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This is the place where sports fans can lie dead in sports. I mean, who's gonna be joining me on the show? We have Spike form a hulk Hogan fan Nick And FIFO what up y'all what up though? What's wrong?

Shelton is out tonight So it just be the four of us so make sure you guys hit the thumbs up button and let everybody know that we are now live If you are not if you are not a member of the show you can join at youtube.com slash dead in sports Or you can click icon next to the super chat button, but another that man. Let's get into Sports talk with our as we are now doing kicking things off with our best performance of the week from Sneeze fo I have it like one of the worst scientists attacks and because I have like every segment on today's show over here and also We was in person. I would not be here. So thankfully we are doing this from home But the best performance of the week give you a two for one special man, you know saying I Hispanic So, you know, we got deals galore Jokech versus Shay in this MVP race.

They are definitely separated themselves from the number one in two spots Shay with a historic performance another 40 point game Joker in a losing effort had a 30 point almost triple double Well, both of these guys are playing at a delete level that nobody else in the NBA can't even touch right now First I want to talk about Joker and the reason why I want to talk about Joker is because I feel that as much as I've had Joker as a number one spot, I think Shay has passed up this week now That's not to say that Joker is not baller. It's not to say that joker's not having historic performances But she is different a shade doesn't care who the hell is guarded hit and that's gonna be a problem coming down in the playoffs So I just want to say The NBA at the very top the best teams best players. I haven't really seen better basketball being played than what I'm seeing right now LeBron is still great. Just to take up his great.

You see Minnesota's finally surging with and we have a whole bunch of talent But none other than these two guys nobody's better nobody's playing better than these two guys are here So Joker and Shay the best performance I've seen all week Bro, you cheated bro exactly we asked for one What is your turn you do it too It's not to be these are the top two you can't go wrong either way that you go to MVP race for me Shae just squeaked by Joker just a little bit this past week But these are the time to go down if joking when MVP have been with a beef in four three Which will put them in like It was a man to it was a man to my father favorite I thought see before no no no Was Everybody saying for you Not cuz he can't not cuz he don't have more than y'all he wants words a lot of people to say for right Yeah, he won two back in the back and any other That's what it was that's what it was okay. I thought he had damn he has three MVPs already That's insane. He should he should not have three. You know He should not have three so all the people with three MVPs our career back to the bar with six Jordi with five Bill Russell with five LeBron with four with Chamberlain with four Larry Barrett with three magic with three No, just a little with three and Joker with three so they make they basically say he's top ten all time already What what you said it was a bet his have been in the Hall of Fame He's already there.

No, I was just saying I'm just saying like because if you get three MVPs regardless if you want to ring or not That's your a Hall of Fame. Oh, well, he taught you about No, right? He's one seventy four. Yeah, he's got some Damn, I didn't know he had three.

I thought he had two yeah He stole them bees and then the one the year you should have won they gave it to him be and I forgot about it He should he should have five no He should even have four no, but you said the one that I think yeah, yeah, yeah, I flip flopped him Yeah, never mind. So yeah, yeah, either way ago I guess based on my mouth he would still have four because damn all they did was So basically so the question is is he top ten already all time? Why do you think that's a tough one? Yeah, I'm your top 20.

I think he's even cracking the top 15 That's the best ball place you've ever seen in your life bro. He's already ranked third on high in triple doubles Yeah, we got to listen we got to listen Yeah, because I hear what you're saying people but I got it don't sound right because I'm like it don't it don't But I tell you this let's let's do that next week. Okay, let's bring top of the or we can we can bring 20 And then we can figure out if we can narrow it down to a collective 20 a month is Okay, we can produce off here, but um moving on Uh, let us go into The first segment which is about college basketball college basketball is back And we are now officially in march matinees season for both men and women's leagues with selection sundae behind us Which teams are y'all looking forward to seeing in the tournaments? And do you have any final four or championship predictions?

If you do you can let us know but if not which team you guys looking for And I'll give it down just ready for the NBA draft about Uh I'm looking forward to us women's basketball team more than anything doing this march man I want to see how far julie can take her team And I want to see is they gonna hype her up if she going to turn around like they was doing kevin car Because she did in her bag this year and I ain't seen none of the I seen none of the stuff and bopani said this nigga. I'm with you heard it Unless she don't got a rival And I don't know if that's true with that like I still feel like that she should have that battery behind her It's good as she is and as good as her team has been I don't feel like kevin car team was that good But again, she did have angel Reese as a slick rival after they did the hand in tonyayo thing But i'm really surprised it She like you've got to find julie games Like it's on fs one and like it's never like in the spotlight But they did say ratings were up 13 percent this year I'm just still surprised that we haven't heard more about julie with as well as he's playing So that's what i'm looking for too too as far as most and on the men's side I think arbor to do well. I think to the see it the way i'm surprised that the scc is now turned into a basketball conference They got 14 of the 16 teams that are in the conference in the tournament that's shocking to me So I want to see how all of those teams perform within the tournament, but there's no singular team in the man's that i'm looking Like i ain't zoning you know one thing i do want to see how we're scc performing too I need i have a question before the angel Reese thing and um Now feel free to because i admittedly wasn't watching before the the the angel Reese thing Was kevin cark getting the hype that she eventually ended up getting after she Developed a rival Yeah, yeah, so i mean that's part of the reason why i became that way more than juju right now Yeah, i mean And juju just good like it ain't she I don't look a fair comparison with people looking me crazy Wait, she looked different when she played it don't look like like her pace of game Like how she played defense like all of it's just it looks like she playing a different game But that's hard to sell if you're not a basketball pierce. I feel like for Not finally answered it just doesn't sell the same because it's like 3.3.3.

Yes I was gonna say like I think that I feel like there's a little bit more parity with women's basketball than it was last last year When it was just you're really only looking for angel Reese kevin cark type of stuff. Um, but you got juju you got ucon you got Yeah, you see la you got a lot of like you got a lot of you got a lot more parry So I think that's why ratings are also up because um I think you just have more teams to watch that are actually more exciting than just one player So I think that's good for the sport or for the for that uh League but um I do find it interesting that juju isn't like the face of women's basketball right now I think we would probably say she is but how it's marketing and all that I don't like She's playing as good as uh, if not she reminds me of like when Kelsey Mitchell was coming out like Kelsey Mitchell I'm a little bit biased because she came from since 92. Um, she was she played like a dog But like you didn't really get to hear her that you didn't hear much about her until like the driving She was a number two overall pick which I think juju will be a top three top five pick. Um, she's going to be number one Nobody's gonna pick a bojoo.

It's like what was your take on juju? Um, I told you can't she's going to be the next LeBron James. I think Yeah, I can say she's gonna be the next biggest name in sports like she is the next I'm LeBron rich. I absolutely absolutely they're not talking about her That's because he playing all one of west coast.

You can't be that's on bron James And she's coming home to the east coast and she still I didn't even realize this you can't even go pro yet Like she's still gotta go. They got a age minimum in the WNBA which I was a pro you got to be 22 to the other before the draft in the WNBA I play like another year or two years To make a moment to make a fan base. Yeah, she's not with clutch. She's not with clutch is over with Well, I was gonna say she probably she probably gonna make more money in college And she probably wouldn't approach anyway based off endorsements and all that but um going to the men's side And I was gonna say for the for the men's side.

Um, I'm looking for uh, I'm room for Alabama They got like I said, lu they got my boy young blood back there. Yeah, say like Uh, florida but I was his watching that florida game It was close and then until it wasn't um, but they got that number as you can see on the graphic number one I forgot his I think it's last name, but he's a scorer like he's a legit score Of course you got Cooper flag, but since the injury, I don't know what how far do we go? Um, and then outside of that, I think um, who else is a good kind of thing of a good team? I think number four from armor You know the low post do I think he saw it.

