, Kevin's a chef. And he should go out of his way to do like this elaborate dinner. I mean, all I wanted to do was go to Thailand and eat a scorpion.
But what happens is, Kevin is in front of me in this, you know, market buying every f-ing scorpion that there is. Every grub that there is, every grass-obber, every f-ing, but I hate bugs, right? He's buying every f-ing bug in front of him. I interrupt him and the vendor.
Just, you know, save me a scorpion. That's it. Good vibes up to that point. I think everyone was going to get along with all that a couple of shots.
And I just kind of walked over in my like, foul mouth attitude. I say like, oh, well, he's f-ing a bitch again. He's like, just please move along. Please move along.
Yeah. Oh my God. I was just like, f-ing me. Everyone kind of heard, and I think Riley heard as well, and then just kind of came over and gave her two cents and then Ashton jumped in there.
And I kind of like, melted into the back. Kevin goes up to Ashton and it's like, you know, and Ashton's like looking at me and he's like, smurkin. So you know he's, they're talking about you. And I'm just like, okay, what?
F-ing say it, you know, be a f-ing man instead of a pussy like you are. And what is your f-ing problem with me? Like, oh, me and my son's like, she goes to everyone now. I think she's called me on that line like three or four times by now.
And bald headed can't, condescending. I get condescending all the time. Yeah. So you caused that drama.
Ash is just so dumb because it's like the second last you tried her, Ash walks away. She continues to just go in and everyone. I didn't try to do it once because I knew it was going to happen. So I lean back and I'm just moving to something.
I was just making it in that one. You were trying to sell it, but I was like, it looked like it was going to escalate into a f-ing. You're going to see two. I was just like, right, it was intense.
I was like, Brian. What time of the month is it for you? People just think, I'm like that always. When I got into your thing, I was like, oh my God.
Was there anyone from the crew that was especially condescending towards you? What do you mean? Just that sort of thing. The idea that you don't know what you're talking about because you're a student.
Yeah, let me give it a hand down. I don't know if that even comes to my school. I've been told that other episode. But that's not really relevant.
I'm not saying that people don't go to school, they don't know anything. I'm not saying that. But they are always being upset. Like, oh, this guy thinks I'm an idiot.
But in the meantime, he was a f-ing idiot. What is it like? What is my sugienistic mane? The sugienistic behavior is prejudiced towards women.
Listen, I am so tired of this misogynistic word being thrown around, especially when it comes my way. I love women. And I love the fact that women exist on this earth with us. I think the world is a better place because of it.
I think that the balance and the interaction between men and women is a beautiful thing. And I think it's one of life's purposes is to find that soulmate in the other species that you're going to just have this connection with. It's one of the things that I look forward to in life. And I'm not saying that, forget about this scales.
It's never like that. I do not feel that I deserve to be hit with that. I try and always be respectful to women. Anybody that knows me personally knows that I will always open a door for a lady.
My mom brought me up. My mom and dad brought me up with great manners. Like, I just, an Edwardian always me. People hit me with that misogynistic stick because I think the world is a better place with women.
I think we balance each other, art's all well in life. And that's a great scale. No, the scale is never going to be balanced. I just don't think of this day and age.
It's the other one way or the other. It's like, I don't get me wrong. Like, I love women and I love what they do. But they're just going to take over this world.
Eventually. That's eventually what's going to happen. They've women are becoming so empowered and strong and amazing and beautiful. And we're like, understanding about respecting that and empowering them.
Which is a beautiful thing. But the scale is just going to go like that. Just like it, as it was like that. But why does it need to be one side or the other?
No, I'm saying. It's not going to be balanced. It's never going to be balanced. You know, like in my mind, it's the same with racism.
The only reason racism in my opinion still exists is because people identify black and white. For me, there's no identification between someone can do this because they're women. Somebody can do that because they're men. I'm just like all humans.
If a woman wants to do that, let her freak into it. If a man wants to do that, let a man do that. If a woman and men want to swap roles and dress up as men and women, like, I don't actually care. Like, whatever you're into, do it.
But the more people bring attention to the segregation and towards these different things, I think it just adds fuel to the fire. Like, and I'm just not that person. I'm so like, easy going on those types of issues. I can just tell you when I get hit with that freaking moussourgen stick.
Where should you cut this thing? Because we don't want to talk about that anymore. I love being backlashless. Can we just cut it off?
Let's talk about kind of the van ride that you and Kate shared that got a little bit off the surface. Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ!
Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ! We were riding back in a van and Ashton stuck his tongue down my throat a second time and he was also rude to me. Second time?
There were a few times. So they're all rude to me and they're making fun of Tanner's mom. Oh Tanner. Oh Tanner!
She takes it that we make fun of my mom, but that's not the case at all. Yeah. That's like what started the whole thing. And Kate brought up something to Ashton in the car about his family.
Oh yeah. What's going on with your mom? Really? And it became this big issue because he doesn't like his family involved.
So it escalated very quickly. You were talking about Tanner's mom so I was like, how's your mom? If you think you're such a f***ing bit of person, the pulling my mother out of his eyes, oh you're dumbed out, calm down, go down, go down, calm down. Jesus Christ!
I thought Ashton was going to punch you in the face. He punched the window, he came over the seat towards me. The only reason he didn't get to me is because Kevin, who hates me, held him back. If I had been in a van with Simone or Courtney or not two strong males, I don't know what Ashton would have done.
Ashton's a bad drunk. He's either really s***ing sloppy because he's f***ing everything or he's sloppy because he's hitting everything. I've previously dealt with temper issues that I have overcome and I know that a short fuse is something that is installed in me and it's something that I continuously work on subduing and not allowing to come out. It's been a big realization for me looking back and watching the season that I should not be drinking to the point where I'm just so sloppy and so messy and I don't have control of myself.
I'm from Rhode Island. I deal with meatheads all the time. It was scary. It means a big dude and everything like he.
He could do some damage. I calmed him down like he stopped everything. It's all just f***ing chill. It doesn't matter.
It lets you do everything. And I got a cassette of it so it worked out great. There's a moment when Tanner helps mitigate a problematic moment. There was like an intimate moment between the two.
It was like very cheap. It was definitely faded. I think I had stock home such a room at that point. I'm like I'll be nice.
Anybody who's nice to me. I was talking about with a bunch of raging lunatics. All of this I'm hearing for the first time. And I am.
I am shocked. And I'm sure I'm going to be shocked when I see the transpires. You sure are. And I'm sure I'm going to have a different viewpoint when I actually see the visual.
And just from what I'm hearing now, it's like you should have come to me earlier with some of this stuff. I know, I'm just thinking that I'm going to wake you up in the morning. No, not middle of the night. But next morning, I've had I known about it.
Things would have been different. It's another deal. There it is. It's not a deal because it's on TV.
So I don't really care. I don't really care. I know. I was like do your thing.
And they shouldn't see it because they're going to deserve exactly what they get. Yeah. In the moment it sucks. But it's just like, got it's not the way I run my boats.
So what exactly set Ashton off? Why do you think that he had such a strong reaction to all of that? I don't want to talk about anything when they Ash feel uncomfortable. That's what they said.
So that Ash likes to keep his family life private. Ash knew that Kate knew that it was a very private area and she decided to make it public and started to poke his buttons and then drove him insane. That's the mixture of Oakville. Yeah.
All creatine powder either. But it's a place where she should have known better and it goes back to her knowing how to push people's buttons and not expecting the repercussions of her actions. I can be a bitch. But I was being careful to be nice to people.
We were riding back in a van and he was making fun of Tanner's mother. And I was like, hey, how about we talk about something else? And I said, hey, Ash I remember when your mom wrote us all that very nice letter. I was not being negative and he freaks out.
Conversation in the van was talking about Tanner's mom. And Kate ended up then asking you, well what about your mom? Why was that such a hot button with you in that moment? In the first season you don't hear me speaking a lot about my parents or anything like that and because I decided to go and shame my life with the world.
They have not necessarily made that decision. I've got quite a big history within my family. We've been through quite a lot and I'm very protective over my family and the things that I kind of share. And the only interaction Kate has ever had with my mother was after last season, after the accident that I had, my mom sent out a letter to the entire crew individually thanking everybody for their part that they played and saved me.
And in that scenario I thought that Kate was making fun of the letter and my mom. And that's where I lost my temper. Kate's my mate. She's so clever.
She's so good at what she does. She'll push right there. And she knows where she was. She'd take Ashton that long to get up and to that.
She was kind of just- She knew what she was doing. Yeah, it was bang. She was a little- It was a lot of mistake. It was always a possibility that Kate's leading to something.
Kate's shady. But I don't think, you know, I don't know what could be misconstrued in that situation. Your mommy has to do the dirty work for you. Say thank you to everybody.
