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EPISODE · Feb 16, 2026 · 29 MIN

When ‘Churches’ and ‘Church Leaders’ go

from The 12:2 Podcast · host Kevin Jordan and Bud Wrenn

In this week’s podcast, Kevin and Bud discuss the latest controversy surrounding Bethel Church (Redding CA) and pastor Bill Johnson.  Using the label of ‘prophecy’, what happens when church ‘leaders’ decide to twist others into doing something that satisfies their own salacious motives?  How do people discern and resist?  The guys also speak a bit to other similar – but perhaps lower profile - situations that they have seen in the church.

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