So I think they may go far, but I do agree with you florida. Maybe it seem to be Yeah, I think they just got so many different guys and they all play well with each other Uh, I don't know. I just I think florida may be the team to be but I'm room for bam As a for upset, uh, and of course you go everybody's gonna try to see how what Duke is gonna do because of flag but Yeah, those are the only things that I'm looking forward to seeing I don't see any I got to look at the turny, but I don't really see any standout NBA prospects outside the ones that are the obvious names Even though even the two top five picks that's supposed to come out I think records make a damn tournament So it's just like a spayly and um, I can't think of the other kids name But that was one of the interesting things like those they said they're supposed to be top two out of the three picks and they didn't even make a tournament So I was three but what I heard like somebody ain't as good as they said he owned yeah And um top three picks and I make a turn and shout out to uh, st. John Rick Latino, uh, dirty Rick That's what they call it with the streets kid But he's a great coach.

He turned around every program again. He'd be talking about any return around some random ass programs Like we feel like I'm saying john's gonna run around program and ain't been relevant for a minute So uh, shout out to him. They may be upset, uh final 14 When I was a little boy see how far st john's go that's gonna be interesting watch I think one thing you do have to credit the NCA with this. They know this this is a good tv show Like we don't know none of these people say yet.

We still need to show about it And we know how exciting march gets but they still don't have any market with players other than cook And I'm excuse me flag. Cool flag and we don't even know if he won't play but Jesse's been elven in a room That's all about the same right? You know, you know, if you don't if you don't win somebody saying it You'll be silent Yeah, so I do think like they do a really good job and put this tv so together even with just no Carolina controversy How do people think they should be playing right now? They shouldn't they probably gonna be bounced out tonight But yeah, kid boy, it's gonna be flags everywhere Uh, you can get away with the two trubs in office But um, admittedly I haven't been watching college basketball.

Um, so I but what I will say is that Um, there are two things that I do want to see just based on my observations from the mad and chatting the dentist works chat One unc I saw the outrage and the disgust from that from many which just uh that one test and and uh, Nothing is the college football chat the um Just you and see isn't that isn't that good this year? So I was I was surprised to hear from many and see many texts that they actually got in because people were really shocked about that But really the only thing I'm curious about but I was saying you saw what the controversy was right? You know, they're athletic director is on the selection committee And he made a hundred thousand dollar bonus for getting in but he claimed he walked out of the room when they voted He went see he walked out of people. That's the biggest controversy about it is they like he do some dude named bubba.

I think he's less He's the head of the committee Okay, well the only other team of interests is Duke, you know, they got this guy couper on here man Man, any any time man. He been lighting up the chat hyping him up Nick making us I'm sorry, bro. He he is a to me. He is a high-end glue guy He is not somebody I think I can't even though.

He is not someone you build your franchise around in my opinion That's my opinion. I mean, look people question my sports takes all the time. So it just look at the heavy I agree with you that he might be a high-end to he may not be a generational player. No She's like he's not someone that's unlike to me like I'm one over all big like you need is like this guy's You start with I mean, no one's really windy, but I mean just being like you start with him and you move you build out like I think that's why a lot of people think he'll be if San Antonio tanks were well enough to think he'll be great there Because I think you put him Fox and like I'll be a great big three a young guy that's okay.

I can play too. Stephen Castle I don't even know why they got Fox and then they get Chris Paul definitely out of there Which surprisingly he just I'm gonna eat you there getting the chat Fox I think Fox will be nice. I think Fox will be nice. I just want everybody to get back together But yeah, I would like to see Cooper go to San Antonio anywhere else.

I just don't see where he really excels in Yeah, well, I'll be watching just to see him play because he's the one that people are talking about I haven't seen a lot of talk from about anybody else, but that's just the state the state of Double-A right now. So it is what it is But this is definitely a time for a lot of these guys that will be playing in the NBA to kind of make a statement for themselves So we'll see what happens, but um, but yeah, man So before we get into our commercial break we wanted to introduce a new segment We want to see what you guys think about this where you guys call us out with our worst takes so And that's why people blame us on it. They don't know why shielding people hanging on the screen Yeah, so um, we don't have so yeah, we don't have the process fully worked out, but we definitely want to it's gonna be on the reddit Right Nick so it can be on reddit as well. We'll be looking at similar like luha y'all do on on deck tv Um, well in the comments section you guys are very vocal on you or the youtube page and the reddit threads Just leave your comments for after uh, we'll start with this episode.

We're moving forward Y'all keep a track of our takes which you know call us out as individuals or as a collective Um, and we'll read off the you know the most interesting one that gets highlighted Uh every week towards the end for like along with superchets. So I see some people are mentioning some comments I don't think I said i'll say i'll say i'll say he was probably top five here based off all that So i don't know where that again. I already had it. You had it I got I need proof here because I don't believe that I don't believe how i say that You know say because I you see in our other chat I had a correct niggas on what I've been saying on the show You definitely I'll say I can live no more I don't ever have that ever when that makes sense to me but I want to start if I don't want to start off with that please Show me the data show me the evidence.

Um, I'm moving forward. Yeah, y'all call us out call us out on our worst takes because I know y'all damn sure it was credit for our best takes Hey naz niggas in the chat. Well, that's where Donavus has people's eye on take gotta be studied. That's funny Trying to hold it right now It had a question about his game.

Nobody never questioned what is Is the impact is in fact, it's a lot of niggas who put in lead loop It's the availability his impact is there when he's on the court, but he's just not on the court Yeah Yeah, I'm wanting to fly y'all digging the correct. See what you can find Uh, all right, but yeah, yeah, john's john's looking fine. Um, so anyway, let us go to Uh, let's take a commercial break and then we'll be right that a few folks tough. I'm that is what hey, man Yeah, I can't wait to hear these but I will be back after this break.

Oh, I didn't hear no Oops, I'm sorry. I think I Uh, play the wrong way. Hold on if you're looking for real conversations and motivations to be your best Then you have to check out another week in the books another week in the books with spike lu and rich is your going to podcast for growth and community Plenty of dope conversations take place week to week as they inspire each other to be better through conversations Another week in the books wherever you get your pocket Gotta send you that can't forget Please do we are back. We are back and um, yeah, man.

It's not for all watch it's not for all watch and for me, Nick Cleveland Cavaliers our own watch for what mainly don't have a Mitchell I knew you don't bring his name. You said the cavalier you guys just like people you can't have two kids. You got people what? You know, I I wanted some time.

I've been watching the cows. They played really really really good Uh, their offensive system is great. They play function really really well as a team Everybody, you know, they got the white boys. I can shoot the three and they function together.

They got the The uh, not not chance to heal but Jared Allen. So watching them. They they look nice. They look very cohesive Um I just and I like donna vimitra's leadership like what he's saying to them is that yeah, we're great Yeah, we've only lost 10.

I think now 11 games, you know in the year You know, but we haven't done anything because I've been on great teams before that have been the normalcy and I believe and we haven't gone anywhere But there are times when donna vimitra out there just like luka he just shooting terribly from the field and it looks like a time They he being cared by everybody else from the team because of how they're shooting So will this team in the playoffs have the physicality they need to endure a series and to for the way that they are playing Go all the way to the east of conference finals. I for me. I think it's east of conference finals are bus for them I should expect nothing less with how they look and you know, it was one game Who was I watching them play and they uh, I think they end up losing a game. Uh, it was a good sartine Who was it?

I can't remember it was the most recent game they lost. You talking about the lame magic Yeah, it was a lame magic and your boy and yeah, they are kind of sorry and and tajorone out there talking shit and woke up Uh, Paulo. Yeah, make arrow and he went to work on him, bro So it's just like not it's feeling themselves. But anyway, I think now it's like and I much like you on the down of the mitch No, you not don't need to this point, bro at this point best team in the league right up there Okay, see it's not to put up a shut up, bro If you really that guy top two in the league according to you you gotta put up a shut up, bro So let's see if their style of play can translate to playoff basketball.