Is that it? What is there to get angry about that? It's like chef getting angry about telling me to order something and I order something. Ashton called me to apologize and he was sorry.
I saw the fear in his eyes. It was, I'm saying sorry because I know I messed up. Then after Maths, had you talked to Ashton about any of this? Did he remember all of it?
Did you? Ashton actually can't talk to him. We had a little- Right. We had a nice little bro man.
Yeah, it was all the guys. Ashton was very remorseful because he knew that he acted in the wrong way. He was sorry, but he wasn't sorry for how he made me feel. It was not how did I make you feel?
How can I make it better? What email? I'm sorry, this is from you on TV. He's very hard on himself.
That's why he's good at it. He's a good person. That's what we also, he's a very genuine person. He thinks about his actions.
He swallows his pride and like, well say when he's he's done wrong. I mean, that kind of situation is what it is. You've really done what you've done. The only thing you can do is just apologize and be sincere about the apology.
And just move on from the move on. It happens. It's definitely very personal feelings involved in the season. I've always owned up to the shit that I've caused and things that I've said that I probably shouldn't have said.
But you know what? I'm also not going to sit here and be remorseful and beat myself up for just being real. So there is an incident. Kate, you start throwing laundry on the floor and Lee, you were in the crew mass for this.
What was going through your head at the time? It was unfortunate that you were in the crew mass at the end of our day. I didn't mean to be there. I know what you were.
So we've been drinking all day and so for our boss to be waiting down. That's why your room is not down there. Kate starts to throw the pants on the floor. What's going through your head?
You know what's going on through my head actually? Is that Captain Lee is sitting there in the crew mass while this is all going down? And he's not saying a word. As a captain, right?
He's not going to want to say anything right there. We're all drinking. It's in the heat of it, right? And so you either shut it down or you walk away and address it later.
There's a time to deal with things and a time to let things slide into me to initiate a huge confrontation at that point in time would have achieved no positive purpose. He chose to let Kate, who's been his right-hand man for how many years, feel the way she feels. And then he kind of like smirks about it with Ashton with the rest of us in there. You know, like, well, this isn't good.
You know, like, it's a joke. He should have shut it down because it shouldn't have been happening in front of Captain. And he should have been sitting there at Pervy to it. My way of dealing with it is to just let the whole thing slide, extricate myself from the situation because my presence was only going to make things worse.
Because somebody was going to let their ego get in the way and try and impress me. And Ashton did act to try and impress you. It didn't work well with me to walk into a room with somebody just throwing clothes around on the floor. It kind of resembled a baby throwing attention.
Do you think Captain Lee's reaction was fair? They've worked six seasons together, so there is going to be that natural little bit of a bias between each other. Have you seen that movie, All Pass? Like, Kate, just like, that's a f***.
Like, she got that probably on like season three or whatever. There is nothing that that girl or that man can do wrong. It's the duo. I'm sorry, but it is.
No, I'm not sorry, it is. It is a f***ing duo. And would you treat someone that you worked with seven years? But someone just met the same way?
I mean, it's like you're a family member the same way that you pick someone off the street. No way you can treat them the same. No way. So you don't necessarily have a problem with that?
I don't have a problem with it. I just think the repercussions are different. Like, if Simone was doing that, or Courtney drunk throwing stuff on the laundry. It's a different story.
And there's no doubt in my mind about that. It's his decision. You know, it's not in my place to say anything. Like, I really could give a s*** because he has a good Captain.
Like, he's stern. Like, he does this thing. And everything gets done, but it's just different with Kate. Kate deserves preferential treatment because she's earned it.
I work my s*** off. It's simple. You don't get preferential treatment for me unless you earn it. You work your s*** off and you bust your s*** and you do the right thing.
If not, I am going to be all over you like a cheap suit. I think I'm only a scared Kate. I think he's scared to rock the bike with her. I've worked on motor yacht valor.
It's my third year. I know this boat. I've worked on this boat with three different chefs. Kevin's the first chef that has been like with the downstairs fridge.
This is my fridge. And to be honest, I just kind of f***ing snapped. First off, it's like, yeah, it's a crook fridge, but it's kind of like, you don't clean up. It's like a crook fridge.
It's like a crook fridge. There's another fridge that's taken through there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a crook fridge.
There's so many other f***ing fridge. It's your fridge. I'm like, well, what am I supposed to do? Because you know, on the boat, a lot of the refrigeration was broken.