Talk to his position Uh Uh playoff That's why they can't make basketball takes which we know that playoffs is all about matchups And the only matchup that really matters to me is against boston bossing wins that matchup in my p.m That being said, I do think that the east of conference finals, but that's what the road stops for it Here's a high take the calves are only going to go to a championship when evan mobe becomes the best player It's if long as long as they're depending on donna vimitro to be the number one guy And they're not gonna make it where evan mobe is defense and like evan mobe is like a second coming to go in it That's what he's they should be gearing up him towards he got the defense. He got the mid range He can shoot the jumper at three sometimes. So the only way they're gonna win it is if evan mobe is a best player They are they're definitely trying to unlock his full potential You know, um, I think that was one of the things that donna vim was talking about and other teams like you was really telling him that he doesn't know how good He really is and they're really trying to unlock that from him. But um, right now He doesn't really no one on that team really has to carry this thing, you know, and and take the bull by the horn That's so to speak.

But when it's fourth quarter, Nick Donovan is the guy they're gonna have to go to He delivers not like brunson. I like bruh, you know, bruh, that's a different category of plus But not bruh down of a mission is the best shooting or in the league. I've been saying that for years now I know it is on the rise. He will surpass him I think he is I think he's it hasn't I don't know.

It's not an conversation. This is about can't stick on the cleven catalyst I call him the mountain. I don't watch after they won 60 games have the best See a record of the Easter conferences nuts and I Think that um, I think that they In a seven game series, it's hard to pick them against boston, but um I think that uh, they will get to the e-commerce finals and they will face the next that's what I say Mm-hmm. How do you because because I'm not meeting boston in either's cleven because the next is gonna face boston in a second round So that's the first time I'm trying to tell you and the way cat playing right now.

Hey, it cats out the bag kid Hey What's brombone getting back in the rap because I this is the best thing to happen to the next bromo get injured Because now they're playing like they're running the offense through cat and you kind of see and finally uh, at least the last game of kill brit Just finally start to show the fuck up and not just be a fucking catching shoot that but um Don't have a mission was going to take this team to to to far into playoffs We'll see I have this question based off of what spike said in terms of mme Be the best player to be You either have it or you don't and mme boldly has a lot of potential But when you're supposed to be that guy you kind of have that already Even as a young player that they have to unlock like Edward's always had that Kg always had that eva moly don't have that he has the talent But he don't have that that extra that makes of the dog that you that you have to be the number one guy He don't have that and I don't think they may be player that they didn't have that and they got it later Because you're bored at the point. That's a good point Well, we'll find out we are a couple of weeks away, but moving on let us go to our um Title of the show And if you for a couple of weeks ago, you said we needed to talk about the fiend at sun's and we are now about to talk to the fiend at sun's Talk about the fiend at sun's um I watched them. I have been watching uh, then play Definitely watch that game, you know against the Lakers and um Yeah, now's a good time to have a conversation So the fiend at sun suffered a disappointing 107.96 loss to the law center was Lakers on the road this past sunday since February 8th They have won only five games They are five and twelve and are currently in 11th place in the western conference But they are less than two games outside of the play in tournament if the sun's don't make the play in tournament What should they do this offseason? They know better if they make it or they know the same rules apply for their off season They traded Kevin Durant this does not work and I told you guys that the phoenix says we're not gonna work because they never had a Point guard and they went it got brally bill and demi booker and kd and that does not work We're basketball perspective.

Uh, I know they went and got tray. Uh, what's his last name? Like skit cat? Trigolds, uh They went and got him but that wasn't enough.

He's not really a starting level point guard for the whole year Like kd plays spot starting point guard, but it's of course, but he's not a starter like that Uh, but it's a rap kid. They can't even cast the Dallas Mavericks And they are decimated by injury and this team is fully healthy And I don't know if you see the interactions between kd and buddhoser kd's out of it He don't give a damn about this team He obviously didn't want to get traded to the Warriors. He obviously didn't want to get traded mid-season So that's the reason why they didn't move them But at the end of the day kd's out of there. This was a dubster fire David jolts needs to be fired based off of the egregious moves that he has made because from a basketball perspective this is Yes, jones here jose and it's ties jones.

It ties jones. It's high jones. The point guard. Yeah, but yeah, it's around Let me ask you some why you giving kd so much bill This is this is where I wanted to conversation go ahead people.

So because my thing is this with kd kd is a gear what I want this kd kd's almost wrong. Oh, the prime 40 years old right? Don't do that. No, no, wait, wait, hold up, but I give I give labrada same bail I'm not I'm not putting all the weight of the franchise all the bra shoulders anymore That was young labrada.

That was young kd at this version When you get to this aid is can you perform at a high level and everybody else like you need to find that other guy that you put The weight on their shoulders to carry the franchise the older guy just play your game and be productive kd has always done that for his entire career I I always got on kd when he was younger and okay, see i got on kd would go this date But at this point in his career This is the twilight of the career. Can you just play at a high level which he's doing that? So to me it's the Phoenix such that have wasted another great year of Kevin Durant not the other way around Okay, we're going to go to the military class was that watching Yeah, it's right. I see why Russell Westbrook had the the type of relationship that he had with kd Like it's all coming to fruition more.

I understand if you for what you're saying in the sense of the team may be built wrong but I have arguably one of the 15 best basketball players of all time. We're just talking about skill set sample. It's a minute a seven-feet talk and shoot from anywhere and Time after time after time all he's did is underachieve and then You giving him the same belt out that the mainstream media give him and that he expects from everybody is like oh, I did my job Sometimes I didn't enough bro. Sometimes you gotta show up and do more than what's expected of you indeed the leader and be the person that people thank you are Elite a team something Do you hold the match?

Durant Carmelo is not as good as Kevin Durant Don't do it. I'm scoring a standpoint. Yes. I don't want to win.

I'm going to win. Yes But we're talking from an overall player standpoint if I have Kevin Durant on my team bro I'm expecting to win and do things and everywhere he goes if he ain't got stuff courage and he ain't got Draymond Green and he ain't got Clay Thompson he can't get it done and it's time people so I call him out about it. This ain't on James Jones This is on Kevin Durant, bro. He did this in Brooklyn.

He did this in Oklahoma City He doing this sitting down with Phoenix people argue that Devin book is one of the top two guards in the league Because I know it's niggas that I'm gonna call him number one. That's fine and he good enough to play out of position This is way too much Kevin Durant bill, bro. This is his fault. Just like And Oklahoma City was his fault.

Brooklyn was not his fault. They were a successful team that a pinky toe Did it allow them to get to the next round? Every two things he did. He hit the shot.

He hit the shot. He hit the over time because of him. We got it to the table. And here again, here's the thing about Kevin Durant.

So don't put me in the same category as The the mass public media because you could before he was on this show and can't get a test before Nick was on this show Before shelter was on this show I called out Kevin Durant and I will always talk about the series that he had against the Memphis Grizzlies where he went down the stretch and missed Big free throws. He missed big shots He Kevin Durant has been a disappointment outside of the Golden State years when it comes to winning championships, right? I don't disagree At that point in his career, I held him at that standard So if we're not gonna hold abroad James at the standard of the weight of the world on your shoulders to win a championship Got to give the same belt to kv because at this point they're just he's not you can't Assume some championships before though. I understand that I don't disagree and they're prime I Through every guard at kv.

He's no longer at his prime. He's just playing at a high level. Steph Curry's no longer at his prime You just played at a high level. So you want to bring some reason into this conversation before I talk Yeah, man.

I mean for one people talking about something you can't blame Kevin Durant But she got a blame even if you talk about this little piece around him because this nigga wanted to go He's not he just got traded down nowhere. He asked to go to beat it So you can say him and Devin Booker saying this nigga knew that before he got it And when he got there he didn't make it happen they had to do that and they didn't stop it The same way he's blamed LeBron. He didn't trade for Bradley bill That's like they say not to happen because the same way he's blamed LeBron for us. He did not say no I don't want Bradley bill here.

So now you gotta take some of this too, man Like and I'm not saying like it's all on him but majority of this shit is on him because I was in the track record Because the track record if it would be different in thank you If it was just like oh, this the first time he got there and he really do nothing he do it Okay, so you like spike said he do it in brook. It's a good. He's a championship and live winning And they can say we got hold the bronzer standard. He's a top 15 players saying we got whole charge Barca We're talking about barbie took him against Jordan Listen the wrong way to multiple championships and didn't win Gibson was the best player on his team besides But it's actually what I'm saying I was just you didn't let me finish He's LeBron went to a stack team to win just like hey, dude You're saying like what are we talking about here?

Through 56 games kb is played 37 minutes shooting 52.6 percent So let's ride out of the 53 for the field. He's shooting 42 percent for three 83 percent for the freedom line What did I have watch what I feel is that 11th place? Game hard and good issue too. What that would be?

Game hard and good issue too. It only means James Harden never let his team let a team to the finals as the best player So that's so much. Yeah, this is what this is what's the best step was never his number two One of the greatest basketball players in the history of basketball was never his number two Step in number two he won B he was won B he like he never won B he was number two he was number two he won B He won B a top 10 big man of all time. Jaylin on those girls they were his team who was the best player on that team Kevin Durant, okay, so Because of Kevin Durant yes step was right If Seth only had two rings and didn't have the other two we KD he would not be ranked high as he is Let's keep it but he does Go to the goal is they were You can't take this Behind the wrong I'm saying no I'm saying like the the the pedestal that y'all put step on is based on a foundation that KD helped built That go and say words.

Don't see does not happen without KD You gotta do the word foundation KD was a part of the foundation I'm saying that the foundation of course is the players they drafted but the foundation of the dynasty is built on top of Kevin Durant too They don't have the dynasty without No because again these comparisons don't make sense doc because It's not KD in that scenario And Jaylin this is what I'm saying this is what I'm saying I don't know if this is people's point but like what I feel like is what we're gonna do with revisionist history is that people are gonna shit on Kevin Durant's legacy like he wasn't as good as he is even till this day Like of course, I'm not I'm not taking blame away from him completely as far as like yes Has he failed in certain moments in any parts of his career where you could put a lot of blame on him as the best player Of course you could do that with a lot of players But let's not act like he is not a top 15 top 20 all-time player That's not act like he didn't help build that don't say where your dynasty because they begged him And let's hold on let me I'll let y'all talk and let's talk about the best years the Brooklyn Let's have in the last decade have come off of Kevin Durant's tenure They don't come off anything else because like people mentioned that told that told that told that told online They could go into the Eastern Conference Finals if it wasn't for that told because he won he made the shot It's footstoobie pause. So my thing is when we're him going to the Phoenix Suns This makes the whole thing we're taking out one part of the big blame is because we're just two things one KD has always told you He is not a leader. He does not want the leadership role. He's been told He's been told that I know it's crazy to sound like because we always say the best players to be the leader But he has never wanted that he's always I just want to hoop the other thing is where the hell is this energy for Devin Booker?

I thought this Phoenix Suns team with Ben Booker's team can I thought that Devin Booker was supposed to be one of the best players one at his position It's not the best players position. Why are we not talking about Devin Booker? This motherfucker was up to o in the NBA Finals and didn't seal the deal As the best player on that team as what y'all say. So so we're talking about Kevin Durant in this team with the Phoenix Suns Where is the case to be made about Devin Booker and his things again?

Kevin Durant does deserve a piece of this pie But it's not a majority piece at my pin because he like people said came to that team as the mercenary He's not the heart and soul that team just like I'll say that he wasn't the hardest soul to go to state That was Steph Curry that was the first team to always say that so that's why I'm so like well You can't have it to wait. You can't have it to wait. I'm two ways to what I'm a few a couple of things you just say Alright, so first thing is first I don't wanna get a ton of lunch because it makes that half five minutes to one game You get all that bullshit y'all talking about the total line you have a whole overtime with the game and the bitch it was Brian from the run everyone's out was same as hard What are you talking about man? That's what I'm saying about when the Brian was in the finals and he had an amazing game one and Jay Jay I Was Moving Right before because like people said don't confuse us with the mass media can't has anybody ever in this in this group as far as Ever compare Kevin Durant to LeBron as far as the other thing No, but you know No one I don't think anybody in the right mind would say that Was that conversation take place?

I don't think the four of us or five of us Because we know what it is So much bill like y'all like y'all absolving him from Everybody involved has a piece of this entire pie when I'm saying is Kevin the rat out of the players has a smaller Speaser the pie out of the players The player that has the biggest piece of the pie is what's the Bradley view partly not? Right in the history of basketball in the history of basketball No, I don't rally do you know I'm bad out. He's the odd bad out. He's the one that don't fit He's the one that they put on the bench.

He's the one that hey, you know what I gotta change your game for what you just tell me about In a moment he don't have anything saying thing applies to rally bill No, he may be a score just a mobile talented and ain't tapped into that talent Bradley bill ain't tapped into the full talent of what he is Therefore They traded for him and he no fit the person that deserves the biggest blade for this thing is the executive of top No, what's it they are? Take away from me in the top 15 Let me interrupt you real quick just that that Scotty Somebody just alright cool, but even when you say that it's on the executive Nick the things is not making moves without Katie and You think it was gonna trade right without any input it they could have mixed that shit immediately Just the same way Katie makes this trade this year to the Warriors. He makes that shit and they stopped it Like he got a new trade calls Katie takes fault in his You're going to my point as far as yes, there is a piece of pie for Kevin Durant to have but Devin Booker is in this conversation Because we're talking about the Phoenix Suns the Phoenix Suns were built around Devin Booker No, no, no Bad I'm saying that a booker has some layman's but it's not as big as Katie made a decision to leave Brooklyn and go to Phoenix Better That's unquestionable my thing is The context of Katie leave in Brooklyn was like fucking dumpster fire when he left He's ready to fire but we did not he was the only stability a part of the Brooklyn Nets because Kyrie didn't want to take the vaccine And Harden was built like Luther and that's what he was like Katie went to Brooklyn and he said I want to play with Kyrie and a guy Kyrie and then Kyrie did that bullshit to talk about he also Said that I want to play with James hard and a broad James hard and he's thought pulling James hard and shit He always does KZ K. I mean Katie can't be absolved from Orchestrating these teams doing the behind the scenes shit acting like I got this much power now when it's own me to make the team Succeed oh, I just want to play basketball.

It don't you can't have it both ways It don't work that way and that's the reason why he gets the majority of the blame in his last two situations And you can even add okay seeing this because he was the one that decided to leave when they were in the finals and almost there He's the one that decided to do that all of the situations that he's been in is because of him That's why he gets the majority of the blame for all of this and even you talking you talking about Brooklyn I mean the Delta fire and yeah, okay, I have the same looks bad and I go this nigga chose again He chose Phoenix Nick and he like yeah Miami and Phoenix as the two options. He wanted to go to he chose Phoenix He allowed that trade to go through at the tree deadline. We all woke up to that trade and we knew that he wanted to go to Phoenix this there was 28 of teams he could have went to and he chose Phoenix So you chose this destination you chose this you chose this negative you have to take blame in this And I'm saying major piece of the blame because you are a big piece of the scene I'm all I'm saying is this I'm not absolving Katie from any blame I'm not saying that he is blameless and I'm not saying that he's innocent and he's done nothing wrong He has done things wrong I eat going to Phoenix in the first place But what I'm also trying to say is that there's context for everything that we're talking about that doesn't paint that that paints him in a light Where it's like I can kind of see how you got to that point even though you still made a bad decision And even with that context, Devon Booker is still a big part of the Phoenix Suns He's the only one that's gonna be left after Katie leaves and Brad whatever they do a rally bill And this team will still be built around them booker Just like it was before just like it is now. It's like we'll be afterwards So that's what I'm saying like I don't understand how he isn't a part of this conversation We're talking about the Phoenix and home because Katie's basically out door So I hear if you want to have it that's why I'm like we can have this Katie conversation But legacy wise I will always defend Katie legacy wise because he is a fucking all-timer and we keep on talking about him like he's like he's a The reason why Booker is being absolved for this version of the Phoenix Suns is because nobody gives a fuck about Devon Booker anymore Ever that he lost the finals, you know, that that's just you know He's just he's just falling from grace in terms of and coverage, you know And part of that is because they are losing Kd is and has always been a superstar Even coming out of Texas when he came to the lead and he's going to have and garner the most intentional Anything that he goes to and as everybody said he wanted to go there.