Yeah. So I was really struggling. And Kevin was rude. Kevin truly is so stingy with how he feels the fridge.
It's not like he's ordering like massive zapervions that he needs all the fridge space for. Every time I open that fridge door, not only are they looking into a fridge, but they're looking at like kind of my personality. If everything's f***ing everywhere, then they're just going to be like, this chef is disgusting. This chef is like, I love that.
I'm looking at my personality. I'm looking at my personality. Look at my personality. Look at it.
Who I am as a big. So yeah, I mean, that's kind of how I am about my fridge and my freezer space. I'm a fridge manic, all right? It's actually sad for me because I knew that he had like OCD tendencies and he was overcompensating.
But at the end of the day, who's called it? Who's higher up? The chief stew or the chef? A lot of chefs come in to a yacht and they think that they're above the chief stew.
I think it's lateral. Yes, I'm fine with lateral. Yeah. He doesn't answer to Kate's.
He's not below Kate's on ranks as far as my understanding of yachts. No, I'm not nor above her either. It's not about you, Kate. It's not about you, Kate.
It's about the guests. Because everybody needs to get their shit together and work together as a team for the better of the charter. And we're all working towards the same like guest experience, like the guessing food at the guessing point. Probably more wine than food.
So make room for it. Let's talk about your day off at the resort. That was a very fun day. We got really drunk that up with that day.
There were some cannonballs that were problematic. I got an email this morning from the Dream Beach Club about the behavior of our crew. As a result of someone doing cannonballs in the pool, the DJ equipment was damaged. I actually don't remember that.
I don't even remember that. I don't even remember that. I don't remember that. I don't remember that.
I don't even remember that. I don't even remember that. I don't remember that. I don't remember that by the DJ.
I don't know anything that's broken. Then again, my leg was also damaged. So when Captain Lee called us, they said that the DJ box was damaged, I was like, yes, it wasn't me, because I wasn't in the water. They should have had a plastic guard up.
That's how you run a pool mate. You had a pool, the DJ equipment shouldn't have been there close to the pool. They'll just have a plastic guard up. I don't understand it.
Maybe there's Thai boys. They're just skinny. They don't make as much wibes. I really like that.
But you got to call back to Cannonball from the club where you broke the speaker equipment. Yes. It's embarrassing. I took $1,500 out of his tip, and I said, you got to f*** up.
Pay your dues. I had to pay for it. They didn't cost me money. They didn't cost anybody anything else.
People probably saw you embarrassed the boats. Well, did I? Did I not? Maybe I did.
You just bought the DJ and your equipment. I feel like he's... If anything, I did him a favor because he got new equipment. This exchange between yourself and Kate ended up leading to her quitting the boat and walking off.
No. No. I don't think it was that at all. I think we got to hold her.
You do think that you're better than the rest of the crew. She gets away with more than what other people can get away with. Everything feels that way about you, Kate. Okay, great.
Go find another shoe shoe. I quit. Cool. Kate, may I ask you a question?
Do you want to talk to Captain Lee? No. Keep where you go. Don't follow me.
Don't follow me. I would have to be very egotistical to think that the one blowout with Kate and I was the cause of her leaving the boat. I really think that she started assulating herself from the crew. She was getting a lot of negative feedback.
And I think that, you know, I was the cherry on top and that whole situation was the cherry on top and she was just like what I'm at. Kind of thing. She's the main queen bee. She's got everything under control.
She's got everybody under her thumb. And I think the season was a little bit different for her and I think she kind of felt the pressure. She likes to be in control and create the drama and stuff. But when she's involved in it, in my opinion, she's not being shown that she's in the wrong.
That's the whole thing. She'll create drama to make you look stupid. She gets away with more than what other people can get away with. Thank you, Tana, for being honest.
This season I think it was counterproductive because we all didn't really take a sh**. I can completely understand from her point of view. She's put in the time and she's done the effort. Don't get me wrong.
She's a golden girl. But she's not no young gun anymore. So for her to kind of just be like I'm f**king done. If I was in her shoes, I'd be doing exactly the same thing.
Like who the f**k you? Who the f**k you? I'm off. You know, I think Kate is over it.
I really do. I think she's put up with this for a lot of years. And I think that she also sees that Captain Lee's favoring Ashton a little bit. And that might be something that scares her.
But also, you know, what's her big statement to make here? You could lose her. Everybody's replaceable. I'm replaceable.