He also wanted Bradley bill there to which and that's the other issue So he pushed for Bradley bill because he wanted to say and Ross the construction So he's number one Booker to Bradley bill three because he doesn't want to wait straight and no trade clause You believe in the gym. I think the GM. I mean, you know, I think he could not have pulled the trigger So maybe he's third because he did go get Bradley bill and he should have known that it probably would not fit You cannot pass up a chance to get Kd Especially at the way he was playing at the time It sounds like a no-brainer, but it just did not work this other move that he did did not work and before rightly as he said it Um, say it before he said it wasn't gonna work and but I think what's next for them is what it should be us saying Booker Booker's next Kd's out of there I don't know how he's gonna get rid of Bradley bill But now moving forward this thing will be built around every booker and make that conversation about Booker and whether or not He truly can be that guy on the team will be answer And this is why one of my flowers we need to have a segment about giving my flowers for what I've been told y'all that Devin Booker Wasn't that nigga for years now? He was a over-hyped score at best.

He's a life. He's a life kid Bradley Do he's a rich Bradley deal. Let's own it. He's a rich man's Bradley He was all the one that showed up in the finals was he yes Chris Paul as Chris Paul is often known to do If Devin Booker had a solid number two in the finals they would have a chance he didn't like he had his number two it withered away My thing is Chris Paul is the highlight of the Phoenix Sun's era of the last 10 years because he before he got there It wasn't doing shit and when Chris Paul got there He led them he helped me them as the leader of the team in my opinion It was a destructive well enough.

He helped lead them to the finals though Booker didn't get them No, the Phoenix the Booker teams that he had they were not they were not good So I'm so glad you said that Exactly we're talking about this right now with Kevin Durant you're blaming Kevin Durant Well, at least one of y'all I'm blaming Kevin Durant for not being the leader because he is the best player But we know there's contents where I didn't say I didn't say the way we're I'm not blaming him for not being a leader. I'm blaming him for not being impactful You read these stats off to me and you talking about a team that's in the 11th seed in the West currently Yeah, so you read these stats to me don't mean shit I don't give a fuck what Kevin Durant doing and he's still a bit impactful enough to leave his team to at least a play in And that doesn't happen with happens is Roger Hacham and okay, okay, the roster the roster I was talking the Booker rosters were the ones before Chris Paul got there Not the roster that went to the finals I'm saying I'm not saying you're wrong. This is a bad roster But players like Kevin Durant the expectation is even if you're not a leader your talent will supersede all the things that are wrong It's why I paid Kevin Durant Kevin Durant money. You can shake your head all you want to That's what supposed to happen When I'm here with the rent where you're at when I need to do that leaders overcome See people always over now.

I see I see more and more while Russell West was going to Because the all that shit you're saying owes it like that's that's that's Luna loo just just the last episode we were on I think what the Lakers the number two in the West and now Houston is number two So right now the sons are let again The sons are one game out of the 10th spot to be in the play and tournament so You started off with something that was deceiving you know, Ron or you know, Ron I know I'm only bringing up to say that the rankings and the list is just I said currently currently right now. I'm not They can get into the playoffs how much like you gotta know to do a play in and make a win in the playoffs as much faith as I got in Thank you. Thank you. So no Spike Next week they'll be in the playing tournament Just like I don't give a care about context with somebody shit As long as they get in it.

I mean Oh, yeah, I hope they do it with me. It's fine. They don't play in for these better make the playoffs That's what they're talking about. They better make the playoffs today.

I got to win the game. They got two games away They think you better show the way two games You know, he don't knock out the words He's gonna get his revenge. I got the word. He should have picked that tray for Miami.

He should have went to Miami for Jimmy Well, that's what would have been the best thing for us. Well, it's because if we if we get in the playoffs I don't think that we're easy out for anybody. Yeah, me too. I'm with you I think y'all I I mean All right, well, we'll be back Right after this quick break if you are a fan of hip hop and love unfiltered discussions on the culture check out dead in hip hop From album reviews to hip hop debates, Danny hip hop always keeps it real go to youtube.com slash Danny hip hop and search for dead in hip hop or DHH to subscribe now, Danny hip hop no politics.

No BS All right, we are back but without FIFO, so we will oh there he is We need to talk was was up next You were missing So what we'll do is we'll do this Talk about the bangles and then we'll close it out with your we need to talk so the system had a beagle's beagle's Okay, I would be because it goes into this Okay, all right appreciate you I'm sorry here. Um, no, we need to talk. Yeah Yeah, cuz it goes into this topic and it's on me Appreciate all right. So look we need to talk about the bangles in their front office aka Joe burrow Joe burrow laid out how they needed to pay everybody Including their two-star wide receivers t Higgins and jamar chase and defensive player the year Supposed to be defensive player the year trehendrickson So they got two out of the three deals that they gave both wide receivers four-year deals with t Higgins being two years The first two years being fully guaranteed of a jamar chase a four-year guaranteed contract Uh that makes him the highest paid Quarterback and I think that that just got he could but you know how to NFL do but uh Was it worth it?

The reason why I feel like we need to talk about this is because the bagels I'll be next said that you know, they always pay they quarterback and wide receivers I feel like they've always been relatively stidgy with anybody and this is the most money that I've seen them actually pay out because Contrary to popular belief chattel chiliscals never the highest pay wide receiver See j who's been zada was never pay the highest pay wide receiver Uh, and they never had a top three quarterback as much as I like Carson Palmer The bagels are going all in spike take notes. This is what all it looks like Hit jerry because I know you got about speed dial over there This is what all it looks like and it's still working on Trey Hendrickson. Now. Here's the thing I know I said last week that they need to draft a little bit better They need to develop a little bit better, but that that's what they need to do They need to breach her head jacks it back obviously they're gonna be cash-strapped But they need to draft better.

They need to develop better But we need to talk about their front office and this is what you do when you have a young signal caller that has showed you He's one of the best of the lead All right, well commentary we can reserve all that for this segment talking about this The move so the Cincinnati Bengals have agreed to a four-year comp to four-year contracts with To march ace and t Higgins chase and since the naddy reached a four-year $1,000 to $1,000 deal With 112 guaranteed while Higgins who was franchise tab on since nanny last month agreed to a four-year $1,000 to $50,000 contract with the first two years guarantee Well, the Bengals end up regretting spending a significant portion of their capital offense rather than defense Go ahead. It's Nick. It's Nick going first So I get to respond to people and get to go before Nick. Okay, cool.

Uh, this is idiot I don't know what people was talking about going all in if I have a quarterback like Joe borrow I don't need to hit it I can make a better receiver at number two and I don't have to pay him that much money You know how many good receivers come out in the draft every year Cooper cup was just up for free agency and I could have probably signed up for this And I was not to Higgins if I believe in Joe burrow and what I don't need to Higgins bro I don't give a fuck about him being mad about it either like you can pack your bags I'll trade you whatever it may be we can figure it out. You ain't gotta be on the team bro I do believe they should have paid you more chasing I do believe he got the correct money as far as the highest paid non-quarterback in the league I think Michael Parsons comes to pass that when he signs his contract But that destiny to hear in the weather So much has got the money to heat his serves because he is a true number one probably the second best receiver if not the first best receiver in the lead If I have Joe burrow I don't need I don't need Higgins bro Like he's that's that's like a feature on luxury car that I could have did without like I would even notice that I had He'd see like I don't give a fuck if I have you but not bro. So FIFA you calling me out saying this is what all it looks like it's not it's not what all it looks like all in looks like I'm going to spend that money on the defense that was 30 second in the league and couldn't stop anybody So now my hopes are my hopes are I can outscore everybody and why that's a cool plan If I got to Higgins and I got to march ace and I got your burrow We know that in how to NFL work They're different thing variables to go in every week as to where you won't be able to score points You have to be able to stop people on defense. You have to be able to stop the one 30 second in the one So I I know what it's like to have a team that can't stop runs Like I seen my team the last two years get slaughtered by green bayon of playoffs and all through the regular season Not having a run defense.

I know what that feels like as a fan to watch that That's the most disheartening thing. So yeah, like paying him was It's not it's not all in this is us thinking we're doing the right thing because we want our quarterback to be happy And it's not gonna work. It's gonna blow up in their face We're gonna hear Nick complaining about it mid-weight through the season once we get a football season The bingles are going to be nine and eight again because they don't have a defense bro, and it can't draft We've seen this this is a reason why I say this is all it is because only two years of a t-hig is deal is guaranteed So realistically does it make sense you move off a t-hig is that does that does make money I'm already committing the two years. You're not all in it But you already committing the two years if I'm all in I'm committing to the full ride of jamaa chase and joe burrow I don't give a fuck about t-higs.

He don't even matter in this situation You just a cog in the wheel bro. So for me to pay you and act like the two are major part of what we got going on That don't even make sense. That's like I don't even have a comparison But t-hig is doesn't even matter in what the bingles long-term plans should be They should be figuring out how to solve their defensive problems and until they do that t-hig is will not matter Y'all can't put up 40 points a week. That's impossible in NFL And dr.

Oh, you got something to say? I mean you you you want me to go before you speak? So you don't want to hate that? Smartest person in the room I just want to hear all that hate I'm sure you would like what I said.

I don't agree with half of what you said because you Know Like people tell me respectfully then you don't know football because When he was the highest recruiting of Joe burrow if I have Joe burrow t-hig is don't mean shit to me That's insane to say but go ahead. I See your point Lou. I mean it's a little creamy saying shit, but I see I get your point um Like I said in the group man Nick did a whole lot of talking about this ain't saving shit. Can I get it bro?

We are fucked up right now. I'm honest We fucked up but a lot of the shit they got us fucked up y'all just did and I'm telling you I'm telling you Nick give it three years. You're gonna be in the same position. We ain't y'all keep going to say shit Yeah, but he talked he made it seem like he played like bum fuck niggas and you mentioned takes a meal Take me on the empty empty years on that contract.

So I hope you'll bring that shit up because I'm using empty We paid 8k. We paid March on. We paid camp Jordan. We paid Demara Davis and had drew on the roster at the same time You can't pay everybody niggas and we kept pushing the can down role now.

We look now let's have a look That's that's just what happens. You hate every single body. You don't pay him like Philly is different People you mentioned I feel they're out loud because they paid me early, but you can't do it to where more than 50 percent of your damn cap spaces Go on to three plays Every number every number that y'all talking about is just wrong no be clear be clear Philly also drafted will so they were able to play people I'm sorry that he ain't drafted will Dallas ain't drafted will a lot of things don't draft will little did the bangles draft t against n chase What's on what's out of all of them? You tell me that you got one name was on offense who else who else besides him to know your Defense listen, you know, they say there we go Is the same thing you know, this is this is like we so used to not having shit But we got something we feel good like a nigga.

We ain't never had a chip before he did a bad one even though She's taking all his money like she bad. No, look at it. Oh, look at it. She's we've had We've had no one I receive before and number two I receive for that.

No, I'm not talking about talking about team people talking No, no, it's like y'all have not had a team that's really been talked about as like a contender until recently And so you got that you're high. You just like I just want to keep high as long as possible You're not thinking about all the repercussions come with this Again, first of all, I'm trying to answer both of you a little bit lu. Um, yes, we've we've had we draft well and why receivers We're at one of the underrated franchise that draft at where I received I know a lot of people talk about um What's another team that has a big right? But we're one of the best ones you go back to chat You go back to chat about the TJ was out you go back to a J green now You got t hiccans that you got your March.

Hey, you can kind of keep going back. You see you see the track record Doc real quick real quick homework assignment tell me the team that one super bowl from having to know what we're seeing It never happens. What's you mean? They just want to talk to you tomorrow to what I'm doing years You can look it up the teams that have the best You said never win the super bowl.

You just said AJ Brown wasn't the best receiving the lead He was either top five receiving the lead Yeah, how we'll go is that like I said jerry rice? I just said i was in 25 Two months ago, lu if you want to ask you when a super bowl Yeah So already asked your question. Do you receive this don't matter when it comes to super bowls bro? Okay, you would know so doc I would um What I'm trying to tell you as far as the difference between the saints and the bangles y'all kept going over the cap Y'all kept overcharging y'all credit card bill to where that guy was already in the name of y'all just paying on interest The bangles the bangles the bangles the bangles on it is because y'all still in the cap hell because of that the bank Let's hold on the bangles have only used 33% of their cap with these signings We still have to sign trays work still work on go for that at worst case scenario We're gonna be using 40% of the cap on four positions three on offense one on defense We still have 60% left of the cap that we will address free I just see it's still not over where we can still address that we still have the draft coming up And there could be other trades that are gonna be made again Like I said earlier when it went out when a lot of people were bitching about they the bangles are cheap They're not gonna pay nobody and now that we pay people now is that oh that was a bad decision That's my thing is that you can't have a both ways pick a side either with cheap Or we don't know what we're doing but you can't say that both because they're clearly are making moves to where joe Burrow went on a bunch of a media tour saying I need trays hinders inside I need chays we sign I need higgles We sign I need Mike the second we sign three out of the four the bangles are going like people say they're going all in on what joe Burrow quests now the expectations are now going to be all on joe world There's no excuses.

I didn't give him any excuses last year He's not getting excuses moving forward and when we're talking about paying these wide receivers people are saying you can't put that much money on That's out of all when you have clear holes on the defense and the offensive line can still be short up But if we're just talking about productions from the wide receivers last year They had the most receiving yards as a combo with 200 or 200 and 19 yards, which was better than Detroit Vegas and Seattle by over 350 yards and since 2021 the bangles are 31 and 6 When you have jamaa chase anti-higgans playing without chase or higgans playing at the same time They're not in twill so together as a trio as a triplet they win games They went to a super bowl the last team outside of canada city and new england in the AFC to go to a swivel Is the Cincinnati bangles with this trio? So I do believe last year the defense was ranked 25th. It looked worse But overall it was 25th in the NFL they are only going to be able to get better because they can't get much worse I I leave doubt the kids are realizing that's opposite very And and and we were only one to two games outside of playoffs one of those games was the patreon No, we should one and we should have one of those games against vultimor and pit and pitzburg It was insane that we gave up 40 plus points to pittsburgh, especially how we see how the pitzburg season and uh towards the last half that season So again, I don't expect them to be Uh, a number one seed next season, but they're definitely going to the playoffs and they should definitely make a deep run with this I am still great. I'm still I'm still waiting on the draft see what they do However, I think this is a great I think this is what It is surprised me because I didn't think they were gonna resign here because I thought they were gonna trade them But resigning him.

I'm fine with that keeping your talent, but I don't see how this is a bad thing You thought they were gonna trade him because you knew that was a better football move No, I was now now now you're caping as a fan and trying to say oh, this makes sense to me and it doesn't make sense It's not why receivers do not win super bowls. It's proven throughout history. Just It doesn't happen. We just didn't last you Also, you can't you can't be cheap and I know what you're doing So you're getting even cheap I'm just saying but they're not cheap with this.

Oh, that's what I'm saying like they're not cheap They're not cheap. They're my you think you think the equals won the super bowl because of the while receivers No, you were saying that having a top top like where I received was on your roster do not help you win the super bowl, right? That's what your whole argument was and I said, no, I was Don't win super bowls. You're trying to switch what I'm saying Well, I receive is don't win so well It was one of those because of their running back The equals on because of the defensive offensive line But they still had top five but they still but AJ Brown still may plays The Monteisti's still may place in that Super Bowl to help them win.

They had to put points on the board. They want to do shit That's super bowl. He said AJ is top up. He's top five.

Yeah So that's not I don't read them like it's a point. He's not Either way, it's argable, but my thing is we just see with the Super Bowls that can get set down too easily They did get shot at the table. Did they get shot down a subo loop? Exactly.

So what are you talking about? No, but that's not what This is the same one. Have a great game in that subo You were correct. You said the offensive line won the Super Bowl for them.

It wasn't the receivers But I also think there's a difference too. You know the conference that the Eagles came through compared to what y'all Have to go through like y'all are gonna be going score for score and like if y'all go and drive with that I got y'all play a decent defense. They keep y'all off the field. Y'all can't go score for score I gotta play Patty gotta play Josh gotta play Lamar And what was that ever issue for the Bengals in the playoffs when it comes to facing patty when it comes to facing jobs?