Kate is replaceable. You'll find another chief's do. The fact of the matter is she knows what she's doing. She knows that Captain Lee.
She knows that boat inside and out. And she knows how to run a crew. You know? And I think that she's playing her ace right now.
And I don't condemn her for it. I don't commend her. But I don't condemn her either. So what's going on in your head at that point?
I'm kind of, you know, like a mix of feelings. You know, like I don't want her gone. But at the same time, you know, Ashton's responsible for leaving. And that's kind of, you know, a little giddy to know how the f**k up and go down.
It's funny because people think that I'm disrespectful and I'm violent and I'm aggressive. It's just, it's funny the way she works out. When people ask me, was I concerned? Because Kate wasn't there.
I was concerned because I did not know where she was. Did I think Kate was abandoning her post or her position? Not for a second. I thought about it.
I was. Probably briefly. Did I think she was going to jump shift and leave me hanging? No.
Thought never crossed my mind. I really wanted to. The only time that I knew that anything was a mess was my coffee wasn't there. Yeah, Riley had to bring you up.
And then the coffee that was brought to me. Oh, Jesus Christ. You could have stuck a f**k spoon in it. It was pretty young.
And it would have stood straight up. This stuff was so strong. And I'm going, which Kate? This is not my coffee.
Because not only is she delivering your coffee, not made how you like it. No cereal. No Cheerios. No fruit.
No exteries. But also, by the way, Kate's off the boat. I said, where's Kate? And she goes, Kate who?
Kate leaving. You guys are asleep. You don't really know what's happening. You wake up.
Find her gone from the boat. Kate, you ready? Mm-hmm. I'll see you up here.
Here I am. Back at the boat. Yes. Oh, here we go.
Oh, here we go. This woman looks like she does not want to be asked any questions. She's just not in place with the world at the moment. I'm not even going to engage.
Do you guys think you would come back to the boat just as casually as something like that? Yeah. Because I need to get to the point where I leave the boat. I'm like, screw it even.
Someone must have really pissed me off. So I don't know anyone in any explanations. I'm back here. Like you wanted me.
That's totally fair. I understand where Kate is coming from. So I'm just okay. Did you think she was ever going to come back?
I'm sure if she was going to come back a night. But I was doing a best case scenario kind of work. I just go with the flow. So I was like, here right now and everything's fine at the moment.
And when it's not, it's not. I kind of went into Courtney and Simone's job. There's already been issues with interior. Longer's been f***ed up.
Having some sort of service. And everything like now it's just the two. I don't want to say unexperienced. But you need to choose to do it.
You need that leader role where you follow in line. Do you guys think she was going to be gone for a good time? No, I knew that was just like a tante. The other reason she probably stuck around is for Captain Lee.
To kind of see him through the season and just be like, I'll sit by your side. And that's just out of respect really. It wasn't out of any of us. What brought you back?
Because I've worked for Captain Lee for a long time. And I'm not going to let bastions poor behavior ruin my reputation. Do you think if we went to the U.S.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A? Who would have been okay?
I think it would have been fine. We'd have just been like 95% more tired because we're down a person. Would either one of you guys ever want to be chiefs to do one about like this? How long was that pause?
I don't know. I don't really think that much about anything. I don't know. I feel like if I ever got the opportunity it was supposed to be a T-student and I applied myself, I'd be okay.
It was not something that I'm working towards. No one's really fine. No one's really starting to be like head of peasantry. You're not like, yay.
So you and Kevin clashed several times throughout the season. But you did get revenge on Kevin in a kind of creative and fun way. Why do my revenge just always involve dick shaped items? I don't know.
It's like my personal legend like the Alchemist. Like the universe has conspired to make my revenge involve dick shaped items. I did not plan on this, but it happened. So it's Jamel Hill, their preference sheet.
We want a bunch of like painted shaped items. We want a painted shaped cake. And so I was like, okay. And he's like, let's just do it.
I'm like, don't you think vertical would be better? Don't answer. I'm just saying. I thought I'd be more.
Wow. So that's one of her friends. But then it's like day one lunch and he's like building the cake. And it's lunch at the beach picnic and he's like, I kind of like, hey Kevin what platters do you why?
He's like, don't be a dick. Kate. I was like, oh. I was out of nowhere.
We had a beach party. It was lovely. No doubt. And he's still building the cake.
He was so focused on the cake. He's such a pastry chef. And you guys are talking about charity. He's like rushing me.