We didn't get a chance to face Lamar. We faced the Ravens But we didn't play Lamar in the playoffs But when does that ever happen? In the regular season, but when we come through the quarterbacks in the playoffs between Joe burrow Lamar Jackson Josh Island and petch my homes outside of patty patties in his own category Which one of those three quarterbacks do you trust one of the playoffs as a quarterback to leave the team to pass Either one of those teams that even face the Chiefs if not beat the Chiefs It's the Bengals Lamar's just a bit Lamar's just a bit. Josh has never been patty and the We already beat Josh out in the playoffs before Defense So that's my only thing To address something that may not have been clear about yes I agree that a J Brown is a piece and one of the top receivers My point is I don't need a divide taste smith or tj Higgins on the second number two if my quarterback is that good That's my whole point like yeah I can have this piece while receiving at jessin jefferson at a jj brown at What's your man's name right here number one?

What's the name? She wants a special argument I can have look I can have them at number one, but I don't need somebody that good at number two I would rather put that money into my defense and I think that's reasonable If we talking about real football and we have 60 percent of the cap and not more than that to address the defense What's they're gonna do and also on top of that? Why do we criticize one these are not these are not free agents that the banger just signed willy These are these are the players that they drafted anybody who drafts players like this wants to keep them now You can argue as far as they should have had the early they should they should have paid them earlier for cheaper and for less That's fine. That's a great.

That's about argument But keeping them nonetheless isn't that bad now? I expected them to trade tj Higgins because I didn't think they were going to spend the money to keep them and not address the defense But they're still well with under their cap and on top of that We want the best quarterbacks to play with the best players We've always wanted that it's one of my criticisms while the chiefs have us around it patty with some of the best talent to win And we see that happen a couple times in the playoffs Whereas like all right well patty had better a better ronzo or better players He probably could have won more as far as like recently So my thing is like so my thing is like this the same thing the same criticisms We have back in a day with a marjax and about the ray was not surrounded with talent The same criticism some people may even have right now with the buffal bales about not surrounded josh I don't want enough talent to overcome certain things the bangles are doing that Joe burles in his prime the numbers show it and his his pedigree when he's healthy in the playoff show it You might as well surround him with the best talent now My only concern now is addressing the defense where they still have money to spend and they still got a whole last draft They're dressed up Kim. What's going on Kim? One question I have And we can close this out is why didn't they pay them early?

That's not how they do They don't pay they don't pay they don't pay for a few years and with he Higgins Uh, they were I think they were really trying to wait out They were really trying to somewhat low ball jama chase to see if he would assign then then they would assign t But since those negotiations kept going on longer They were like we can't sign t before we saw chase because you know, that's the vocal word that money T as wise up and we're like nine they don't have the same representation as jama's i don't say any Yeah Was he Higgins getting Jamal chase And that was a you that was I think that was led by either jama or that was a I would say because it was like because jama said in the press conference. I wanted to I wanted to stay here. So he probably comes in my I said this when we when we signed city land like you do not pay receivers like this It just don't it don't work and it's not conducive to a championship bro As much as I hate Cowboys and Cowboys fans like I gave it to you for at least looking at your team and being like you made up decisions Yeah Became I said it when we came out here like when we signed city land when I like you do not pay receivers that That amount of money, bro. No, that's why it's really good.

He's really good, bro But if you talk about when a super bowl, it's not around well first of all First of all, they overpay on a nigga. You don't even believe at a quarterback position We're not talking about the same That was the whole basis of your argument you said with the quarterback like Joe burrow You know what you said with a quarterback like Joe burrow. I don't eat tea. You weren't even saying with a quarterback like Joe burrow He goes like a cop with a quarterback like that press guy here See land looks like a big a big asset because you need high talent to help elevate his production with Joe burrow If I have high pita and quarterback position and why receivers that means we're gonna have a high-powered office Which they had the only thing we need to worry about we're not even talking We're not even arguing about the offense.

We're arguing about the defense This is a great decision offensive leads to the issue The issue is what most people have is on the defensive side and also the offensive line So my thing is they're going to address that like they do every year They fired they fired they fired again. They're dressed because they fired the winner remote They got the guy from Notre Dame who can coach up young talent They got a new offensive line coach to coach up young talent and they're going to address this in the draft and free agency Still they still have a lot of catch space to do a lot of things a lot of people are A lot of people are trying to do this goddamn GM or armchair shit I think what the fuck they talking about wait till all this shit play out wait till the season start Can we do the same thing with the same thing? Because the same tire I'm not Oh Yeah I believe in a different time Name the five better than him. I want to hear that.

Okay. Yeah, CD. Okay, okay, taraoke is still top five Okay, what y'all think is a taraoke is steel top five. Yes, two or three.

All right And who's number five? I can put I'm on I can put I'm on my rod now. I'm gonna take brown net you can put on my rod same brown You know, I guess I can't take one thing you need to wash your hands because you keep pulling shit out your ass All right, let's move on can All right. Well, they will address the old line and the defense as they said The question is whether or not it'll work.

We will find out Uh, we'll be back right after this if you are a fan of gaming then you need to check out dead end gaming Dead end game brings you honest reviews the lariest moments and deep dives into the conversations take place in the industry No sugar coating just real gamers gaming check out dead end gaming at the world's most dangerous gaming crew on twitch or youtube Just look for dead end gaming atl. That's dead end gaming atl They're using tats to secure their lockdown corner back of grand to a three-year 90 million deal with daras stingley jr Including 63.5 mil in new guarantees a league source set monday The extension gives stingley the highest annual contract for a corner back in nfl history are the tatsas moving in the right direction after a somewhat disappointed season Yeah, i'm cool with that move, uh, you know, you always got to retake the players that uh perform that you draft Now the only thing I question about the texas this this offseason is getting ready to learn me tuzzles Uh, when i'm ready a question will online outside of him, but it turns out the defense Yeah, you you lock down with the best quarters in the league and the whole quote of the highest paid quarterback ever NFL history Next year that's gonna happen again. So it is what it is. So i don't take too much talking to that I think this isn't a bad move at all for the texas.

However, i'm worried they lit obviously lit. I think they lent stephan go Um, i'm more worried like people saying about their offensive line. I know dog dog house Uh punk ass wasn't posted he did all the post about all these free agent moves. They mentioned the bangles But he makes sure you mentioned this one.

Um, I think you need to worry about their offensive line But that's like again 25 of the teams who say the same thing My thing main thing is more about the offensive coordinator that they got they had they fired him and i replaced for cj We needed i think cj is This could be a coming up on watch segment can as far as Um, just because in that division Is not as They're they're the best team by default as we can say since they wanted last two years But if tennessee tennessee could do the same thing and draft the quarterback and have a great season And then we'll see something different as far as how the division plays out But the texas is only one 10 games last year. There was only one game above the bangles. Um, so it wasn't like it was a it was a Overall phenomenal season following up his great rookie season. Um, but i'm i'm Interested in seeing what other moves they are still going to make especially coming up in this drag because they Again, like everybody else.

They got to address the trenches, but this is this is a good move I mean you can't sing these are great. He was one of their top five picks So again, they re-sign the players that they draft but um, it's also more about looking forward like how are they gonna help cj Y'all agree singly's a great defensive player. So yes, we signed him This got more to do as nik alluded to with cj trial like he had a very mediocre or sophomore season and People after his freshman season were looking him like oh you can be the guy that can You you can cater to what we're bad at and you can supersede that because you're that good of a quarterback And I think the second season we didn't see that We saw somebody who was barely able to make up for the flaws of this team head So this sign it was good And I wonder what they're going to do in this upcoming season for cj trial to ensure that he continues to get better Because the texas ain't really invested in that and this is a weak division I don't expect the titans to coach or the jag was to be good They they don't have to do a lot to hold on but it seems like they ain't doing shit My thing is exactly it seems like they're somewhat complacent in a shitty division Which I guess is fine But like I said the texas could I mean the the titans could get camward and if camward clicks it starts any because member Lulash you're going into the season like the titans could be somewhat sneaky Some of the moves they were making and if you look at some of their games if their quarterback situation was any somewhat Competent they would want a lot more games at least over 500 So to me, it's like they could be and as we're seeing in the last few years Ricky quarterback to come in and just pick you to the playoffs out of nowhere for going from shit to shine So this is the absolute worst of visiting football. So if anything It's an NSC cell the Falcons the Saints and then Pampas and all this is worse than this Okay, you're right.

You remember right? But if the titans get into the quarterback, they will be able to compete with The Texans who are the best team in this and you can I don't know what the coach is doing. They they depend on pitching and to risk and like I don't understand what's going on there So this this is a dumpster fired a vision, but I do it with you. It's worse But all you need is one good move to win this division and the Texans are acting like since I got CZ shroud I'm good and I don't think that's the case I'm gonna coach.

I'm really trying to get like what's the wisdom somebody and T T log with jacks ago could come back T log and have But that's the question is thing really that good and I or did he just follow stats against the Lawrence against Lawrence they're good These He deserves what he got A crappy team His team just needs their quarterback that they paid a lot of money to win and well, excuse me They're going to pay a lot of money to and jacked it how to be better. That's what he needs. Excuse me Well, yeah, the Texas can win his division easily Like this shouldn't be a thing to them. I know what the competition in this division Jalen you got something to say?

Sorry came back. No really Yo division trust your team is traffic. I didn't say I didn't say what the I At least right should have been in the year Let's bet that we go we don't bet we don't bet This upcoming season which division has the most wins between these two You think the You think the AFC South can have more wins than the NFC South? Yes.

What about the books? What about it? The books? The books?

That's the matter all of those things. That's not saying much about business. All right, people are struggling over there. Let's see the worst of the weekend and the power rankings.

So you can get out and see. Yeah, people need to be sponsored by Newson. This is my project. Hey, this is the appreciate.

We appreciate your people. Yeah, man. Hey, get in there. Remember, trooper.

Who the hell is this? So funny. Yeah. Outside of my sighted situation, the worst thing that I said, the worst performance is the Joe Budded podcast played basketball.

Now, here's the thing. You know what I'm saying? I don't look too much different than Joe Budded's picture right there. But the difference between being Joe Budded, I was a basketball player once upon a talk.

So I can still go out there and have a couple of moves that you're like, oh, there, people still got a little something. I got a stab at it. Joe Budded, they got nothing. He got no handle.

He got no job shot. He got a lay on the hole. He don't have nothing. I don't know if y'all see the clip.

If you have it, go. It's viral on the internet. It is horrible. Joe Budded don't need to be played.

No basketball. And if he does, it doesn't need to be recorded. I don't want to put people theory to the test because I don't think I don't think he can even know like Joe Budded. But I don't know, bro.

I don't know. I would have been the same way, bro. Hang on. I wouldn't look like them names.

That was a crazy clip. I committed to putting that out. I would have been the same way, bro. I would have been the same way, bro.

I would have looked like them names. That was a crazy clip. I committed to putting that out. If we had did that as a group collectively with that in, and I looked like that, I would have asked, no, no, no, no, no.

I would have asked the couple like this. No, this is the younger. This is the prime example of why I'm doing Ramadan lit. I'm trying to eat right?

Stay in shape. Especially I got the hand. I'm trying to eat. But for the young, for the young cats out there, anybody who's under 40, take care of yourself.

You know what I'm saying? They say that what you do when you're 20, then you'll 30s. You pay 40, then you're 40s. Then you're 40s.

So take care of yourself. You already see the people and take care of them. So that's why he sneezing and shit like that. I don't know how to put the enemy beat on.

Joe was the, even though he looked like that, Joe was the one that was leading. He the one that had the most points they've seen though. It's team one. It looked terrible.

Yes. Leading the charge is crazy after that clip, bro. He didn't lead shit. That goes to how everybody else looked.

Then it's tears ACL. And they had to go see a doctor in California, bro. I can get him here and walk in booting everything like that. Power rankings.

I would never agree to playing basketball. That's the only sort of like this. I'm not running a race. I'm not playing basketball.

I ain't doing none of this shit. No, I know where I'm at. Alrighty. So this week with the power records, we're doing the best.

He's going to rank his top five signers. I need to. I am suffering right now, but the best three point shooters of all time before I get into the top five, I got a couple of honorable mentions. They delivered.

Dirk Navisky, Page of Story, Yocka, Vichy, Larry Bird, not in the top five, but obviously those are my honorable mentions at number five. I have the second most three pointers made all time. James Harden. He is.

He's crazy. Thank you. Well, I got James Harden. He's a little loaded that graphic and knew you weren't talking about him.

He's getting on purpose. It's like. Oh, shit. Alright.

At number four, I have Reggie Miller. Let's see. He's got to get the five. Just give your five.

Let's go up in the meeting. There we go. There we go. There we go.

There we go. At number three, I got Ray Allen. Career of 40% three point shooter. Number two, Clay Thompson.

Outside of stuff. We never see nobody get as hot as crazy as Clay Thompson. And at number one, the guy that Dick said cannot create his own shot. I said, I was curious to see if he could create his own shot.

Whatever it is. That is for history. The stuff he just recently passed over 4000 career three pointers, which is most all time out of the body's catching that. And if he stays at this clip in the next three seasons.

Yeah, which is James Harden. If he stays at this clip for the next three years, so he shouldn't be able to surpass 5000, which is probably never going to catch that, which is crazy because I think only him and John Stockton will be passed, which is steals a sister three point mix. So I've carried number one all time three points. You have James Harden number five.

Bro, look at his numbers. He said all time in three point makes. How's he that's high five? I mean, not have a Larry Bird.

It's surprising in my opinion, but you always have as many threes as I can tell. I'm talking about this. That would be the argument. You know, I'm just arguing.

It's that argument. It's that argument. It's that argument. It's that argument.

It's that argument. I mean, in the treatment era, I don't mean shit. I mean, he's like, he ain't shooting lead. He's talking about James Harden.

If we're talking, if we're going to shoot a straight, so more, I was the Michael Jackson. He's out five hours. I'm not. Super chest.

Super chest. They're going to the young nigga sit on me. I ain't got no offense to it. But you sound like one.

Yeah. It's in Calvro. I mean, now. Yeah, James Harden as a shoot now.

I don't know about that one. That five. Yeah. All right.

Super chats. We're going to start off with super and member chats and you know, you can send your super chats in or if you don't remember, you can send in the member chat as well. Rob Costa, Spike, Jerry is cooking fire. He got your top five running back.

Who is he talking about? I'll say that. He's talking about miles. He's talking about miles Sanders.

I think that's what I think the Cowboys are saying. Remember I'm sure he put the shit in here before I had to comment on this. I don't know what you're talking about. And I don't care.

It might be right because green beans. I think is a couple of fans who said I remember a few years ago, make it fun. Shelton for my center stop running back. Take all of your under wind up on my team.

Another trash here uploading. Shelton's. Yeah. Yeah.

The worst take that his running back when gotta be on there too. I don't care how you can text what lives. He was defending the right. He was I saw it.

Feel is wrong. He can frame how you want. Even if he heard somebody else say that he would not agree. He heard himself can and he still agree.

That says it all. Says it all. We the boys. I'm ready to under for the bingles wins total.

I love the hate. I love the hate. I love the hate. I love the hate.

I love the hate. You can catch up to punk ass dollars. I love the hate. Devontae bingles and confidence and scared commitment.

That's why. Okay. I guess probably when I asked why they waited so long to pay. And then the last one we have is better location for Rogers Steelers or Vikings.

See the Vikings are retired. The cops are based location. The Vikings are easily better organization right now than the Steelers. They just got DK Maycalf and what's my main name?

What's other receivers? And they're going to wreck off the E.D. You think that George Pickens and DK Maycalf is better than Justin and Jordan Addison? You're wild and smart.

You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right.

I forgot. What are you talking about? I was rooting for Tommy right there. Exactly.

You always do. I have to remind you reason. Every time we fight that way. I can't even fight again.

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